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And still we have no evidence yet of any life at all [even the most fundamental life] let alone any so called contact. I doubt it. I suggest Carl Sagan's extraordinary evidence will still be out of reach. That "MAY" hold for any intelligent life well beyond the solar system, but we can reliabley conclude that there is no intelligent life forms within our solar system...perhaps maybe some fundamental microscopic life forms within the Oceans of the moon Europa, or the plumes from the moon Enceledus, or even Titan. I don't think so...perhaps among the fanatically religious type [like that nut in the movie "Contact"] but while certainly being awesome news and revelations, I see such contact as more beneficial to the human race as a whole and then gradual acceptance to the fact that we are not alone....

Nup...we don't know why the BB banged and why it resulted in the evolution of space and time as we know them. Or perhaps you alone have a validated QGT? The crux of the matter is simply that it has been shown time and time and time again, that GR works and matches what we observe. That includes the evolution and expansion of space/time/universe and gravitational radiation from colliding BH's.

The Universe is a huge mind boggling expanse. Even the discovery of the most basic of Alien life form/s, will prove to be awesome Earth shattering news. As mentioned earlier, time and distance are the two forminable barriers inhibiting contact between Intelliegnt species.

Good obviously sensible point, which I have never really thought about. Thanks.

Agreed in the majority of cases, but still a small percentage of sightings remain at this time, unexplained. It will certainly need some huge advances in our knowledge and capabilities as a species to be feasible. But maybe achievable if we can survive as a species long enough. Yes, most are just that...throw in also mass hysteria, hallucinations, weather phenomena, or light trickery [refraction/reflection/mirages etc. "Extraordinary claims, require extraordinary evidence" as Carl Sagan said. I do though certainly believe that in the course of time, Alien life of one form or another, will be validated/found.

Probably because a BH occurs in spacetime, while the BB was the evolution of spacetime, in an expansion mode [as we know it] from an unknown state. A not so subtle difference which I see as important. Planck units or the Planck scale....... Wiki says it better then I ever could....... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_units#Planck_scale

Most Cosmologists/Physicists reject the singularity as defined by infinite density and infinite spacetime curvature. The only singularity is that as defined by the failure of GR and our laws of physics. While it is certainly true that we can never by definition see inside the EH of a BH, observations of the behavior of orbiting matter and accretion disks, lead us to the belief that "gravitationally completely collapsed objects", henceforth known as BH's are the only way to explain such behavior, and as they are also a prediction of GR, plus being supported by the discovery of gravitational radiation, not to mention the image as phoyographed by the "Evet Horizon telescope" the GR BH model can be reasonably accepted. Well once the balance of radiative forces and gravitational forces cease, gravity takes over, period...and as mentioned before, once the Schwarzchild radius/limit is reached, further collapse as dictated by GR, is compulsory...at least up to the quantum/Planck region where GR and all known physical laws fail us. [see post In essence we can reasonably accept that BH's are essentially just curved spacetime [ignoring in-pouring matter/energy] with a possible surface of sorts, at or below the quantum/Planck level. A validated QGT may in time, reveal more and desirably, explain BH's more realistically without any need for singularities of an infinite dense and curved nature.

OK, my shot at this, based on much reputable material that I have read, and my understanding thereof. As matter collapses, it reaches a point [radius] we call the Schwarzchild radius/limit at which further collapse is compulsory. That coincides with what we know as the EH of a BH, all according to GR. The collapse continues until it reaches the quantum/Planck level, at which GR and our known laws of physics fail us. During this process, all matter is broken down into its most fundamental parts. The question from this point of reaching the quantum/Planck level, is whether such collapse continues to a singularity point of infinite density and spacetime curvature. This is generally rejected by most physicists and cosmologists for obvious reasons. Which leaves us with matter in some form or other, residing at or just below the quantum/Planck level...a surface of sorts if you will, which is still called a singularity as defined by where GR and our laws of physics fail us. Consequently the exact nature of what resides there is unknown.

The issue that I see the most obvious, brought about by the silly all inclusive nature of your statements, is that you have some sort of extreme political agenda.

Certainly time and distance are the two great barriers making interplanetary contact difficult, but not impossible.

I'm with an advanced civilisation from another planetary system. Perhaps the "human resemblance" evolutionary process, is simply the most favoured to reach advanced intelligence and associated abilities. What I mean is that while an Octupus is obviously "intelligent" it is still confined somewhat by its evolutionary path. I pick a civilisation from another planet simly because of the "near infinite" extent and content of our universe, and the stuff of life being everywhere we look.

