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to the moderator can you delete this forum, i have started a new one in speculations with a much better set up, and there is no need for more than one, and i am new to this website so i dont know where to go to delete this page
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first off i just wanted to say that i am a student, of computer sciences, not environmental or atmospheric sciences. if anything about the notes or research is off, let me know, the more problems found with it, the better in the long run. thank you for you time in reading this, and i am sorry in advance if my terrible hand drawn picture hurt you eyes, they hurt mine too but i sure cant draw a turbine system by hand, let alone the rest of the machine, and the better plans are still in progress for now. ThePantheon Project Inventor: Personal information removed. summarizedsteps for the machine: 1. Create a super cell lightning storm by use of solarpanels, the sun, ocean water, contained by transparent shatter and sound proofglass, with a laser to connect a path of least resistance between the two separatepressured and heated and charged clouds to generate lightning and target thelightning at the lightning rod in the center of the well of water. All solarenergy is to be used in the machine parts like the electromagnets, cathodes andanodes, solar panel positioning in relation with the sun, filtrating andrefining fans, screens, pumps, monitoring devices, turbine (not powergeneration but to create the cold and pressure needed to turn hydrogen gas intoa liquid. 2. Channel the scaled down lightning through a seriesof electrolysis cells wrapped around the super conducting coils that spreaddownwards underground where instead of wasting the electrical energy from thelightning bolt on grounding it, it can be processed and converted into chemicalenergy by splitting elements in sea water. The split elements can be collected,filtered and refined. 3. Channel all elements through a pipe system built toincrease is momentum through an electromagnetic pump, and seeding the elementsthat can't be affected by the magnetic push, with a ferrous element that can beextracted and reused later. 4. After refining and potentially ran through a turbinesystem based off of pressure of elements that are not water or usingcombustibles, then run the elements through a recombination process ofrecombining element like hydrogen and oxygen to create electrical energy,water, and air. Before doing so some of the hydrogen can be bled off into otherprocesses like hydrogen fuels, coolant, etc. 5. Collect the end results of each element, or solutionand either sell them, reuse them for the beginning stages of the machine, orburn them as a combustible fuel for a traditional turbine system where you usethe water purified by the machine for the steam. Optional steps for the machine 1. Waterdoes not have to be sold, same with hydrogen. If built for the purpose of globalwarming control, then built in the Antarctic the machine can desalinate seawater, pump it around the continent, and freeze it using liquid hydrogen. 2. Themachine can be made for entirely green and reusable purposes where the endresult water is recycled, no combustion turbine, and less refining of hydrogenfuels and others solutions. 3. Researchand development of meteorology, weather prediction, testing of atmosphericconditions, lightning theory, and many others are possible with this machinedepending on the monitoring software and hardware available. Researchgoals and scope of the project Thegoals of my project are as varied as the potential uses of the machine. Thisproject can provide the solution to the world's clean water, electricity, food,global warming, and increase the R&D of environmental sciencesexponentially. The project like all the greatest inventions, is simple yetcomplex, and can be used for a host of science fields. The goals are to createa near infinite amount of electrical energy, a perpetual machine, and theproduction of clean water, AC electrical energy, pure hydrogen, heavy water,mercury, and many other resources. To further the environmental science ispartially my goal, but to help the world in its time of need is the main plan.This machine will create and fuel an artificial super cell lightning storm,transform the DC electrical energy, and the thermal energy that comes with it,and convert it into power of electrolysis chambers to split the elements, andbe able to have the machine entirely green friendly in so far as that it can bepotentially powered from entirely renewable resources, and have no pollutioncreated by the machine. Keysubjects and fields involved in this project: Meteorology,climatology, fields of chemistry and physics, and all sciences related to thestudy of electricity, physics, chemistry, atmospheric sciences, and severalothers. Will also need engineers, architects, and electronics specialists,power engineers, and these are but a few of the fields this project touches on. Introduction Thekey points of this research in its first stages would be to set up amulti-sectioned super cell storm by simulation the lower, and the higherpressure conditions, clouds, charging, seeding, and heating/cooling. This canall be done using solar panels to create the clouds, power the seedingmachines, convection would provide some of the circulation needed in the cloudsmovements, as well as providing a free source of power, heat, and taking careof the critical variables like temperature, movement of the clouds, creatingthe clouds, etc. The