Moontanman

Evidently I have not been keeping up with current tech in this area, I tried to do this about 30 years ago but the timer thing was insurmountable on my budget.

Thank you, I think your suggestion might be out of my particular wheelhouse but If I can't figure out a way to turn lights off and on on a 36 hour schedule of 12 hours of dark and 24 hours of light over the course of months this maybe my only recourse.

🦇 bat... 💩 shit... 🤪 crazy!

Thanks, I have done some checking at various local stores and all I could find were timers based on 24 hour days, I'll have to look closer

In the culture of plants via artificial light I have read in a book on indoor gardening that the day length is not what controls plant growth and flowering but the length of darkness associated with the day is what triggers plant growth. This opens up the idea of how long does the darkness have to be and how long can the day length be and not affect the growth, maturity, and fruiting of the plants being cultured. 12 to 10 hours of darkness is necessary to trigger the plant growth/flowering/fruiting but would this still work if you used a 12/24 lighting cycle with e day being 24 hours and the night being 12 to 10 hours to trigger fruiting. If this is true, and I have researched it a bit and found no real info on this, (it was a rather light search) could a such a day night cycle allow for less light intensity being as effective as a more intense light over less time? So many trade offs here, I wish i had the ability to experiment with this, I am thinking of a small terrarium in a dark closet but where would you get a timer you could use to make the light cycle? Most if not all commercial timers are based on a 24 hour day length, I'm not sure how to get hold of a timer based on a 36 hour day. Any suggestions for a plant small enough to mature in a ten gallon aquarium?

Sometimes i wonder if I've lived far too long... 🦇💩🤪

Now that is funny!

I wasn't trying to say it was, but adults do have to adjust their lives to the school times and this is the real driver to this. Adults have fewer options, employers are not particularly welcoming to changing their business hours to make it easier for adults to get their kids safely to school. Parents are expected to change their lives to suit employers than the other way around. Yes some jobs can be done from home but most cannot and most blue collar workers are expected to change their lives to suit their employers. This question is more complex than most think, IMHO DST is more trouble than it's worth, in the summer if I want more daylight I'll simply get up earlier, I love to surf fish, getting down to the beach, setting up my equipment just before daybreak is an option I use with some regularity. If you are not free to decide what time you start your day then regular time would seem to be a good guide. Anytime you try to change something everyone relies on you will piss off some of the people to please some of the people.

After reading several posts in this thread I wonder how many commenting have kid schedules, and or work schedules, I may be misreading this but everyone does understand that the time changes for everyone not just the school kids... right? The main problem with dst is that the sun pays little to no attention to human clocks, while time changes do concern us and they should, I worked for DuPont, rotating shifts, I changed my schedule every 7 days and the only way I could deal with it was to live like I was on the same schedule as everyone else or to be more precise I had to live like my shift was always 8 to 4, I ate, slept, and worked as though I was always on day shift. I slept, ate, and worked as though every day started at 8am even though it could be 4pm or 12am. If the sun followed DST there would be no problem and no conflicts other than the ones we already have, if not for the Sun's lack of cooperation shifting back an hour should have no problems. Actually changing the time of school, work, or other activities would create problems for everyone... initially anyway. If we really wanted to maximize daylight activities then we would have to actually change the time we start our days and probably on a sliding scale as the seasons progressed. In the past we changed our work schedules with the sun, we got up with the sun and went inside when the sun went down if not go directly to bed, we knew the day length changed as the seasons progressed but we changed with it instead of trying to change the time. It seems to me at this point that DST as we know it now is the lesser of two evils in trying to fix this "problem" all the talk of starting school late or changing work schedules or relying on neighbors to take care of your kids is just not tenable in the real world. I feel you dude, SAD is a big part of winter life for me, I feel like I need to crawl in a hole and sleep for weeks... Goa?

The main problem was children waiting in the dark for school busses but the danger of standing on the side of the road in the dark in rural areas was real and why the winter DST was cancelled. There was a lot of discussion about this in my area many years ago, in the winter the sun rises much later than it does in the summer resulting in children getting up well before daylight. I'm not sure if this could result in sleep cycle disruptions but the difference in getting up before sunrise was disruptive, I was part of a group that supported the DST for the winter and I had to change my mind and go with EST in my paper to the school board. To me the children's safety was paramount and long bus rides in rural areas won the day for EST.

DST, in the winter, causes students to have to wait in the dark for the school bus in the mornings.

Good question, I have no idea, I was not asserting that we need to be looking into it but knowing the curiosity of humans I would be surprised if no one has looked into it.

The difference between how and why is how our technological civilization was formed, how is always important, why is often nothing but a subjective desire.

The question was how not why.

I know I am ignorant on this topic but I would be surprised to find out, that if no one knows how a charge creates an electrical field, that no one is looking into the problem.

I read it as the energy of expansion cooled into matter or at least that is how it was worded when I read it in several articles many years ago. The wording "expansion of energy" was "energy of expansion" is this significant?

Evidently the difference is that the starch is considered a more pure form of the root and the flour includes fiber, protein, and other impurities. IMHO it appears that the starch is what's left over after all the nutrients are removed but that is just me. Evidently there is a poison that needs to be removed as well but I have no knowledge of this. @Externet Were you aware of the poisonious nature of this flour or is this article mistaken? https://www.starchprojectsolution.com/faq/cassava_starch_flour_1137.html

The Blair Mitch project!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudaelurus or if you prefer a video description https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNrt90MJL08 Cats started out from a small animal that resembled this

Sadly I have to agree with you on this and the victims of this disease are anti vaccers!

Thankyou, I had first learned of this "interpretation" several months ago and the way it was worded and my own ignorance of the subject made it sound interesting. I had assumed it to be mainstream science, I wish such information was graded a bit when it is consumed by interested laymen like me.

I tried to find a source that didn't include a video but this is the best I could do on short notice. I'll try to find more suitable sources but the OP has not explained his own idea yet so I'll wait and see, it's possible this is his idea. https://www.technology.org/2021/02/28/does-time-cause-gravity/ https://mediaplayer.whro.org/program/pbs-space-time/e/does-time-cause-gravity-5hns3m