The "method in my madness" in posting this in the other thread, was that it seemingly did involve some alternative power sources discussions. Good questions and yes, they need to be answered. Actually until I discovered the article, I was unaware of this methodology.

https://phys.org/news/2021-06-hubble-space-telescope-science-halted.html Computer trouble hits Hubble Space Telescope, science halted: The Hubble Space Telescope has been hit with computer trouble, with all astronomical viewing halted, NASA said Wednesday. The orbiting observatory has been idle since Sunday when a 1980s-era computer that controls the science instruments shut down, possibly because of a bad memory board. Flight controllers at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland tried to restart the computer Monday, but the same thing happened. They're now trying to switch to a backup memory unit. If that works, the telescope will be tested for a day, before the science instruments are turned back on and observations can resume. For now, the cameras and other instruments are in a so-called safe mode. more at link....................

https://phys.org/news/2021-06-seed-black-hole-dark-halo.html Study points to a seed black hole produced by a dark matter halo collapse Supermassive black holes, or SMBHs, are black holes with masses that are several million to billion times the mass of our sun. The Milky Way hosts an SMBH with mass a few million times the solar mass. Surprisingly, astrophysical observations show that SMBHs already existed when the universe was very young. For example, a billion solar mass black holes are found when the universe was just 6% of its current age, 13.7 billion years. How do these SMBHs in the early universe originate? A team led by a theoretical physicist at the University of California, Riverside, has come up with an explanation: A massive seed black hole that the collapse of a dark matter halo could produce. Dark matter halo is the halo of invisible matter surrounding a galaxy or a cluster of galaxies. Although dark matter has never been detected in laboratories, physicists remain confident this mysterious matter that makes up 85% of the universe's matter exists. Were the visible matter of a galaxy not embedded in a dark matter halo, this matter would fly apart. more at link.................... the paper: https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/2041-8213/ac04b0 Seeding Supermassive Black Holes with Self-interacting Dark Matter: A Unified Scenario with Baryons: Abstract: Observations show that supermassive black holes (SMBHs) with a mass of ~109 M⊙ exist when the universe is just 6% of its current age. We propose a scenario where a self-interacting dark matter halo experiences gravothermal instability and its central region collapses into a seed black hole. The presence of baryons in protogalaxies could significantly accelerate the gravothermal evolution of the halo and shorten collapse timescales. The central halo could dissipate its angular momentum remnant via viscosity induced by the self-interactions. The host halo must be on high tails of density fluctuations, implying that high-z SMBHs are expected to be rare in this scenario. We further derive conditions for triggering general relativistic instability of the collapsed region. Our results indicate that self-interacting dark matter can provide a unified explanation for diverse dark matter distributions in galaxies today and the origin of SMBHs at redshifts z ~ 6–7.

Here's another.....https://newatlas.com/energy/seaborg-floating-nuclear-reactor-barge/ Copenhagen startup Seaborg Technologies has raised an eight-figure sum of Euros to start building a fascinating new type of cheap, portable, flexible and super-safe nuclear reactor. The size of a shipping container, these Compact Molten Salt Reactors will be rapidly mass-manufactured in their thousands, then placed on floating barges to be deployed worldwide – on timelines that will smash paradigms in the energy industry. Like other molten salt reactors, which have been around since the 1950s, they're designed to minimize the consequences of accidents, with a pair of very neat passive safety measures the company claims can greatly change the safety equation at the heart of any nuclear power investment. Firstly, they use nuclear fuel that's mixed into fluoride salts. The combination is liquid above 500 °C (932 °F), allowing it to flow through the reactor, which operates at near-atmospheric pressures. This liquid salt functions as a coolant for the nuclear fuel, replacing the high-pressure water cooling in older reactor designs. But if this fuel is exposed to air, instead of venting explosively as steam, it acts like lava and solidifies into rock. Yes, the rock is radioactive, and you shouldn't go have a picnic on it, but it's not a cloud of radioactive gas that can blow across the continent; it's solid rock that can be cleaned up by safety teams with Geiger counters. It also has very low solubility in water, so it's comparatively safe even if it falls into the sea. Source: Seaborg Technologies via IEEE Spectrum, Thomas Thor Associates and Switch 2020 more at link....................... Comments?

Bingo!! Father George Lamaitre, Belgian Jesuit priest, known as the father of the BB.

Where do politicians come from? Where do priests come from? Where do moderators come from?

Religion is based on myth first created by ancient man to explain the wonders of the universe around him/her. Science is a discipline that seeks to explain what we see, based on available observational and experimental evidence. We have absolutely no evidence for anything existing that maybe labelled a soul. In fact the supernatural/spiritual nature of such a myth is unscientific at best.

Many possibilities exist. But like I said, I'n not campaigning for fusion reactors, I don't know enough about them, simply rehashing a news item, with emphasis actually on the largest magnet in the world.