lightning generated by the charging of dust particlesnegatively on top in the cooled clouds, and positive charge on the bottom wouldsimulate and help create the lightning by all current theories on the subject.Setting off the lightning bolt is asimple matter of a laser, and allowing the two or more clouds to connect withartificial up drafts created by convection, as well as the two differentpressure zones suddenly being connected with one another for a split secondwhile the laser on. The lightning is caught by the lightning rod, which is halfsubmerged into the well of water to be condensed, and some heat is bled intothe water to created more clouds. But differing from a standard lightning rod,mine will make a small change in the dispersal of heat and electrical energy,by repurposing the network built underground to contain and disperse theelectrical current and heat, in a well-known and used process of electrolysis.The electrolysis will split the elements in the ocean water (if ocean water isused) and allow for the production of pure hydrogen, oxygen, and many otherchemicals, pure elements, and generally anything that can be produced from seawater. The pressure of being underground and electrostatic pumps willpressurize pipes made to capture the split elements, and pump it to spinselectrical generators (turbines) to create AC power. Some of the elements arerecombined to create pressure for another set of turbines. This set using saythe combination of hydrogen and oxygen, will create pure clean water, pureoxygen, and some of the hydrogen can be bled off into manufacturing stageslater on. The reason I called the machine a perpetual machine, is because ifthe hydrogen and oxygen can recombined and the water is sent back to the well,then it could potentially run with no waste products other than the replacingof obsolete, or damaged parts, aka the maintenance aspect. If built for a moremanufacturing set up then it would need more input of resources like the water,and would recycle less as you will be draining the resources out of the water. Materials: Lightning protection system modified forelectrolysis, Solar panels, High power laser/s, Electromagnets for numerousneeds, Water from the ocean/lakes/underground streams, electrolysis tanks,replaceable filters, both molecular and larger, pressurization monitors andrelease valves, pipes, wire, high heatceramics, high impact/heat/sound proof glass or plastics, potentially teslacoils, recombination tanks, storage tanks, capacitors, power inverters,electrical power and heat measurement devices, radiation detectors,superconductive materials, ceramics for heat transfer, facility for themanufacturing and packaging of resources, and anything else needed depending onwhat the machines purpose is intended for, be it production of electricity,resources, or simply re-freezing and repairing the Antarctic and arctic polarice caps. Methods: Basic summary involves: Stage1: Multilayer containment for the cloudgeneration: a well with ample water supply, lightning rod, shatter proof, soundproof, and high strength glass to contain clouds, and possible shaped like a 3dVenn diagram in so far as 2 main cloud layers, and a mixing area for thereaction between the 2 to happen. Convectionto help move the air currents in the clouds, and help move and split the elementsin the electrolysis stages, this comes from the solar panels, which arepositioned to capture as much sunlight as possible and bounce the light andheat amongst each other for more power and control over the clouds temperatureand movements, and density. Electromagnets to charge the clouds by providingcharged dust to create friction and hold a larger charge, solar power to power the electro/hydrostatic pumps for theelectrolysis collection of split elements, as well as possibly pressuring thefirst set turbines with the pressurized solutions. Followed by the pumping ofthe split elements into a recombination stage to get the finished product ofwater, oxygen, and more pressure for the turbines to use. A cleaning stagedirectly after the initial electrolysis stage to collect extra materials usingreplaceable filters, and or other techniques that I have yet to encounter. Stage2: Electrolysis: this stage is generallythe splitting of the elements due to pressure, DC electricity generated by the scaleddown lightning as well as the heat from the same source. It will be the mainstage as far as I am concerned, and will be what allows for the harnessing ofthe massive heat and electrical potential of lightning. Gravity: one of thelargest factors in this process, and yet the easiest to factor in, this forcewill provide pressure in the pipe systems, as well as for the other processes. Stage3-4: Turbines: will need more than one type,as there will be turbines powered by pressurized liquids, turbines powered bythe combination of hydrogen/oxygen power (as is seen in NASA space shuttles andin hydrogen fuel cells), and turbines in more of a common combustible version,as some of the waste products will be very flammable, and there is no need tokeep elements that is not needed for thecloud seeding, manufacturing, or any other needed process, unless combined withother waste elements to create more pressure for turbines, or simply to createa more useful elements, this would need a large amount of research, and wouldbe very useful towards the manipulation of matter in its most base forms, orheavy forms. The turbines will be powered by a mixture of pressure created fromgravity, heat, electrostatic pumps, and hydrostatic pressure, combination