Moontanman

Uh huh.... So offering your virgin daughters to be raped by an angry crowd to protect angels is moral... give me a break...

Separate but equal never is, it wasn't pertaining to race nor is it pertaining to gender. Why do woman need to be protected if they are equal? What are they being protected from?

If we are going to continue to claim the bible as a moral guide and a history book this discussion is over, while some laws are based in biblical laws that does not make them moral nor does it mean they originated in the bible... The bible is a history book the same way Batman is a history of new york city... I will again address the OT, discussion with true believers is meaningless, when you fear eternal torment for stepping out of line reason and evidence has gone out the door... A normally good man can be motivated to do horrific things once he believes in eternal hell fire as a punishment for all crimes, minor and or major. The fix is in, following all 613 biblical laws is as near to impossible as impossible can be and hell is waiting.... and if your local religious authority tells you to kill your wife if she's not a virgin on your wedding night or kill her if she wants to talk about another god then if you really believe you'll do it... you have no choice eternal hell fire awaits you and her.... So few of the biblical stories have any moral value Sam it's difficult to understand why you would even consider asserting such a thing... Not to mention that the majority are the very antithesis of moral behavior...

That would actually be my point, religion must remain chained, it cannot be allowed to regain its former control over society, modern technology would give religion access to power that previous religious authorities only had wet dreams about....

So, you think the ten commandments predate any moral behavior and organized society? The ten commandments... four deal with how to worship god, one tells me not to covet my neighbor's ass, the other five are so damn obvious to anyone with even a tiny amount of empathy they should be self evident to any intelligent social species and in fact i would argue are the cornerstone of our evolved social behavior... ie hijacked by religion and hijacked quite recently, since the pentateuch was compiled around 2500 years ago. I agree, Obama recently sentenced all who vote republican to hell for all eternity... First of all a huge number of witches were burnt in places other than Salem over a very long period of time along with boiling Jews in oil for eating meat on a Friday, a huge number of tortures for various offenses from adultery to blasphemy, usually pointless and extremely long lasting and painful and various other atrocities that most men would never have agreed to without the threat of eternal torment. The vast majority of these people were no threat to anyone and in fact were often simply unlucky enough to run afoul of GOD... or his earthly representatives. Oh I am beginning to understand you...

You asked about earth's spin axis, that has nothing to do with earth's magnetic field or at least the magnetic field doesn't control the spin axis. As for the Earths magnetic field I'm sure that some very powerful magnets might confuse compass needles under the right circumstances over limited distances...

Have you read the ten commandments? Do you know how many of them really pertain to human moral behavior? Do you think it's really necessary to tell people not to steal and murder or lie and use ten commandments to tell those basic things? Do you think all religions teach that? Do you think that before religion hijacked those things no one had any idea about empathy? No, no one else can dehumanize you and threaten you beyond the grave, this is avery important point, please think about it... There was society well before there was the religions we know and hate love today... I admit that there is religion and there is RELIGION primitive religions did not have the power that the modern ones have and few of them if any threatened anyone who disagreed with eternal hell fire.... This is very important to understand, a man can be made to do quite a bit if he believes that even death cannot rescue him...

Your confusion is your own, I understand what iNow is saying. Yes religion can contribute both good and bad but the good that religion contributes has been hijacked away from natural human social behavior and all that is left is the bad behavior that religion actively promotes. In fact i would say that religion not only hijacks natural human altruistic behavior and claims it as being rooted in religion it also magnifies the natural behaviors that humans try to suppress as well as adding it's own evil... You can say wars are started by things other than religion and you would of course be correct but nothing can dehumanize the "other" better than religion and threaten you beyond the grave if you don't go with the religious demands for that dehumanization... Only modern secularization of religion has allowed the smiling ingratiating version of religion we see today, in places where religion is law it is more likely you find the same dehumanizing behavior that religion allowed itself to promulgate back the law was religion and religion was the law....

Of course not TR, it's probably still snowing where you are....

Awesome....

I admit to not having read his book yet but I have seen his videos and they were pretty much on the mark. His encounter with Ted Haggard was classic....

I don't know how to make this little flic play here but this is seriously funny.... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=490815927671395&set=vb.432290810190574&type=2&theater

I am reasonably confident that a science fiction piece will have no effect on the earth's rotation or magnetic field... In the real world I am almost as confident the human species is incapable of generating that much power right now and for the foreseeable future....

TR, it's your story, you can do what ever you want but make it internally consistent, anything can happen in your own little universe but be consistent....

