Moontanman

Religions also speak of multiarmed elephant people...

Just as soon as we can nibble on their toes I will consider it...

I see, somehow vegans don't exactly strike me as a homogenous group..

Hmm, can you define "bigoted" ?

Losing my lower jaw to a bone infection pretty much stopped my eating of most junk food. Not really recommended but I do understand the cravings, I used to eat lots of spicy chips...

Honestly I thought it was, sorry...

Evidently not to some people..

So now you are going to tell me how to raise children... riiiight...

The whole growing meat thing is interesting, I think we'll be able to do that on an industrial scale sooner than we might think. Crisper is the key! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultured_meat You are welcome to eat all the dirt you want, I'm betting that will difficult to introduce to the general population. If you want to be a vegan, knock yourself out but to suggest everyone should be will take quite a bit more than the spiritual hand waving and bogus citations you have given so far. Personally guys, I like vegetables quite a bit, not such a big fan of grains. But if the apocalypse comes all bets are off and hunger can cause you to do some weird things.. watch your back..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_reality

When my youngest son was about 2 we went to the NC zoo and they had a toddler gorilla and he interacted with my son through the glass. I would give anything to have had than recorded...

You say this and I read an article the other day about babies dying because they were fed a vegan diet. https://www.diet.com/g/american-dietetic-association?get=american-dietetic-association Not exactly a non profit organization with no agenda are they?

Why? How can you say what a dolphin can or cannot understand? Maybe sperm whales with their huge brains already know everything and spend their time hashing out the details.. Actually it's more like 250 million years, just a blink in cosmic time really...

What would you do with all the cows, goats, sheep, chickens, hogs, iguanas, horses, and any other animal that has been bred to thrive in captivity? More than that they condone killing and burning animals because god loves the smell of burning flesh!

Yes, he could bounce you like a rubber ball... I saw one playing with a huge truck tire when I was a kid, he could sling that thing around like we would a frisby..

It's not that you can't find them, it's that they would be such high demand the prices would shoot through the roof. Do you think you could live your life on rice? Corn? Wheat? not a chance... Humans need complete proteins, vitamins, and minerals only found easily is animal products. Can you imagine how expensive nuts would be if everyone had to eat enough of them to be healthy without meat? Human nutrition is complex, you can't live on nothing but bread...

I hear the song dancing queen by Abba playing when the gorilla does that!

So you would have billions of people die from malnutrition with in years if not months? To survive on a vegan diet takes some pretty special plants and they are not easy to grow in large quantities. Of course that would solve the build up of the feces and urine of billions of humans.. I'd like to see some citations for those assertions before I am willing to accept them...

When you say environmentally friendly are you taking into account that it would be far more difficult to grow protein without eating animals to feed the entire world? We can and often to raise animals on land that is not fit to raise plant crops on, the grain used to feed animals is not as nutritious as eating the animals. Veganism would mean far fewer humans could live on the earth...

Human beings are predators, omnivores if you want to be picky. Not eating meat is unnatural, eating meat is what allowed us to evolve into the thinking beings we are today. I grew up on a farm, abusing animals was a good way to get your hide tanned... We always treated the animals well, our lives depended on it, we never even killed an animal in the sight of other animals. But we did kill and we did eat and I never felt bad about it. Factory farming might be less than humane but as Phi said abusing animals at the very least affects the quality of the meat, I think that raising animals for food is better than killing wild animals but I do that as well, I like to eat, meat is good for me and good to eat. To be completely honest the only wild meat I generally eat is fish I catch myself, but I kill rats, mice, bugs and anything that is dangerous or interferes in bad way in my life, I don't feel any worse about them than the deer burger I made spaghetti out of last night... Humans are part of the ecosystem, we eat them, sometimes they eat us, in the distant past we were probably eaten quite often. Another thing to think about, why do plants have less of a right to live than animals? Oh and by the way I feel quite spiritual, the supernatural or killing has nothing to do with it...

Nothing cannot exist is my take on this. The idea of particles popping into existence out of nothing is flawed, the particles pop into existence but not out of nothing. Space is full of energy fields, these energy fields are the source of virtual particles... For there to be nothing there has to be something to compare it to and nothing automatically becomes something..

I disagree, I see no reason for a who or a next realm. The only think that possibly comes to mind is the simulation hypothesis...

The largest category would be bacteria, bacteria dominate everything, from raw numbers to simple volume bacteria are the dominant life forms on this planet. Everything else is an afterthought at best...