Graviphoton

Look, i don't know who you think you are trying to kid. I bet you don't even have any degree in physics, never mind working in the mainstream. I could talk about subjects that would be way over your head, but you treat me as if i am some knowledgless crack-pot wannabe. I am now glad, i am choosing to leave this place.

I am not going to spend any more time here, because i am being asked the impossible. Also, because a few here can be condescending but that's beside the point. Thanks, i've enjoyed my stay.

I don't know why this has been tagged as crackpot. I don't think its so woo woo. But no, i don't have anything to proove. I'll let the reader decide what they think of it. I just thought it was unfair i talked about a principle i have never spoke about before.

This is my theory, on self-reflecting organisms. Self-Reflection, in our cases, will depend heavily on the mathematical description [math][1(0,1)][/math]. Here's how the principle works. There is a level of awareness which allows an organism to be aware of itself, instead of being mindless in the sense of arbitrary acts on senses. The latter of course, describes a system that is run by their genes. Replicating, eating, sleeping, some not, organisms that go through life, day to day, in constant operation of their DNA. They have no awareness of themselves, only to have virtually, no intelligence, and striving on the basic needs. A human, or an elecphant, both valid cases for the next point, is that they can self-reflect, so that they know they exist. Its actually a three-way operation for self-reflection. There is first the unconscious self, the conscious self, (which as you may presume, may not necesserily require a being at any given moment in time to stop and think about themselves, and their situations), and generally, the ability to reflect. This relationship can be expressed as: [math][1(0,1)][/math] Where the square brackets containing the first 1, lets call it C, as conjoined with the pair zero and one. The pair in this case represent the functions of subconsciousness and consciousness... the solitude 1, or C as we called it, is in this case the abillity to self-reflect. The ability to self-reflect, might be what gives three specific animals in the world, Homosapians, Ape family and Elephant the nature of intelligence. Of course, intelligence is in every biosystem, but the three species we are talking about, exist way up their in cloud number nine. The argument, is that a mouse would barely achive [(0,1)] communication, but even some scientists doubt that a mouse even has a consciousness. There may be no way to settle this problem. But it does go to say, that the very fact we see such a difference between the way we operate systems and problem solve, is somewhat connected to our ability to stop and consider. Stop and consider. This is how i would define self-reflection. We stop and consider our positions, and where we are going. This reminds me of the strange situation that arises in the mind, that was posited by Dr Wolf. The uncertainty principle, even though it rules the subatomic behaviour in my head, we still don't need to operate by it. The mind is free of these quantum rules, and that's what makes it so strange. Self-reflection also has the outstanding evidence of phantom limb phenomena. If a patient, who has lost a leg, goes behind mirrors, reflecting what appears to his brain to be his leg, makes the patient feel the illusion he still as his limb. This has baffled our understanding of the brains rationality, and just prooves it isn't really all that rational. But we seep out of the irrationale, and bring rationality back to life. Order out of Chaos, and the ability to know.

Which do you need help on, because the books are obviously mainstream, the one citing 'is gravity an electrostatic force' is noted in a reference in a wiki page, the ball of light model should also be found on the net... help me out here.

Now whose being rude, you hypocritical GIRL. Wiki can be trusted however, even though it has been known to contain mistakes. But the references it contains of spacetime theories must be right. They are too bold to be a mistake. But that's not the point. I know they exist anyway. And if i say i got your sex wrong, all it means is that i called you a boy, rather than a girl. So what i said, you are reading far too much into. Period. Klaynos Yes, for a National Diploma.

I did. I gave you reading material which has been peer-reviewed. Others, published as books. They all contain the theory, apart from the one ''is gravity an electrostatic force?''

Any knowledge about the Chimp family, or bonobo, is of what i have read, and watched on wildlife programs. I have never worked directly with them. Why. Have you?

