Moontanman

If you haven't read it how can you justify asserting what the book says? Read that as "not many people agree with me on what philosophy is or should be... How can science recognize something that cannot be measured Gees?

Thanks, ~80 km... over a time span of millions of years? I know we can measure rate at which mountains grow down to millimeters per year, depending on the time frame this would appear to be within our ability to directly measure. AFAIK no such global expansion has been detected... Billiards, do you have a comment on the torque such a magnetic coupling would have on the Earth? I know the interaction should have an effect on the orbital speed of the earth... The same way a magnetic field resists a wire rotating through the field and creates heat the Earth should resist the Suns magnetic field to produce the "heat" involved in expansion.

No Alan, a flame is not life, neither is a crystal, and the edge as you call it is not vague, I gave you a link to the definition for life. If you had read it instead continuing to strawman and argue from ignorance you would know your statement above is false...

Molecular hydrogen is being discussed as a possible greenhouse gas to explain an early warm mars. Other models using just CO2 and H2O do not result in a warm Mars with a dim Sun but adding molecular hydrogen might do the trick. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/11/131124200548.htm

The speed of light would pretty much prohibit that wouldn't it?

I can't seem to find an estimate of just how much over all expansion of the radius of the Earth needs to take place for this to be viable.

Good point, I thought you were referring to the disconnect we had over my analogy...

Not anything like the expanding Earth "theory" which postulates the Earth was the size of Mars 500,000,000 million years ago...

No arc, we have a communication break down, i wasn't suggesting the expanding Earth idea was part of your idea in any way, just trying to show that to propose something correlates with out a mechanism isn't evidence of a mechanism. The expanding Earth "theory" is silly and has no part in your idea and i wasn't suggesting it did... Unity+ it may very well be that you are beyond me in a significant way and I concede that possibility but I read it as showing an energy transfer was possible not that an energy transfer of sufficient magnitude was possible. Obviously an energy transfer is possible and as I said about Ganymede there is no reason to suggest it is anything but an insignificant effect in Ganymede's case or the Earth's... I'm not sure why Ganymede is somehow a better example than Io but I'll let Arc tell his own mind, i am not privy to his thoughts... Saying the magnetic fields interact in some fashion is a far cry from showing an actual physical effect on a planet enough so to allow heating of the planets core in a way that would result in the planet actually expanding and contracting enough to cause plate tectonics... That is a huge step and 38 degrees C isn't near enough energy on any level... Then there is the actual torque this effect would have on planetary orbital motion, converting the magnetic field to heat would result in physical forces other than just a tiny expansion and contraction of the Earth. I would expect an actual physical drag on the Earth's orbital speed... I would expect the tidal effects of the Moon to have far greater impact than the magnetic coupling of the Earth and the Sun... If my thoughts on this are easily dismissed then let me know and I'll just continue to watch and learn...

The whole expanding earth thing is silly on many levels but mostly because there is a better answer and no mechanism to explain how the Earth can expand in that manner. I think the idea first popped up after lord kelvin but I'm not sure but it still has it's disciples even today. Arc's idea, while not silly like expanding earth theory, still lacks some important bits not the least of which is the amount of energy it would take to have the effects he asserts.

So... In other words you have no idea if the energy necessary is being conducted between the sun and the earth only a pattern of correlation? Your example of Ganymede doesn't suggest how much energy is being transferred or what it's effects on Ganymede amount to. This is a potentially fatal flaw and needs to be addressed, a pretty good case can be made for an expanding Earth being responsible for what appears to be continental drift but there is no mechanism to allow the Earth to expand from the size of Mars to it's current size even though such expansion would explain many things. You have to have a mechanism to transfer the amount of energy your idea requires and you have yet to show that magnetic coupling between the Earth and the Sun can provide that amount of Energy... In fact unless I've missed it you have not shown how much energy it would take to accomplish the effect you are asserting... I'm betting that the torque from such a high energy effect would significantly slow the Earth in it's orbit over geologic time.. just a guess of course but it makes sense... but we would have to know how much energy it takes to cause the effect you are claiming so far that has been left out...

Don't go away mad Alan... if you would stop moving the goal posts you would see your questions have been answered, maybe not "conclusively" but while we know there are trillions of stars it would be foolish to assert a specific number as "the number"... Just like saying we know the exact way life developed from organic materials is foolish, no way to know for sure, but the evidence it was natural is very compelling...

That is kind of what I've always thought but I'm not sure plasma effects could exist in those circumstances, it did resemble some of the special effects I've seen in movies but it was so dim in comparison and those effects are not real but just effects. I'm not sure the real world acts that way... It certainly did seem to be associated with the rail road tracks and misty foggy weather... but the fog that night was minimal, just barely there and the night was very dark, no moon or clouds... many people reported seeing it but most reported never seeing it... it wasn't exactly reliable... The memory is 40 years old and not exactly clear now...

In the interest of fairness it should be said that of the five of us there that night only three of us could see the light and it was easier to see out of the corner of your eye then looking straight at it, it was so dimly red it was almost brown and it did not have well defined edges...

Just showing there could be enough energy transferred from the Sun to the Earth through magnetic fields would be a start. magnetism is not magic and cannot be invoked with out some justification...

If you are referring to the idea in Star Trek it requires some technologies (technobabble) that we simply don't have right now..

In case anyone was wondering who Jack Szostak is... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_W._Szostak

I understand the correlation but correlation does not equal causation, if the intense magnetic field and literal extreme high tension electrical current that runs between Io (I know you don't like the comparison Arc) and Jupiter is not of significance in the vulcanism on Io then I can't see the much weaker connection between the Earth and the Sun doing anything significant to the Earth. I think this one things needs to be addressed before the idea can go forward...

I'd like to see some evidence that the amount of necessary energy could come from magnetic interactions between the Earth and the Sun, if you can't show that then the whole idea falls apart...

I have videos in a three one hour lecture series by Jack Szostak that disagree with you...

This is very funny, LMAO... http://laughloudtoday.blogspot.com/2012/12/funny-prank-on-telemarketer-gotta-hear.html#.Uo_rqeLN6kw

Inner shell electrons being shared is a wild thought to me but I am limited to high school chemistry (which I did perfectly in btw ) but a very interesting development... http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=chemical-bonds-inner-shell-electrons&WT.mc_id=SA_WR_20131122 How many more predictions from Star Trek have to come true before it is canonized

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jadvt7CbH1o

I am going to devote my life to bringing swansonT down, he has far too much power.. DAMMIT, THAT HURT, WE HAVE TO GET THAT BUTTON AWAY FROM HIM FIRST!