Moontanman

So god is photons? The appeal to authority is kind of weak... I label water god.. fact are we all not made of mostly water? fact! I think i'll go have a bottle of god with a few impurities like alcohol and hops for flavoring...

Well then, if it's a "fact" then you shouldn't have too much trouble showing us some evidence of this "fact" other than your assertion it is a fact...

You are of course welcome to believe anything you want but no evidence supports that particular belief.

I disagree, we do know Alan's position and it is not well hidden in an agenda of science denial in nearly everything he writes. The question is a common one among science deniers across every forum I've ever been a member of. He phrasing of the question is straight out of science denier web sites like "Answers in Genesis"...

As for the OP, I think the question is loaded, it assumes something that is simply not true then asks for an answer based on that deception...

Yes, strong and weak, either you don't see any evidence for gods or you are sure there are no gods which of course means you need to show evidence, simply not buying what theists are selling is the default position and requires nothing in the way of evidence... BTW i am quite sure that God as described the Holy Bible is not real and i am prepared to back that up...

I've following this thread as well, I just don't see the energy flux necessary to do the job, Io was mentioned early on as an example but it is gravitational flexing that causes Io to be to active not magnetic fields... on top of that Earths expansion or contraction can be measured to very small increments, is there is evidence of this expansion/contraction?

Only if you ask it before you roll it...

I stopped eating rice and my sex drive sky rocketed, in fact nearly anything i do causes my sex drive to sky rocket... even sky rockets...

maybe not yet but I wouldn't bet the farm it will not be able to in the future...

I was perusing some of the more questionable videos on you tube today and ran across several nuclear warfare simulation vids. I know religious people are often painted as crazy but does anyone really think that taking out a city would cause the rest of the world to cower or to just use the occasional nuke? These simulations seemed to assert this eventuality but then i thought what fun would a video be if the first country to use nukes was turned into a radioactive parking lot? I just don't see the one batshit crazy nation holding the world hostage scenario as a viable option. kinda like me threatening to sucker punch a professional boxer, I might draw blood but it wouldn't be a significant impediment to him kicking the living shit out of me... Iran has a few nukes big deal, I have a BB gun my neighbor has a 12 gauge magnum, maybe if i shoot his eye out kid...

yeah well some us aren't super hackers, I only survive because i'm not interesting enough for anyone to bother with...

Two pages out of this... amazing! I did wonder why the pic wasn't a bit clearer, Curiosity is supposed to have all those super cameras and stuff...

This is just too damn good to be true, can we sat POTUS in Klingon? http://freakoutnation.com/2013/11/10/this-actually-happened-new-york-elected-klingon-general-martok-into-office-this-week-because-why-not/

Gee and here I was worried about the gov monitoring the web sites i visit... that must be one boring job...

I think you're going to have to give a bit more information before anyone can discuss this...

For me the bottom line is the danger of religion in all it's forms. Even moderate religions have crazy fringes and those fringes drive the religious obsession with wanting a theocracy. The more moderates seem to think why would government based on their version of their religion be a bad thing because they don't know what their religion actually teaches...

There is also the number of reactions actually occurring, It might be highly unlikely that a particular reaction would take place in the right place but when you have a test tube as large as earths oceans with trillions of reactions occurring every second even improbable events become a certainty. Personally IMHO I think life is a certainty given favorable conditions, Gold, in his book "The Deep Hot Biosphere" suggests that life is simply a natural chemical reaction that is apart of planet formation, complex life like us is the true extremophile with most life being much simpler than we see on earth today even in bacteria. Gold suggests that many bodies in our solar system developed life, probably all the terrestrial planets and many of the moons of the giant planets. Any place water and hydrocarbons interact on geological time scales. Some planets change in ways that eliminates such life like Venus and Mercury but others continue to have simple life though out most of their history. Gold suggests that deep inside most moons and planets life can and probably does exist,he even made a case for our own moon...

The question the OP asks is malformed to begin with, there are no odds involved, just chemistry and chemical reactions are deterministic, chemicals do not react by random chance...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life

Space shuttles do not reproduce and there for cannot evolve, you are the king of strawmen, I salute you and give credit where credit is due, should be an award for the most dishonest post using using strawmen.... This first post has so many strawmen as a important part of it's premise destroying them all would take considerable time and research that Mr. McDougall could have easily realized were bogus simply by judicious use of google but one theme he seem to be fond of insinuating if not outright claiming it is information. Whether claiming it could not come about by random chance to asserting no new information could arise with out an IDer to create the information. But thus is a strawman as well and IMHO one of the most used and most inaccurate of all strawmen. THERE IS NO INFORMATION IN DNA... NO CODE... NO INSTRUCTIONS INSERTED BY A SUPREME BEING...NONE! We have named DNA information or a code to make it easier for use to understand since we see patterns easily as part of the evolution of our own minds. Labeling DNA as information or a code just makes it easier to work with due to the way our minds have evolved to work. I hope the powers that be will forgive me for posting this video but it does make the deliema of information in DNA quite clear...

I do live in the deep south and churches vary from store fronts in strip malls to huge mega churches with tens of thousands of members. Atheists have lots to fear, from conservative news shows that advocate atheists having no civil rights to religions wanting to indoctrinate your children in their particular religious perversion in the guise of education. The perversion that is religion permeates every part of our society espousing lies and bigotry as part of gods plan and insisting they have the right to bully and even pass laws that strip citizens of their rights based on bronze age mythology. The separation of church and state is the only thing that protects us from religious wars and civil unrest based on "my god is better than yours" Religious is in a constant state of war against the rights of anyone who disagrees with them and claim persecution just because they can't persecute people who hold different supernatural beliefs or hold no supernatural beliefs at all. Atheism is not religion any more than a lack of belief in fairies is a religion...

FINALLY! Live dinosaur found in New Zealand, currently in the hands of the local zoological park! this is quite a find!

Robert Foot has suggested mirror matter could be the cause of the Pioneer anomaly... I can't seem to find an article I can access but these links refer to the idea of mirror matter being the causal element in the pioneer anomaly... I do have the book he wrote about Mirror Matter... I've exchanged several e-mails with Dr. Foot about Mirror Matter, the idea leads to some fascinating possibilities... maybe someone else can access the papers in the links... http://www.amazon.com/Shadowlands-Quest-Mirror-Matter-Universe/dp/158112645X http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_matter http://www.findanexpert.unimelb.edu.au/display/person14116 http://www.findanexpert.unimelb.edu.au/display/publication2924 http://inspirehep.net/record/561148?ln=en

Didn't you mean noob? No wait maybe nub was correct.... It's the blob getting ready to eat curiosity...