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I agree with transformer robot, terraforming a near by planet such as mars may become a necessity, the population is increasing at an extremely fast rate, what we should do is expand into the desert parts of the globe, possibly go forward with the solar panel belt on the moon which will meet global demand, our government here in England has said we will run out of oil by 2030-40 and is investing heavily in natural energy, with the recession on everywhere I doubt we can meet demand before we run out as we don't expect to turn a profit until 2022, but I think natural energy should be the main focus of or government If we can create a way to inhabit mars i'm sure we would be more than capable of sending people there

I always got told the moon was very important and when it drifts away it will cause a wobble, guess you can't believe everything your told

Not at all, obviously we don't know to much about the wobble but without our moon the earth would wobble, if mars' moons aren't big enough or close enough to counteract the wobble then that could be the cause

I'm a tad drunk now but I believe the mars rover has just woken up, it's task is to measure the wobble if mars to experiment with terraforming mars, a wobble is a big problem, or moon does a lot to help with our planet, mars may be a problem if the wobble is too severe

Okay, so I tried to google what would eventually happen to a neutron star and nothing showed up, so i'm gathering either no one knows or we think that it will remain a neutron star, I thought that they may become pulsars but I don't know what happens to the others, some people say they become invisible but does anyone know why this is?

So according to the book, the author would seem to believe that objects actually do end up falling into the event horizon?

No I meant categories and I meant models, that is why they are the words I chose I'm sorry I've just re-release over a book now, in a part it says 600 theories and in another part he states that there are ten 10 to the power of 500 he says each one is distinct in there own way, which can't be true, he says ask the string theories fit into 6 groups, some places say there are four, others say five, then others say there are five with a new emerging string theory, Anyway i've just done a bit of looking into the guy himself and it seems like he is a great physicist but he thinks we should reject the string theory itself, it would appear my head has been filed with his opinions

a combination of velocity and mass both slowing down time to create a dramatic decrease in the flow of time? The way I see it, in some way moving at the speed of light close to the black hole must have some affect on time as well as the mass of the black hole http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=43495.0 imatfaal is on this one too I think the relationship between velocity and gravitational time dilation is called dual dilation or something to that affect it is explained buy special relativity If i'm entirely wrong just tell me straight

http://www.thebigview.com/spacetime/spacetime.html The black holes largest amount of mass centers in the event horizon, the close you get the slower time travels http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation#section_3 Check the velocity time dilation

I thought speed, especially travelling at light speed like the matter entering the event horizon, would have a direct affect on time, ergo when you go faster the higher your mass, the higher the mass the slower time travels, but only from an afar distance away, by someone who is stationary, whilst the traveller would experience time as normal and to him the click would tick at the same rate it always has

I don't know whether i'm talking about dark flow or dark fluid Dark fluid merits a wiki post http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_flow#section_2 Two groups have been constantly arguing over it's existence but it says that even in 2012 it can't be proven or unproven until we have further technology, Your link may be from a side that is against dark flow, Either way anyone could be right about it What I was referring to was the way that dark matter affects the movements of galaxies, I'm not stating dark matter isn't real i'm thinking if the only way we know it exists is due to gravity then is that really enough, there's still debate about dark matter http://m.phys.org/news/2012-04-dark-theories-mysterious-lack-sun.html http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/04/20/195215/survey-finds-no-hint-of-dark-matter-near-solar-system

just outside the black hole matter is being pulled it at just under light speed as compared to the black holes event horizon where it gets pulled i'm at light speed, when he gets closer the gravitational becomes stronger because he is travelling faster, the speed And being next to an object of super mass is what allows the time down, time is moving faster for you than it is for him from your view but his time is still normal, I think, Also let's say this happens in the milky way, Andromeda could collide in the space of time it takes an object to fall in so what would happen in this instance? A black hole appears to have an affect on objects making them appear stationary, but the universe surrounding them continues to evolve if it takes too long for an object to fall in then things can change dramatically before that has a chance to happen

Surely to the victim entering the event horizon, time would flow normal for him? The galaxy spiral arms around him would possibly move fast in his point of view looking out into the galaxy, all he would see providing he can be safe entering was himself moving faster and faster into the event horizon? Judging by the known forces and relativity

No one seems to be considering the oxygen supply here? We know that terraforming is a possibility but it's slightly more complicated than just the basics http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terraforming http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecopoiesis We have some if the technology to terraform but not the resources and with resources decreasing it may become less of a possibly Oxygen complication: http://everything2.com/title/How+much+plant+life+is+needed+to+keep+a+person+alive+in+a+sealed+room%253F Plants causing a major issues: http://www.enotes.com/science/q-and-a/why-do-plants-breath-oxygen-night-109969 And of course for plants we need a good medium to grow them in I always had the idea as a kid that genetically engineering plants was a good idea, using genes that output more oxygen, sturdy plants that survive in harsh conditions, plants that can rely on the sun more so than water

If gravity is said to travel at the speed of light and the star is travelling at a slower rate than that, would earth not be pulled towards an incoming neutron star? Even having a neutron star in the core would that not crush the earth? Not to mention the temperature, are you all from America? Kilometers are different here eg- 10km is 6 miles over here where as with you, the miles seem to be different to America

This is a bit too complicated for my grasp :-\ I think I've got it sort of, so the observer would become part of the black holes disk? Would this inevitably lead to passing through the event horizon, like falling down a drain?

I'm so tired right now :'( by shrinking I was talking about being crushed by the black holes mass, if that's length contraction then sorry, It's really strange, we know that travelling at the speed of light does not stop time but combining it with the black holes mass and the affect of it's movement, causes us to not see objects enter Here's a question, the universe is 13.7 billion years old, being on the inside of our galaxy's spiral arm time travels for us faster than most places and much faster than the super massive black holes relativity at our centre, so if the black hole is at a different time speed wouldn't it be younger than everything else in the galaxy? As in, billions of years have not passed since it's creation judging by it's relativity, in real time black holes could possibly even last a short amount of time before evaporating or not evaporating, depending on your views about black holes

microwaves is what is planned to be used

I see what you mean there are easier ways but we couldn't make a satellite large enough and then send it out into space, the moons equator allows more light to be absorbed and enough to meet demand

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergosphere ta-dah, good old reliable wiki did I say close to light speed? I can't be bothered re-reading everything, anyway this is from the article: This is because the space here is being dragged at exactly the speed of light relative to the rest of space. Outside this limit space is still dragged, but at a rate less than the speed of light.

Wouldn't things shrink before entry, therefore we wouldn't see them anyway, maybe we don't have enough time in our life to observe the entry or enough visible black holes to see an object entering by chance I'm a bit off myself tonight, long day I have to ask why is it we know objects would be crushed by mass and yet we don't know if they even enter? Another consideration is stretching

I don't know -.- it sounded like he didn't understand time dilation It would all happen slow to you I guess, the closer he got and the faster he got the slower he would appear to you? That just my opinion though i'm not using the link to aid my answer in this instance I've previously started that i'm quite stupid I got his name wrong and said sorry but in a cutesy way, not appropriate given the place sorry You can be a space newbie but I will always be the best space newbie

Rolando Sowi

I think maybe you two should restart or look over your conversation again because i'm sure Rowland thinks he is talking about something else and has forgotten what he said