ofelements, combustion for waste materials to create steam pressure as iscommonly seen in coal power plants or gas power. Manufacturing:(forge of Hephaestus) Probably the easiest stage as the use ofelectrically splitting elements are well used and researched, so simply findinga balanced equilibrium between production, recycling, and profitability wouldprovide the amounts of resource production with the refinery/factory beingbased off of those figures. Essentially many elements, solutions, mixtures, andmaterials can be created here, as ocean water has many parts that make up it,as well as the air itself having many base elements as a part of its makechemical makeup. Either way most if not all of the essentials of this processare already solved, so it's just a matter of the math, and what one wants to dowith this stage, in other words what they want to produce, build, create, or justsimply test. Containment of the whole underground ofthe device: I have long thought that the best way tokeep everything at optimal power output, was to simply submerge all the partsinto a solution of non-ferrous, non-conductive, liquid for cooling andcontainment of all compartmentalized parts of the machine. If proven toincrease the productivity, then it could be cooled in turn by infusions ofliquid hydrogen, to provide movement of the liquid, and cool the liquid asliquid hydrogen is extremely cold and able to drastically lower the tempatureof the insulation solution. This should help the process as research statesthat superconductors work better in low temperatures. Results: I have been unable to fund more than oneprototype to be built, involving no more than the first couple of steps, IE thecreating of the cloud, the generation of a spark, and unfortunately thesubsequent explosion of the device, destruction of my computer, and all mynotes, and the loss of my pantheon 2.5 project. This project Pantheon 5.0 ismerely the latest attempt. And all need for equations like barometric pressure,electrolysis, and essentially all of the math is irrelevant without knowing howlarge to build the device, for what aspect it is to be built, and even the relativelybasic question of can an orbital platform in geosynchronous be found or built to provide this machine withsunlight year around. If the device is made for manufacturing then the planschange, if made for electrical energy production exclusively, then theequations would change yet again. Generally everything would change dependingon the variables inherent in just the scaling of the machine, and as theychange, so do the rest the specifications, and production values, etc. Conclusion: In conclusion the machine will be ableto function as a multipurpose tool for the powering of hydroponic farms, remotelocations with little power requirements like an outpost, electrical power forcities, clean air, water, hydrogen for fuel cells, can clean rivers, lakes,oceans, provide water, and generally has the potential to fix many technicalproblems that plague the human race. I have been unable to fully prove ordisprove some of this work and so I wrote this for others much more able tojudge whether the steps provided are in fact capable of doing what I hope ispossible for this machine, and research into so many fields at once is notpossible if one wants more than just a simple big picture. Also the entirety ofthe machine is based off current technologies, research, well used andresearched processes, and just a wee bit of hope. Sources References,sources https://kb.osu.edu/dspace/bitstream/handle/1811/33674/OS_ENG_v08_i03_009.pdf?sequence=3 http://pesn.com/2005/07/21/9600126_Lightning_Wrangler/ http://www.askamathematician.com/2010/05/q-would-it-be-possible-to-generate-power-from-artificial-lightning/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_control http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20369 http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/environment/cloud-seeding-experiment-has-thundering-success-1.104086 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercell http://imtuoradea.ro/auo.fmte/files-2007/MECANICA_files/badea_gabriela_1.pdf Final note: This is simply a summary of mycurrent notes, and as my main computer system, backups, notes, research, and myprototype as well as the original and incarnations of the device were lost,stolen, and destroyed, as well as my old partner a very talented engineer, Ihave been unable to get more than a basic representation of the devicesrequired and more than a basic plan to show the process required. But they arerepresented fairly well (yet horrible drawn) and since it is a basicrepresentation, it does not have to be perfect, nor even finished as it stillneeds potentially dozens if not hundreds of specialized professionals to workon it. (not to mention a lab, funding, etc.) Basic concept design (not to be seen as the finished copy, as I amnot an artist, I am a computers specialist and don't have a modeling programlike AUTOCAD, Lightwave, LogicLab, or any others):
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there is a video on instructables.com at http://www.instructables.com/pages/search/search.jsp?cx=partner-pub-1783560022203827%3Anpr2q7v5m6t&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=coil+gun, this website is great because it can help with a lot of projects in any number of fields