I apologize for getting your sex wrong. Hardly the end of the world. And, i am not avoiding the rules. I give my work pretty consistent i think, given the amount i post. Granted i cannot reference everything, but then i have already made this clear, that if anyone thinks they can, its a fantasy upon itself. We often go through life learning knowledge which we cannot state through a reference. As for my last post, you completely ignored the fact i gave a reference, and secondly, this reference is backed up by wiki, stating it does in fact have experimental conditions as a spacetime theory. Linde also shares the notion of what was said about consciousness having its own degrees of freedom. Kalynos Studying, physics, biology and chemistry. (now i need to go. Bath is run, and as i said, early night.) oh... Britain, Scotland.

I see a motivational and problem solving difference, at best. They cannot work systems, nor do they understand them with intelligent degree. Mice are simply not aware like humans are... if anything, its one of the lowest kinds of aware biosystems their are. Awareness, for me, again, is to self-refelct; know you exist, and not a mindless robot, which by the way, most animals are but mindless robots. They are driven on sense alone. We have developed past that stage... And yes... proving consciousness is easy. Do we all agree, we think, therefore we are?

Mooey Because you impatient boy, i had too to college when i read this. Learn to get some patience about you, because these questions posited, you will find, i am not obliged to answer. I will though, because i am not a total prat. Suffice to say, i've had a really long day, and i won't be able to address them tonight, because i am going for a soak, and then an early night. But here is someting added to my speculative theories of consciousness... (Done last night). "If consciousness is in fact defined (and different) at every moment of time, it should also be related to points in space: the truly subjective observer system should be related to space-time points." from "Quantum Theory and Time Asymmetry", Zeh (1979). Consciousness must have its own subrealm of freedom. Any freedom of reality is normally considered a dimension, by definition, is an intrinsic degree of freedom. Since we observe a three-dimensional realm, in apparently, a zero-dimensional condition, or holography, it stands to reason that they are dimensions sub of the normal four vectors of spacetime. The zero-dimensionality of their relations can be seen as an illusion, because there needs to be a mathematical and actual coupling which takes place between mind and matter. Amit Goswami, most renowned in his field, and author of a textbook on quantum physics which is used in academies across the world, knows of the fact there is a connection. He is author of the well known book, ‘’How Consciousness Creates Matter.’’ The world we see, even though it not really being the external world, somehow registers the events unfolding in the outside world, through a simple photon firing off the retina cell. This single event also activated numerous other events which centerfold the holograph that represents the reality we see. More physical processes are involved, at the microscopic level. When a photon (a particle of light) hits off the retina, changes occur inside of the cells. A molecule called the Cis-Retinal changes into a Trans-Retinal; it isn't a chemical change, but rather a change in the spatial structure of the molecule. This changes a protein that is already present in the cells of the retina, and this protein attaches itself to another protein, because of a chemical change in the original protein. More happens. Molecules are cut in half, which in turn causes electrical channels to become closed off; and this series of events causes an electrical imbalance, which is then transported through electrolyte and nerve activity to the brain. This is all quite amazing. This alone I think is proof that settles the dispute between whether a model of consciousness requires quantum mechanics that is non-classical or not, because of obviously in this case, considering that single photon, consciousness and the perception of it certainly requires that quantum non-classical method. The photon must collapse upon arrival, and is the cause of a singular information received by the brain.

Well, actually Kalynos, this is wha my theory entails. A self-reflecting things, can reflect on their own beings. This means being aware quite literally of their own reflections.

Terrible example of what i was implying. You see, even if string theory can answer everything, there is still no definate way we can make sure it is definately the correct representation of reality. It's like a theory that fudges its way into being a truth.

Yes, Elephants self-reflect, in your definition of the term, and reflect on their histories, because they can return to elephant graveyards, and even mourn. Just to clear something up though, self-reflection theory is my own terminology. Youw won't find anything on the net. Now, i must go for now. (By the way, one of the tests found that the elephant recognized when something was stuck to its head... and was amazed by it... playing with it... i can't remember what it was...) I'll look it out.

As for Dr. Wolf, i don't take everything he says as gospal. But i do believe him when he says that it is maintream that it is considered.

