Vishal

YOU need to experimentally verify it. Have you done that? You can't rely on what others tell you all the time. Specially not when the people who make the media are heavily incentivised not to tell you the truth and to mislead you. I never promised detailed diagrams ever. I have only started in my mission to prove to myself first that it is a viable option. I've already started with my own experimentation and till now I have not found any concept wrong. Try it out yourself first. Don't rely on what you think. As for friction. It is magnetic repulsion that causes it.

yeah. you got me guys. Bingo it is. simple magnetic phenomenon. Yes. So, I ask you what is wrong with taking that to the next level? Use bigger Neodymium Iron Boron magnets. a 3 cubic inch magnet has the force equivalent to 150kgs. We're not talking fridge magnets.

What claim? I asked a question.. I don't get it. Are you already starting from a premise of implied knowledge of the TRUTH about ZPE? Do you KNOW ZPE doesnt work? Or have you only taken what others have said at face value? The lab-coat told you that ZPE is for loonies and you listened to the lab-coat. How does give you credibility, or make you 'righter' than me?

look, I'm not 'claiming' anything. And I'm not really interested in convincing you or debating with you about anything. You are aproaching this all wrong. If you are really interested in checking this out then do it. else, let it be and make use of your energies elsewhere where they can do some good to mankind or yourself. If you need a exceedingly simple proof of concept of a perpetual motion machine that uses magnetic forces watch this video. And then start asking some smart questions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yrxl8hx9wcU

Firstly, you are wrong. There is one other "option", and that is to investigate it yourself (again, only if you are interested). Want to try that first before passing on the burden of proof so easily?

Save your cash. you'll need it. watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yrxl8hx9wcU Google is a really efficient internet search engine. I found some diagrams using google. Have you tried it? its great! give it a shot, ok?

Get your facts right. He was 'framed' as a fruitcake. He was not one. Thats the difference. He sold his patents to Westinghouse in good faith and to some extent it was reciprocated. However, when more and more people (including heavyweights like J.P. Morgan) started kicking up a stink they simply bagged Tesla. What would you do? If you had all the money and the power and had everything to lose if Telsa got through to the world, what would you do? you'd call you cronies at the local daily newspaper and get them to print a story about this crazy loony mad scientists playing with lightening..

I've already made up my mind and know which side I'm on. Its not responsibility to convince you. Thats your problem. If you are really interested you could build yourself one for about 50 bucks and a trip to Radio Shack. ask me for diagrams when you're motivated to make that trip. This is what gets to me. Why is it that the burden of proof defaults on to me?? go ask your own questions if you're motivated enought to do so. If not then chill out in front of the idiot box and eat a bag of chips. Its cool with me.

No they can't and no they aren't. Do you think the oil conglomorates and cartels will let you commercialise a free energy system anytime soon? I guess you;ve not read up on the unsolved disappearances of hobbyists and garage inventors who felt motivated enough to share their stories with the world. No, they can't and no they aren't. Do you think the oil conglomorates and cartels will let you commercialise a free energy system anytime soon? I guess you;ve not read up on the unsolved disappearances of hobbyists and garage inventors who felt motivated enough to share their stories with the world.

The truth is that ZPE machines have been built. Discrediting it on the pretext of lacking scientific corroboration is weak. Have we asked our own questions? Or are we relying instead on some official looking dude in a lab coat talking on TV sounding like he was picked from the cast of Grey's Anatomy? We know the reson why no scientific reveiw will acknowledge the phenomenon. Because doing so would mean that science itself runs the risk of being discredited. How can we have 'over unity'? How can we defy the laws of thermodynamics? oh my.. can't do THAT!! There is no shortage of documentaries on the internet. It does not matter how sceptical you are, just try to dig a little deeper and it will open your eyes. Yes there is a whole heap of stuff out there that is nonsense but to a keen AND intelligent enquirer its not impossible to find stuff that rings true. If not anything else it will get you interested. There is a reason we don't hear to much about zero point energy and its manifestation. The powers that be have KEPT it quiet. The media is completely subject to the economic might of a few individuals with vested interests in the energy sector. And this has been going on for a really long time. Think a hundred years at least. A perfect example of this targetted vilification is that of Nicola Tesla, arguably the most important human being to have walked this earth. Many of his inventions that have led to quantum leaps in technological development and progress are, to this day, attributed to others. How could we sit back and let this happen? Are we completely dispossessed? Are we so devoid of empathy for mankind in general? Do we not care enough to be motivated and ask these important questions? Nope.. Britney's undies (or lack of them) are much more fun..or maybe a game of Call of Duty 4.. nah..... how about lets hit the drive through and do burnouts in the parking lot??

I pose a simple question to all. My question is this: Why are we not using Zero Point energy? I say 'using' because A) it certainly exists (proof: casimir effect) and B) it can be tapped (hundreds of over unity machines built and functioning out there). Put rather simply, we have the potential to save mankind from almost certain extinction. Why are we PRETENDING it does not exist?

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Hi. This will seem quite silly to the erudite crowd but please read through. What if Mathematics is not the appropriate language to discover the true nature of the world we observe? It seems evident that current theories reliant on classical math are hitting up agains a barrier of "unity" and are unable to proceed further. I suspect this is because classical math is fundamentally binary in nature. It was developed to describe the world at a visual, observable scale and it did so with extraordinary success. However, what if a non-binary or non-discrete method is developed to cope with the probelm? An analog-math as opposed to a binary-math perhaps. A system akin to an analog wave with smooth increases and decreases. A system that relies on the spiral-geometry rather than linear algebra. Furthermore, What if we have reached a very real barrier in our scope of understanding? What if we MUST accept things "a posteriori" rather than "a priori"? The planck's constant is immeasurably small. Yet we try to describe the nature of matter/energy at that scale. It seems obvious to me that we will forever then be lost chasing our own tail. We should rather be understanding "what we can do with zero point energy", rather than bickering amoungst ourselves about "why we can't transalate it into our language". The potential benefit to mankind by studying and exploring the workings of the Hutchison effect and zero point energy clearly outweigh the need to describe it according to traditionally accepted theories. It is almost like the current Einsteinian science has transcended science itself and become a belief system. A religion almost. I would love to hear what you have to say.