north

movement creates time if time allows movement , then what is it about time that can block any physical movement by any physical object of any kind ?

how so ? how does time " allow " movement ?

It seems a hop , skip and a jump but the basis of time never changes that is that time is based on the movement of objects , in this case electrons Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged exactly just movement , just movement nothing more , nothing less

because it seems that the pervasive thinking is that time is some sort of physical entity in and of its self that has some influence on the behaviour of things . time doesn't but some people seem to think so why not discuss this subject in depth to clarify this attitude about time once and for all

well thats informative:confused: care to clearify:D

abstractly , mathematically only

NO what is the essence of time to you ?

and thats my point time helps us to understand the Universe but in no way does time influence entropy , in and of its self

I'll take a chance and say that quantum gravity is about gluons if it is true that the further away quarks get from another the stronger the attraction between them is , then why are not gluons considered the essence of quantum gravity ? Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged well why not people ?

time is the measurement( mathematical ) of the movement of an object(s) , nothing more time has No intrinstic physical properties associated to it and/or unto its self , and never will therefore , time in and of its self , cannot speed up or slow down any interaction(s) between objects and within any object Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedcan anyone argue that time is beyond a mathematical concept , in the sense that time actually has any physical influence on any physical object ? Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedconvince me , I'm open to any theory that can prove me wrong

both space and time are linked because we are after the understanding of the movement of things yet at the sametime neither has any influence on the outcome of the movement of things

I watched the video he talks about filaments sounds like Cosmic Plasmas Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedwhen you watch this video you can the thousands upon thousands of filaments and their interactions with each other , Cosmic Plasmas in action Cosmic Plasmas has been proven which is the basis of Hannes Alfven theory Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedwow this video should change some minds and thinking upon the Universe for good

really how so ? take away any matter/points/ whatever in it ? what then is geometry based on ? nothing but theory yet gravity is yet to be defined and yet neither space or time has any proven properties associated with them , do they ? they don't and how is this confinement achieved ?

unfortunately that is just blather well lets try to define both space=room time= the measurement of movement of any kind . time is not a property of energy/matter but consequence of movement nothing more nothing less why not indeed if space has no matter in it what then is time based on though ? or you can look at matter being at a lower energy state than energy its self Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged does space have any , unto its self , any fundamental properties associated to space ? that can influence any energy/matter object ? no does time unto its self have any properties that can influence energy/matter ? no does the introduction of time , unto its self change the speed of an object in either a positive or negative direction ? no

neither space nor time created matter but space allows matter ( or really energy ) to manifest ( time is irrelevent )

fundamentally it is the understanding of the micro

[Originally Posted by north] movement is the basis of the law not time you can't imagine no objects at all in space where then in the absence of any objects in space does the measurement of time come from ? reason Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged I disagree motion or movement ,as I perfer , is expressed in space and time but the essence of the motion or movement is always about the object(s) involved always

movement is the basis of the law not time if time happens to be, the basis of the law then this law is based on an observer meaning ?

Mr Skeptic I noticed that the rest of post # 53 was not included how convenient

yes thank-goodness (geeze guy you me worried there for a time)

so this god is fleeting... that is down right dangerous for us all

not really refer to post # 53

the complete and absolute opposite of nothing

absolutely NOT god(s) the division of Humanity into seperate groups and therefore the ultimate down fall of Humanity for within each group they think they are closer to god than any other group and will kill in the end another Human being because of this

[Originally Posted by north me myself and I actually your wrong from my dictionary nothing > 1) NOT anything ; not something ; naught 2) NO part, piece , or element from Funk & Wagnalls standard College Dictionary Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged Martin you may not like the discussion of nothing personaly but to bad because it comes up all the time so we must deal with it , like it or not north