Dr Wolf.... sorry. There is the continued problem that you have to have some mechanism for the photons to strongly couple, which we don't have... As well as why protons don't decay, at all, ever... Well actually, we must assume these questions so very close to the beginning of time, when things are a little different. Through collisions in particle accelerators, scientists have been able to make matter out light, which is itself energy. We also know that at higher energies, the electromagnetic coupling gets stronger and stronger. This might answer for your queeries on the photons coupling. They could get into some kind of toroidal knot, oscillating with each other due to the wave function.

I'm not sure what you are doubting. Are you doubting that an electron and a positron when they come together give off photons? Yes, i know that process. That when you are adding all the energy. If i was told to represent the mass-energy equivalance to describe a positron, i would say it as E=-Mc^2. Its just a representation. Caps Yeh, i meant that. And that's the rub. We don't know if the two particles are not made up off what they give off. Dr Wold says in his book, ''Physicists are now sure that all forms of matter are just forms of trapped light.''

Oh trust me, it will find its way if its correct.

I give up. I gave proof, so that's me finished my session with you. Caps No idea. The question is why two electrons do give off two photons. And no, the original equation is correct.

''In less developed nations the exposure to magnetic fields is smaller yet the health of the population generally worse.'' Maybe that's the whole point. The less developed area's will have the least kind of medical attention, and also perhaps many area's are afflicted with disease and cholera. Maybe that's why health is poor. Not cables sending transmissions.

Yes, the photons make up the particle, just like the quarks makes up a particle. And no, its logical. Since we already have converted a into b, and b into a. The proofs there. See my post above.

Well excuse me for trying to make it fun... anyway.... an electron and an antielectron when the come together, release two photons [math](E=Mc^{2})+(E=-Mc^{2})=1022KeV[/math], which means that the mass has been reduced to two deadly gamma rays. Photons, atleast in my textbook, are considered a unit of energy... since we use the terminology that a photon can add to the energy of a system. So therefore, this is why i say ''photon energy''. Not photons that contain energy, because they are energy. If you mean, its an energy that has an energy, yes i suppose. And i say ''trapped photons'', because that's what they essentially are, electrons and positrons. We know this, because sceintists have been able to make such matter from photons. It answers for all tardyons, or bradyons, or whatever suites you, apart from those that have their own antipartner, but from what i know, i don't know of any. This theory only posits the existence of a ''family'' that consists of trapped photons. This is universally known.

The definition of consciousness is difficult, because we don't have any no.1 experience with a) Other human beings and b) Other creatures Because of this, it makes the definition of consciousness hazey, to say the least, but we can know a few things. We're not blind to the function of our spirit, so we can make a few educated assumptions about its definition of existence. Because of order of intelligence in eco systems, that includes us, being obviously at the top of the chain, we know that the level of consciousness depends on a fundamental rule i have noted before in my studies. The rule of self-reflection. We are self-reflecting beings. But that turns out to be one thing shared by three other known animals in the animal kingdom. The Dolphin, the Elephant and the Ape family. These animals have been tested with thoroughly, to suggest they know they exist, and reflect on their existence. This actually shows they are highly intelligent beings. But the intelligence, is ofcourse, limited next to the intelligence of the homosapian. So in conclusion, if we talk about the definition of consciousness, we must see them in different light to that of a mouse. To us, consciousness may encompass the notion of spirit and self. It defines awareness, and also awareness of self, so any creature that does not have these qualities, can't have the qualities we possess, and call ''conscious.''

Thank you for that, added instruction. I'll take it on board, but i can't promise anything. That just wouldn't be fair.

Niether of you understand the implications. First, Swanson, even without the references, this does not deserve to put as a speculation, or a psuedoscience. Follow this again, and i will cross my fingers. It might be a hit and miss, but we'll see. In 1997, scientists where able to make particles from pure light. We also know that from matter-antimatter collisions, the matter is reduced back into photon energy. This is the theory. It states that all matter that are tardyons, are but forms of trapped photon energy. Are you denying this, because this is modern physics. Klaynos Who cares about the name. It was intentionally called Luxon in this case, to make it more interesting. Its about additional knowledge you see... Not everyone will know that Bosons have an alternative name. Its fun and interesting. Stop being so dull.