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i would just like to say that yes, i was a little behind in the economics portion, but the lightning being generated is being made artificially, so as to get past the waiting time for a storm, i built my own clouds, producing lightning from sunlight, ocean water, and mixng a seed chemical to hold a greater charge. once the clouds are up and running in a enclosed area, they have been able to maintain themselves with little changes so long as the are well monitored and supplied by the ocean water. the main sources of electrical energy output from this machine is more from the more traditional turbine system of recombination of the hydrogen/oxygen, and a turbine for waste element combination.combustion. i know that it will not produce a power on the same scale as nuclear technology, and that it is still in its infantile stages, as i have yet to try the electrolysis stage, but depending on the use of the machine, electrical power might not be the issue, but more of how much clean water can be produced, or how much hydrogen fuel can be manufactured, or how much oxygen can be produced and sold to the hospitals, oxygen, hydrogen fuel, and others like deuterium can be collected while collecting water. so in essence the electrical production is not the main point of the machine, just a little bonus. this machine is more about the production of valuable resources for a low operating cost, and R&D of weather manipulation/manufacturing, and potentially if the machine is modlified and built to be entirely on remote control, could be used to refreeze the polar ice caps with the desalinated water, and liquid hydrogen to freeze it. if there are any comments about my very bad drawing skills, plz nore that the picture inclosed is a very basic concept, and that there are about 3 sets of plans on the go, depending on what one wants more out of the machine, power, or resources, a colder planet, or a cleaner fuel system. thank you again for reading this, and if there are any major problems that dont have to do with my terrible vocabulary or drawing skills, then please let me know.
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Air Gear (aka: electrical powered inline skates)
lightning diety replied to Roaxis's topic in Engineering
why not put a small cushion of air between the two layers as a shock system, and when pressing down with your whole foot, channel the air pressure into a tiny turbine so that shifting your weight will slightly increase the out put power, or even use the electrical power generated to recharge the power cells on the roller blades. it is sound in theory, and oddly enough the same principles added by the author of air gear. -
i suppose i need some notes on the process so here are some of the base principle of the working sections. the start up process uses solar panels to collect electrical energy channeling them to the electromagnets that help charge the cloud sections. the solar panels also direct heat for cloud formation, and convection of heat cause for simulated wind conditions. there is a well with sea water, a lightning rod, and straight above it a laser to direct the lightning. the lightning rod capture the lightning, channeling much of the heat for more clouds, and runs the lightning through a series of electrolysis cells wrapped around what used to be the lightning grounding channels/wires. the lightning electrical power is converted to electrolysis, which through the use of pressure and electromagnetic pumps can run the split hydrogen, oxygen, and smaller concentrations of other elements through pressure turbines, then some of the waste elements can be combined to produce power, or for manufacturing, where as the hydrogen and oxygen can be combine for electricity, clean water, clean oxygen, and some of the hydrogen can be bled off for hydrogen fuels. it will not be the best creater of electrical energy, but will be able to do a fairly efficient job of making clean water and air from the oceans water, test weather conditions and any possible research in the fields of atmoshperic and weather research, and if used in the antarctic, and a fair bit of liquid hydrogen is bled off a used to freeze the clean water that the machine produces, then potentially the machine can be used to regrow the ice and the antarctic itself, giving the world a fair bit of extra time that it needs to fix the green house gas problem. i hope some of these note help a bit more.
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i am working on a machine that produced a artificial super cell strorm, charges and seeds the cloud sections, and through the use of charged dust, a laser, and several solutions (seeds) added to the clouds, have produced scaled down and directable lightning. the question i have been asking around for quite some time is this: can the captured lightning if split enough times and scaled down through splitting, be used to power electrolysis cells full of sea water, and turn this sea water into its base elements like oxygen, hydrogen fuel, clean air/water, etc. i do know that the process is more than capable of doing so, its just the timing of it that is the problem, there will be a thousandth of a second in which to convert the lightning into electrolysis power. i would say more but i am in the process of patenting a few stages of my machine, and cant really say more about the proccess's until they are patented as this is a very competitive world, and my machine has the potential to slow global warming, and fix the clean air/water/fuel problems of mankind. so any answer would be very helpful, and if more info is needed, than email me at <email address removed> and depending on the question, i will be able to elaborate more extensivly on the machine.