AzurePhoenix

Economic Left/Right: -3.13 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.51

no, it's not a magic box, you just put your drinks in the box, pour pre-frozen ice over them, close the frickin' box, and get movin'. The cooler just keeps them cold for a period of time, ranging from several hours to a day or so, depending on brand and quality. They are not electrical devices or machines of any kind. They're just boxes with insulation. Like a thermos.

I'm not arguing Your friend's suggestion is equally valid, and considering what she does, holds just as much credence as the suggestions of my friend's. I just meant to point out a different potential view.

Damn, we'v been found out!! And by a virgin no less!

Yeah, birds are very high energy. Many (most???) have body temps over a hundred degrees. My Lovebird's is 106 (F)

Sorry, I was being sarcastic and angry, and meant that for someone like him, the whole point is the sex itself. (I should use more appropriate smilies to express my actual intent) Edit--- now that I think about it, it seems to be more about the power for huang, the control and the ability to say, "I was her first."

Hey. Don't trash the entire U.S. Only about half of us have traded up for hedonism. The rest just don't have cable yet. (besides, how can you argue with something that has such a cute euphanism as "canoodling") Beyond that, what does your tirade have to do with us arguing against this guy's desire to seduce a young girl so that he might be able to score a mint condition toy?

I've considered it, but Handey speaks to me more

True, in the wild they don't eat those things much, so on one hand it's best to not get them used to foods they won't be able to find once they're wingin' free, but on the other, such foods help to provide a wider variety of nutrients they might not get from seed alone. (plus, just like us, what each individual pigeon likes varies a bit; I do remember one a few months back that simply went nuts for blackberries) Edit: ignore my ranting above

both male and female pigeons, for the first two or three weeks of parenthood, have glands in their crops that secrete a milk-like fluid. Very nutritious in comparison to basic baby birdie diets. I forget what the chemical make-up is supposed to be.

Interesting... why doesn't your freind want her to use bread? Apparently our facility doesn't have any problems with it when we've got pigeons and doves, at least for the ones we can't feed by way of syringe.

hmmm, the set up sounds perfect, as does your oat-mush. I wouldn't even worry about bread, just slowly increase the amount of oatmeal you give (if you've got any on hand, you might want to periodically switch out the cottage cheese with finely smashed fruits). Oh, how often are you feeding him, and about how much does he eat at a serving? That would be helpful info for my source.

Sweaty romp... interchangeable with the following words and phrases.... canoodling.... hard snuggling.... banging.... hitting the headboard.... shagging.... and the ever popular (and already mentioned) SEX

An important non-food thing is try to keep it out of areas where it could be exposed to a draft, and try to provide soft blankets or handtowels, but balled up in a corner of wherever you have him. (eighty-ish degrees is optimal.) You said it was near fledgeling, so seed should be fine; I don't think there's a problem with cottage cheese, but you should also offer lightly soaked bread for hydration. (Wild pigeons stop producing the milk after only two weeks, so yours should have been "weaned" by now)

Best guess? Between five and ten bucks, depending on the brand you purchase. (Plus the price of good ol' gas station ice)

Ice Chest or Cooler, both are equally valid. Expensive ones can run a pretty hefty (hence expensive) price, but you can get decent ones for a few bucks. It depends on what you plan on carrying. A few sodas and a sandwhich? A headless corpse?

I work at a wildlife rehab center. We don't get many pigeons, but I'll see if I can't find any additional info to supplement radiohead's.

Not if parents were allowed to put shock collars on their kids - possibly the kind that are set off by straying past certain borders, just set them to operate at the desired times. I've always supported that.

What the Hell does it matter? Does it in anyway degrade them? Make them less funny, or pretty, or smart, or scented-in-whatever-fashion-that-may-or-may-not-turn-you-on? And trust me, if your looking for some fulfilling experience, you'd prefer a girl who got a lot of action. And while you are "cultivating" these girls for romance, what's to stop them from picking up experience? Over the course of three years + (on the unlikely chance they don't think you're dating them) they're going to want to date, amny are going to want to have sex. And from what I can discern, it would seem far more likely that many would assume you were actually dating them, and thereby, would eventually pressure you for sex. All the girls I ever met who dated substantially older guys were eager for a sweaty romp.

But throughout that period of friendship, she ain't aloud to date?

Difference is, this minority will one day grow out of their minority-hood. Point is, they're kids, they're stupid, they have to be told what to do. It's just like the leash law; it's there to protect people from dogs, as well as protect unsupervised dogs from harm. Edit: Sorry, misread your meanign of "minority" (I'm working on overdrive right now) My thing, is that no matter wha the initial intention (oppress that said minority that commits crimes) it still works to protect other kids, even giving them a slightly better chance of actually reaching adulthood (I know, a dramatic comparison, but even if the curfew saves just one kid, its certainly worth it to him or her, whether or not they ever know it)

So you admit that by dating a fifteen year old you'd be dating a child?

Ah, but they are adults with at least marginal life experience. Under sixteen, you're still the primary responsibilty of your parents, and normally can't tell the difference between a major life experience and a particularly nasty sneeze. If I decide to go out at night to wander the streets (a hypothetical thought, because where I live is more a supersuburb rather than a city, of course, you have just as good a chance of being raped in a park as in a back-alley) I as a legal adult am deemed by society as being capable of making my own decisions, whether or not I deserve it. If I get killed or raped, it's my own fault, but if it happens to a kid, the blame suddenly falls onto the parent's, and the local government.

Thanx, we yanks don't know nothin' 'bout thems cultural goin's-ons.

my opinon? It's simply stupid to trade one life for the freedom of many potential killers who would then go on to possibly aid in bringing about the deaths of many..