SamBridge

You don't see x-rays coming out of a blackhole, but according to Hawking radiation, the uncertainty of the thermal energy within a black hole can exceed the boundaries of a black hole in a form I can only rationalize as infra-red photons as there is no other medium for thermal energy around a black hole in a vacuum. This however is not the same principal has light traveling distance over time, this is the wave like nature of light's probability correlating to a distance from the singularity that is greater than the event horizon.

Religion doesn't seem like a bad thing so long as you aren't destroying society with it and do not substitute it in for proof, it seems to have been what created more complex, older societies in the first place. Not all religious people are crusaders.

If we accept the notion that light is constant, we must accept the notion that the rate time passes and relative distance can change. In Lorentz transformations, time dilation alone nor length contraction alone counts for the whole picture of relative motion to inertial frames when one object is stationary to an outside frame. If you have two objects traveling 99% the speed of light directly away from each other, since they travel at the same speed, their clocks would agree, which can only leave the length to contract because if it didn't they would measure each other traveling 1.98 times the speed of light. It is the same principal as if they were heading towards each other, but because they are heading towards each other, if length contacted it would decrease the distance they see between each other on top of the already classical notion that they would measure each other heading towards each other at 1.98 times the speed of light. So, the length must increase. Didn't you say in your first post a meter stick can get longer?

No, I played the part of logical thinking. Formulas for circles are only approximations for circular objects found in reality and any legitimate mathematician will say that. But because of our observations, we know that a circle formula is such a good approximation for the area or circumference of of an equally curved object that we cant ignore it, and can show that if the object was perfectly circular that it would have an area or circumference very close to what the formula predicts.

Well what about the scenario I proposed? To increase the # of electrons lets just use Argon or Krypton. I have a Krypton nuclei with 0 electrons, and another with all of it's electrons. Could I get more than six covalent bonds from that?

I keep asking because specific frequencies of light can be formed by atoms in excited states. Since thermal photons can do this, it must in some way have something to do with it. Besides, I did mention that Einstein used quantinization of energy in light to explain the UV catastrophe, but you were very vague and merely said there's different statistics in QM that aren't in CP, which can be interpreted as a whole host of things.

Um, no, it translates what to based on my knowledge, what the outcome should be. It length contracts in the direction of light while light is heading towards something like say observer A, since time dilation alone isn't the complete picture, light should be measured as traveling faster than C. But it doesn't, it can only mean the relative distance expands, which I imagine would be negative length contraction.

It's sort of like that, but it's one step bigger than that. You need to create a summation of 1 dimensional points to create space filling lines which then creates a plane.

But if B's clock wasn't slowed down to counter the length contraction, reducing the relative distance from B to A would be the same thing as saying that light traveled a greater distance than one light second per second. A is the one in the gravitational potential, to A it's cocks would run normally, but because B is in a lesser gravitational potential or a greater height off the ground, why wouldn't that make B's clock run faster relative to A?

I could just as easily say all capitalistic nations are bad because the US corrupted politicians of South American governments for it's own benefit. Point is, it's up to countries to decide what system of government they want to try, there's always going to be some good leaders and bad leaders regardless of if a country is communist or socialist or capitalist or ect.

Well, ok, but what about the lack of leaps lead to the catastrophe? 2 years and I still can't ever get a straight answer out of you.

You need visuals to know a certain mathematical pattern is applicable to reality, but you need math to prove what a pattern in reality actually is.

Why would Jesus rely on humanity happening to develop technology advanced enough to spot a cross on the sun that isn't even that clear? What happened to four horsemen? Scientists were baffled amused to find a cross-like pattern.

So if you have experience with calculus you know that you can use limits to sort of cheat physical reality and add an infinite number of infinitessimally small things to get a solid thing. However, I started thinking about compounding it. You can make a cube by adding an infinite number of infinitesimal squares, but what about making square? I postulate that there is a mathematical way to add up an infinite number of points to create lines, then have the spacing between those lines go to 0 to create a plane or square, and then have thickness and spacing of those squares go to 0 to create a solid cube all in one equation. Anyone have ideas? Or is it impossible?

