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I think there is some fracturing going on there and it looks to me that especially on the provincial level conservatives are dipping their toes into certain areas such as vaccination, gender identity and so on to see whether that gives them a boost. It looks a fair bit like the US around 10 years back but in some areas there is some radicalization going on for sure. Unfortunately American Crazy is a potent export and I am not sure whether even on the Federal level the Canadian parties can counteract that.

It is also somewhat concerning that one might think that knowledge is lost until it is shown on youtube of all places.

You are right. I should avoid these funny little buzzwords that obscure how obscene and crazy the actual situation is.

Eh, I kinda doubt that this still true at this point in time. Also, the Trump flags next to F*ck Trudeau stickers is jarring. That is certainly not universally true. There are aspects that are certainly different from US conservatives and in some cases (e.g. firearms) it is because they cater to a radical minority. So I would say that Canadian extreme right has less sway over the party than in their equivalent in the USA (which at this point is largely dominating the party). However, especially on the provincial level conservatives are adopting (perhaps milder) US style campaigning and have sowed vaccine skepticism (https://www.nationalobserver.com/), tend to ignore climate change and for some reasons are obsessed with trans folks. Looking at the US election, 44% of Canadian conservatives prefer Trump over Harris (36%) (https://www.environicsinstitute.org/docs/default-source/default-document-library/read-the-report6589c781-7dd1-40c2-b3ad-372bb98c1aa1.pdf?sfvrsn=cac8947f_1). That is clearly more US Independent territory than Democrat. Likewise, on abortion rights, Canadian conservatives are far more in favour (66%) compared to the US Republicans or even Independents (34%/58%) but still less than US Democrats (89%). Canadian Liberals are closer to US Democrats (91%). Economically, on statements of social and economic justice (i.e., government should do more to make sure racial minorities are treated fairly and government should reduce income gap between poor and rich), Canadian Conservatives (62% and 58% in favour) are close to US Independents (64%/50%) than US Democrats (93%/87%). The percentage is still higher than US Republicans (36%/34%). Still, while Canadian conservatives as a whole are are more to the left of US Republicans, they are closer to Independents rather than Democrats. Some surveys do show further movement to the right in Canada, especially in some provinces, suggesting that the polarization in USA, which has been largely absent until ~2019 in Canada might also start to settle in.

I think they will be feel very much at home seeing the pickups with confederate flags... Plus, depending on the province and how the next Federal election will go, there might be 2,000 additional jobless folks.

Also, why would he wage war against folks he admires in the first place? He will hand Putin whatever he wants and Xi just needs to say one or two nice things (plus perhaps some underhanded deals) and I would not be surprised if the US policy with Taiwan suddenly changes. As Trump said, he sees the enemy within. Well and perhaps he is going to randomly bomb Mexico.

I think what worries me most about the political situation is not only that Trump could become president, but that the situation is rife for another, more intelligent fascist to take control of the US at some point in the future. Folks like Orban and moreso Meloni are normalizing authoritarianism and for once I do think we are looking at a real slippery slope here.

Yep, and I have come a cross a few other examples where folks are confusing no established safe levels to toxic/harmful at any levels. I think in part it is because the common assumption is that we understand toxicity (or harm, which is even more complicated) in a more complete way than we really do.

I think there is another meta-review out focusing on cancer, where a steady increase of risk was found with alcohol consumption. The issue is that the lack of low concentrations as OP is asking for. Incidentally, this is a situation where fine details matter in communication and why it might trip up folks.

There is a bit of an understanding in how toxicity and safe limits (or no-effect concentrations) are determined (specifically this is a lack of data issue, not so much of a clear esatblished low-level toxicity profile), but I the short version is that no it does not mean that tiny amounts will lead to long-lasting effects (typically is related to cancer effects, which makes things even more problematic evidence-wise). In short, we do not have data on trace amount, and it is unlikely to do any harm over your regular diet. I will note, for example, that you likely have (very) low levels of alcohol in your gut right now. We carry a number of bacteria and yeasts in our gut that can produce some levels of ethanol as part of their regular metabolism (there is also a rare so-called auto-brewery syndrome, but that is probably not part of this discussion). But to put it really short, other factors in your diet (e.g. sugar) are likely going to have more impact on your overall cancer risk than a the residual ethanol levels you find in bread or vinegar.

True on both accounts. What is worrying (to me) is that it seems that the US is an indicator for the the rest of the world, the way things are going. This is a long-standing problem especially in communicating science. The conventional wisdom was that you have to simplify as much as possible, but also make it punchy so to not bore folks. I am not so sure that this works in the age of clickbaits anymore. The challenge is that if things are simplified, some folks will invariably find some issues in the reporting. It could be a minor inaccuracy but can also be real concerns that weren't covered. These gaps are then frequently exploited to question all the other (valid) claims. It has become fairly serious and it is something that I find myself increasingly (and reluctantly) working on, as it severely impacts public health and there is a kind of amnesia setting in on every level, that might endanger our ability to respond to future threats.