Particularly in Australia, being among the top coal pruducing nations. Nice overall informative post, thanks. Commenting on the above though, the first highlighted sentence while true with regards to "lots of potential clean energy" don't they also present there own problems, space for example, with regards to solar power.....The second sentence would probably be true at the beginnings of such endeavours, but costs would also of course diminish and come down as technology improves, after getting these things up and running. Not forgetting the biggest advantage of fusion reactors in that the supply of fuel is abundant and accesible. Bingo, as I should have realized from the article itself, where it says, "The risk of accidents with a fusion plant is very limited—if containment is lost, the fusion reaction simply stops." In summing, I'm not "promoting" fusion reactors as such, as the be all and end all of future clean power sources above any other alternative source. It is only one source with inherent advantages and disadvanatges.

https://phys.org/news/2021-06-world-powerful-magnet-ready-ship.html World's most powerful magnet ready to ship: After a decade of design and fabrication, General Atomics is ready to ship the first module of the Central Solenoid, the world's most powerful magnet. It will become a central component of ITER, a machine that replicates the fusion power of the sun. ITER is being built in southern France by 35 partner countries. ITER's mission is to prove energy from hydrogen fusion can be created and controlled on earth. Fusion energy is carbon-free, safe and economic. The materials to power society with hydrogen fusion for millions of years are readily abundant. Despite the challenges of Covid-19, ITER is almost 75 percent built. For the past 15 months, massive first-of-a-kind components have begun to arrive in France from three continents. When assembled together, they will make up the ITER Tokamak, a "sun on earth" to demonstrate fusion at industrial scale. ITER is a collaboration of 35 partner countries: the European Union (plus the United Kingdom and Switzerland), China, India, Japan, Korea, Russia and the United States. Most of ITER's funding is in the form of contributed components. This arrangement drives companies like General Atomics to expand their expertise in the futuristic technologies needed for fusion. The Central Solenoid, the largest of ITER's magnets, will be made up of six modules. It is one of the largest of the U.S. contributions to ITER. Fully assembled, it will be 18 meters (59 feet) tall and 4.25 meters (14 feet) wide, and will weigh a thousand tons. It will induce a powerful current in the ITER plasma, helping to shape and control the fusion reaction during long pulses. It is sometimes called the "beating heart" of the ITER machine. How powerful is the Central Solenoid? Its magnetic force is strong enough to lift an aircraft carrier 2 meters (6 feet) into the air. At its core, it will reach a magnetic field strength of 13 Tesla, about 280,000 times stronger than the earth's magnetic field. The support structures for the Central Solenoid will have to withstand forces equal to twice the thrust of a space shuttle lift-off. more at link....................... https://www.iter.org/ ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: OK, my understanding of nuclear fusion power is of course, that methodology that powers stars, or nuclear fusion. The ongoing problem with creating that on Earth, is containing the extremely hot plasma, and the only method of doing this is magnetic containment. While the advantages of fusion power is known and are many, what would be the greatest danger of a nuclear fusion reactor? Could the magnetic containment apparatus fail?

Not really, just thought a totally knowledgable approach to this was required in lieu of your apparent fascination/obsession with it. Like I said, much of it unexplained at this time, but just as unidentified in relation to UFO/UAP's does not equal to Alien origin, so to unexplained does not equate to spiritual or supernatural origin.

There eyesight is rather poor, but there hearing and sense of smell is extraordinary and certainly make up for any disadvanatge.

Something to brighten your day/night.... And without doubt the biggest toppest sellingest singing group from the fifities.......

https://phys.org/news/2021-06-robot-chemist-insight-life.html Robot chemist offers insight into the origins of life: A robotic 'evolution machine' capable of exploring the generational development of chemical mixtures over long periods of time could help cast new light on the origins of life, scientists say. team of chemists from the University of Glasgow developed the robot, which uses a machine-learning algorithm to make decisions about which chemicals from a selection of 18 to combine in a reactor, and how to set conditions under which the reaction occurs. The robot is capable of running the experiments on its own, with minimal human supervision. The process aims to provide new insight into how Earth's complex organic life developed from its simple, non-living chemical origins by allowing the machine to run experiments over the course of several weeks. Measuring the mass index of the product of each experiment teaches the robot something new about the complexity of molecule produced by each reaction. That information helps it learn how to vary the experiment to create a more complex molecule in subsequent reactions—a digital version, the team hopes, of the natural selection for complexity which gave rise to organic life. moe at link................ the paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-23828-z A robotic prebiotic chemist probes long term reactions of complexifying mixtures: Abstract: To experimentally test hypotheses about the emergence of living systems from abiotic chemistry, researchers need to be able to run intelligent, automated, and long-term experiments to explore chemical space. Here we report a robotic prebiotic chemist equipped with an automatic sensor system designed for long-term chemical experiments exploring unconstrained multicomponent reactions, which can run autonomously over long periods. The system collects mass spectrometry data from over 10 experiments, with 60 to 150 algorithmically controlled cycles per experiment, running continuously for over 4 weeks. We show that the robot can discover the production of high complexity molecules from simple precursors, as well as deal with the vast amount of data produced by a recursive and unconstrained experiment. This approach represents what we believe to be a necessary step towards the design of new types of Origin of Life experiments that allow testable hypotheses for the emergence of life from prebiotic chemistry.