There was actually an interesting new point brought to my attention about climate change recently. Clouds. Clouds seem to a part of the error account for errors in predicting what the exact temperature rise will be, different weather groups can predict different outcomes based on how they consider the number of shallow or deep clouds to increase. There's an important discovery to be made though. Clouds trap heat as well as reflect it. However, deep clouds such as thunderstorm clouds will trap more heat, while shallow clouds will reflect more heat that they trap. Because the temperature is currently rising, more water vapor is being put into the atmosphere, and thus the amount of clouds will increase, but will there be more shallow clouds? Or more deep clouds? Or equal mounts? If there's more shallow clouds like stratus and shallow cumulus, then the effect could be the Earth cooling or discontinuing the rise in temperature. However, if a greater amount of deep clouds like cumulonimbus incus clouds are produced, more heat will be trapped. http://www.nsf.gov/news/special_reports/clouds/

Of course I'm agreeing, I said "therefore nothingness cannot exist". Btw, going off topic with hounds guys, I doubt hounds have many contributions to understanding the nature of non-existence. Also, logic alone can't answer a question based on physical circumstances because you need at least some data of physical reality that the given set of logical equations applies to reality in the first place in order to prove that the sequence of logical steps applies to the specific component of reality at all. You can think of it like an integral. When you take the integral of say, 2x, you get x^2+c. The curve at any point can always be destroyed as at least behind a function of x^2 involving x^2, but you need to know a specific data point of an actual function of x^2+c to know what C is and thus have a complete picture of the equation you are trying to describe.

What he's saying is that because of the economy, people are not wishing as much and therefore his job as a...wish monitor, has taken a pay cut which reduces the amount of time he can spend logically thinking as he needs another job.

Religious belief isn't a "delusion" even scientifically as you cannot disprove it. It is a lifestyle choice in which one actively practices traditions of the said region and thus becomes more connected to the religion throughout the actions of one's life. There are plenty of random given things that atheists and religious people alike can believe in. For instance, you can "believe" in alien UFOs even though that itself is not a religion, but you don't see me calling moontanman schizophrenic. The most likely reason to believe alien UFOs is because of a connection to a distinguished event in one's life such as that you saw something in the sky which you could only rationalize at the time as being an alien made device as it did not behave like terrestrial technologies and did not have the characteristics of a natural phenomena that you knew of, even though there's no proof of such alien technology.

Conventionally in elementary chemistry, you really only deal with at most quadruple bonds which typically occur in the carbon group, but I know there are higher bonding states http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sextuple_bond But, what exactly allows this to happen and what creates this limit for other atoms? Let's say you stripped all the electrons from Neon and had just the nuclei, the orbitals would fill according to whatever s2p4... pattern they have in such a way that each orbital would have a net spin of 0, an up by 1/2 and a down by 1/2. However, let's say this nuclei came into contact with another neon atom with 10 electrons, could you then have a dectupple covalent bond? Or, what else would happen?

It has to have something to do with it if electrons do not continue increasing their energy state or making bigger quantum leaps. The thermal energy builds up and acts like a standing wave. Great. What's the problem exactly? Because of the uncertainty of the thermal radiation over distance, the heat in a way builds up to eventually build a standing wave in a similar manner that you make a standing wave on a string by trying to continuously vibrate it in the right way, but what about the mode of thermal radiation or any causes the UV catastrophe? It get's hotter, but electrons of the material still do not excite to a high enough energy state to produce large amounts of UV light upon again changing their state.

What about length "Expansion" and not contraction? Unless that's just negative contraction. "http://www.mth.uct.ac.za/omei/gr/chap8/node7.html http://www.mth.uct.ac.za/omei/gr/chap8/node8.html The redshift IS the time dilation. The factors are the same. AFAIK you get the same kind of compensation you do in SR so that locally c will be a constant." How exactly does that work that a photon experiences time dilation? If you measured light as having a slower clock, wouldn't it no longer travel at the speed of light? Thus, why isn't the answer some kind of length transformation? It doesn't seem to make sense that a meter stick get's slower, if you contract the length over an observed distance of observer A, you would in effect be saying the same thing as giving it a higher velocity because it would be traveling a greater measured distance relative to observer A... It would make much more sense if a relative meter stick increased, which in a way would stretch out light's wavelength, while the clock of observer B relative to observer A slowed down due to gravity in such a way that they measured light taking the proper time to reach them so that as they would not measure light traveling fast than "c" as it headed right towards B them.

Can I plz have an answer? If it atom is at a high energy state, you most likely can't excite it with a radio-wave...right? The probability distribution of thermal energy or the uncertainty of the thermal energy occupies the whole "box" after a certain amount of time, acting almost like a standing wave, and after an atom is excited to a certain point, say the material is 4000 degrees F, electrons in atoms cannot posses higher frequencies of their oscillation modes because __________...

The scientific method IS observations, if you say science is wrong, then in effect there is no basis to believe any particular thing to be true, therefore assumptions like god have no logical reason to be regarded over any one else's beliefs.

Huh? Oh...yeah...by definition nothingness can't exist because by definition there is nothing to constitute the existence of nothingness. If there's nothingness, then there is no medium that acts to sustain the existence of nothingness. Plain and simple. Technically there is nothingness all around us in the form of an infinite amount of 0 sized points, boxes that have 0 width and 0 height, boundaries with 0 units of distance outside of them, ect.