The incentive is certainly there. It seems to be a winning strategy that is seemingly also easier to implement. I.e. you do not need any fact-based analysis of anything, you just need repeat your claim to make it so. Having a firm moral basis does not seem to provide much of a benefit nowadays.

See, that is why I always found it funny if folks proclaim things like that racism, anti-semitism and sexism is functionally over and that the pendulum has swung too far. Really what happened is that the only swing we had is more towards a more careful approach to proclaiming your ignorance and intolerance. But that movement was enough to make it swing all the way back. The main difference is that on top, ignorance is also on full display (and ignorance is the PC word here for the stuff people openly proclaim). And it does seem that one political side is benefiting more from ignorance than the other. So much so, that fascism is getting acceptable again, and not only in the USA, for that matter.

Yep. Plenty of diseases with a genetic basis manifest later in life and might have little or no effect during development. There are many potential reasons, some include being inactive until later in life, requirement of some interactions (either internally or with the environment) to manifest the disorder, functions that can inhibit the disorder during development but not later in life, etc. One might think that organisms are extremely purpose-built and small changes can cause disorder or malfunction. In reality what is considered "normal" is more of a weird mess where a lot of variation exists that under certain conditions works perfectly fine but may break down under others. It is much less deterministic what works and what doesn't as one might imagine.

Yes that's it. Forgot how it was called for a second. There is of course also the tendency of traditional media to "sanewash" what is going on, just so that it fits traditional sensibilities. But as I said, I think we are somewhere else entirely already.

There is also an interesting trend regarding minorities and how grievances can be used to balance each other out. Historically, minorities were sensitive to threats against them and such rhetoric is generally considered toxic for that voting block. However, the GOP has made inroads with e.g. Hispanic men. I don't think there is a clear consensus as to why, but some argue that there is an educational gender divide. Hispanic women are more likely to pursue higher education and Hispanic men are less likely to absorb traditional media, instead relying on their social network. Trump is popular in the working class, and some studies suggest that it is the projection of a (weird) form of masculinity, which is laced with more than a bit of misogyny. On the other hand, IIRC, the gender gap is narrower than in other voting blocs.

One can only hope. Though after Charlottesville and Jan 6. I am not sure whether I would get my hopes up. That feels like the most tangible element. Maybe there is some lingering recency effect. It is just hard for me to imagine that after all these years this is will suddenly penetrate folks' skulls. The shock effect is long gone. That being said, silly as it may seem, it appears that policy plays at best a minor role and we are headed into ideology-driven politics. Here, issues such as racism, misogyny, and views masculinity (pro and contra) may be key elements determining voting blocks more than ever before.

Considering that they were able to explain away a coup attempt (which was universally condemned when everyone was afraid for their lives), I don't think that this bar is any higher, to be honest. Maybe I am too cynical, but I don't think we can rely on certain standards anymore.

I would say he was a symptom of prevalent racism, and folks being afraid that the Overton window has shifted so far that being PC now applied to subtle and systemic racism as well (which we can see in the rejection of CRT), which is a bridge too far. Those were already present in 2016 with his rapists comments. It wasn't subtle then, either. It just has become more blunt, but why should it make a difference once we are so far down the hole?

Yeah, it did definitely amplify that. But I caution against a narrative that only Reps are vulnerable against misinformation. They are just at a higher rate. The baseline is still pretty sad and the shock of a the pandemic did little to change that.

Unfortunately that is nothing new as such. IIRC the estimated annual deaths from influenza were in the order from 20-50k. Yet vaccination rates have remained abysmal throughout. At the time I though that the sudden and massive impact of COVID-19 would shake the status quo. Unfortunately, the result was a further decline in vaccination uptake. And it is not only an US issue. Canada had lower vaccination rates to begin with and is trending the same. Working in public health seems to be as much fun as working on global warming, I guess.

That is what I am getting at. OP makes the claim that "printing money" is the main cause of current inflation and that "increasing taxes" are the only mechanism to reduce them. While both are have pro an counter inflationary effects (though only personal income taxes, from what I remember ), they are far from being the only mechanisms. And they specifically do not seem to play a role now, (alluding to news outlets suggests current events).

I hope not, because that would be a silly claim.

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Not universally so. As already mentioned, some animals seek out carrion. Some insects breed there, but there are also carrion eaters (crows, vultures, many predators). Perhaps somewhat interestingly, the characteristic smell of cadavers is caused by bacteria (obviously), and much of the foul odour is caused by diamines, such as cadaverine and putrescine.