Wow! Spend the night in the hospital and everyone goes gaga.... Let us take religion out of the equation for a moment. Let's say we have two groups of humans, one group believes the Earth is flat the other thinks it's oval. this disagreement is the source of much discord between the groups. The leaders of the two groups try to convince each other of the error of their ways and get no place. So they strive to drum up support among the masses to try and convince their neighbors to do the same but it's the end of the harvest season, many young people are coming of age, the coming long winter nights will be easier to pass with a warm body next to you so the leaders get no place with this either other that a few fights in local taverns by hotheads who really just want to fight to begin with and don't really care about what... Now let's insert religious belief, remember this is something the people really believe. The holy scriptures demand that unbelievers in the flat/oval earth must be converted, anyone who believes the wrong way will burn in hell for an eternity. each side is sure it's god is the one true god and not doing god's works will doom you to eternal hell fire. Whipping up a little army to convert the infidels seems like a good thing, especially since these gods make sure that having a warm body next to you in the long winter nights depends on approval from god. Add that god demands that unbelievers be killed and if you refuse there is that pesky hell fire for all eternity to worry about.... and the land of the infidels that refuse to convert can be yours for the taking... Whipping up a army of fervent believers isn't so difficult this time... Religion ruins everything.... Power corrupts... absolute power corrupts absolutely.... religion is the quintessential absolute power.... A government can make you do many things, torture you, jail you, enslave you, kill you, but only religion can threaten you beyond the grave....

Take me to your leader!

Yes, I agree the problem is in human nature and rule of law helps to protect us from that but rule by religion which is not much more than rule by emotion allows practically anything to be fostered on anyone you disagree with. We cannot afford to allow religion to regain the power it once had... Evil men do evil things, good men do good things, religion makes good men do evil things... You just might want to go back and think a bit about that bolded part because i think it proves my point.... If your last point is true then I can show the ebola virus is harmless the same way, if I send it to pluto it can't infect anyone there so it's harmless....

Now wait a minute... I thought the martians had tried to escape their apocalypse but had crash landed on earth and the spaceship had put them all in hibernation until modern times?

Exactly!

Dammit iNow, Puff isn't real? You mean I've been singing that song to raise Puff up out of the ocean all this time and he isn't real? Next you'll say Adrianna isn't real and the honor I enjoy of reciting poetry while the witches dance naked under the full moon isn't really for the benefit of the Moon Goddess.... Seriously, it has been suggested that i need to go out and talk to some of the majority of at worst harmless religious people who make up most of the religious in our land. No need, I have and do, you misunderstand my fear of the religious. I understand completely that most of the religious are at worst harmless cranks and most are the nice people next door that that rarely even talk about their religion other than the occasional "Bless her heart" or giving thanks around a special meal. But you don't have to look far to see these people are deeply divided, thousands of different sects, all of which disagree on sometimes minor and sometimes major points of dogma. They all now days say they all are Christians and then there are those nice "harmless" people who knock on your front door asking if you've heard the good news or know about a new testament of Jesus. Merely annoying you say? a little over 100 years ago Mormons were killing non Mormons and blaming it on the Native Americans, go back a little father and in the US Baptists were killing Catholics and Baptists or some other sect were killing Quakers and so on. Right now the radical fringes of our nice tame religion are gaining power. passing laws denying citizens rights based on religious doctrine, they do this because the nice tame religious people think the fringes are the same as they are and think that religion in schools and government, a state religion sounds like a pretty good thing. How could a religion based on the teaching of Jesus be a bad thing? They have no clue or choose to ignore the history of religion and how it acted when it had real power and didn't have to beg for attention, when it could demand compliance under the force of law and punishments were often quite harsh. We have these churches that used to be small insignificant crazies calling not that the end times are coming but that they should help them along, insisting the Holy Bible is the divine inerrant word of the one true god. Now these churches are huge and influential and driving not just public opinion but politics as well. Influential churches calling for homosexuals to be rounded up and killed. Passing laws to strip rights away from homosexcuals and anyone now married under civil law.Insisting that the bible be taught as "science" and stripping public schools of money and giving that money to religious indoctrination centers schools. Yes religion seems harmless but take a good long look into certain areas of the middle east where religion, law, and government are the same thing and being stoned or burned on a pyre still takes place, that is what Christianity used to look like and will again if it is allowed to regain power... I think I'm a time traveler from the distant future sent here to pass as one of the general population and at death my soul will be recalled to the future, where the technology exists to do such things, and I will be reinstated into a new body so i can recount my times as a member or your primitive superstitious society.... delusional?

GEV's generally only work over rather flat terrain, in fact usually the ocean, they are difficult to stop and take off, needing an airport type place to do either... Then it would be a train...

Where would you drive such a vehicle?

You should give some thought to this, if it doesn't have two wheels it's not a motorcycle, most modern motorcycles are limited more by tire technology than anything else. If not for this problem modern superbikes would currently be quite capable of 250 mph plus easily. In fact this one reputedly can already do this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Tomahawk While it technically does have four wheels it handles as though it had two and is for all intents and purposes is a motorcycle... Just how fast it is supposed to be capable of is disputed but 350mph + doesn't seem too far fetched and that is only because of the limitations of the tires and drag... not the engine... A hovercraft would not handle like a motorcycle or perform like one so would not be one. So write a good story, postulate a fast vehicle, but leave it to the readers imagination as to what it is exactly...

I've watched all his videos, but I've read none of his books, In his videos i see no inconsistencies or logical fallacies, in fact he gives religion quite a bit more leeway than i do...