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They were excited, additional energy was added to the system.

They get further away when they are exited, they must to conserve energy, as the frequency can't change, so the distance must increase. As the additional energy is dissipated, the electron must start traveling back to its original position to the nucleus to conserve energy, but constantly moving outward from the nucleus as energy is dissipated in the system as the volume of the system increases.

"If" the sun was not losing mass?

It's all the same.

I didn't say it was a repulsive force, I said the object would get further away from the core. D H has already posted that in order for energy to be conserved the Earth must get further away. I'd say that is true for all bodies (expansion).

Gravity holds them together. How much time did it take for each measure of displacement to occur, or did you do work with no time?

Are you suggesting an outside "spiritual influence" decides when work is accomplished??? :rolleyes: Especially one that knows what he's talking about.

That's what I said, and no work means no power, right?

They do, otherwise perpetual motion would be possible.

No, I'm saying just the opposite, that the electron gets further from the nucleus.

The force of a proton, the force of an electron, and the force of a neutron? The distance from the proton to the electron.

What is the force and distance?

How much work is being done?

Resistance to the motion. It could be any type of resistance or "inertial force." Not to contest the reality, but to describe it accurately.

We are not talking about tidal effects, we are talking about two objects being acted upon by gravity, with their center points being a distance away from each other.

The perpetual motion Insane Alien suggested. Mooeypoo showed nothing except incorrect statements.

I wasn't suggesting "falling through the ground," I was pointing out that since it is so obvious that you CAN'T be "falling through the ground," your velocity towards the center of the Earth is 0 m/s, and your acceleration is therefore 0 m/s^2, since no matter how much time is observed, your exact distance to the center of the Earth remained unchanged.

There is a subsystem to an electron, it's called distance. How do you "apply" work to a subsystem when you can do no work?

What was the duration, and what would the duration be if you put a heavier weight on the bar?

So where did it come from and is it getting further away from the core? Is that what you are asking? Did the change occur instantly?

It is a nonsensical statement, I agree. But accepted theory has no choice but to agree with it, because there was never any work done.

Correct, no work is being done, therefore there is no power, as power=work/time. That means for all of time there has never been, and never will be any power?

It has everything to do with the resistance, or "the load", or otherwise known as "force," Everything is relative, remember?? No force (load, or resistance) means no work got done, which means no power. Distance and time occurred, but no opposing force was present, so no work got done. So with all the atoms present in the universe, none of them doing any work, the universe is powerless, is that what you are trying to tell me?

No resistance means no power, because no work got done, only distance and time occured. What does that do to the energy over a fixed duration of time, when no work got done over a fixed time interval?

Not in any way. There is no free ride. If you looked at the frequency wave of that electron's motion it would be constantly diminishing to a flat line according to time. Perpetual motion would not do that.