Moontanman

It works out really well when you are defining sentience, I wonder what the elephants think of us... dangerous and cruel, stupid little creatures... cows on the other hand are just tasty.... I think it's interesting to try and conceive of what other animals think of us. Elephants are highly intelligent if somewhat different that us, they have social structure, pass down knowledge in a way that is similar to the idea of human culture.

No, I preeminently qualified, the abduct people like me all the time...

only your intestines know for sure...

I think it's demonstrable that elephants are smarter than hippos, what is your point ethically?

Not unless you like to eat paint...

Do you even bother to consider the evidence I have given you or is simply shouting I am wrong all you have?

No proofs here, only evidence which so far you have failed to give. many marine species went extinct at the K/T boundary, both small large in the sea as well as on land... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretaceous%E2%80%93Paleogene_extinction_event And yet as I pointed out above both microbiota and large animals became extinct at that time not just sea reptiles... citation needed for this what sun particles exactly? Not all dinosaurs bones are radioactive and their radioactivity is not connected with the K/T extinction event. the radioactivity comes from naturally occurring uranium and it's ionic affinity to phosphorous .. http://www.quora.com/Science/Why-are-some-Dinosaur-bones-covered-in-heavily-leaded-paint

I have been doing my best to provide evidence of my position all the while you provide none and insult me, what part of this sentence do you not understand? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

If we are talking about civilizations like our own, and this is where I think we are in agreement, our civilization would or could colonize the entire galaxy in a few million years given very little more technology that we currently possess. http://www.geoffreylandis.com/percolation.htp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Millennial_Project:_Colonizing_the_Galaxy_in_Eight_Easy_Steps I think this can be explained by another rout but the idea of "if they exist where are they is a valid question, I think it can be asserted with a reasonable amount of surety that civilizations are either very rare, very short lived, or rapidly evolve away from being detectable or understandable by us... or, and this is my main assertion quite a few times here on this forum, they lose interest in planets altogether in favor of artificial habitats.... this would allow many intelligence's to occupy the same galaxy with little interaction with civilizations like us... Please don't be insulting, I am trying to over come our communication barrier... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox http://www.disclose.tv/forum/galaxy-should-have-been-colonized-by-now-t66405.html

I was referring to detecting signal leakage at the distance to alpha centari, a directed signal would be much easier to detect. In fact a radio telescope like arecibo would be detectable across the visible universe and it has no where near the out put you are suggesting...

Ewmon Religion, particularly the Christian religion, fails morally in an absolute way that makes the idea that Christians are moral or derive morals from something other than the culture around them as just plain wrong. The idea of one punishment for all crimes is in of it's self immoral. The idea that anyone can be held accountable for crimes committed by their ancestors fails miserably morally. The idea that simply repenting wipes away all crimes no matter how horrific is amoral at best as well.... Ewmon, it may be easy for you to side step these issues but they are real and your religion fails to address them and in fact require you believe they are moral. This is beside the point of the gospels being disconnected from the life of Jesus by centuries and his teachings themselves being contradictory and immoral as well...

Notifications have stopped again....

Underwater "landscaping depends quite a bit on what you are keeping, for reefs lighting and water flow are two biggies, great water quality is wasted with out the lighting and flow being right. Coral cannot shed it's self of waste products without a good water flow and if the flow is always in one direction only it will cause the coral to grow misshapen and tend to die off down current. Coral requires very intense light of a color close to sun light at depth.

Working now for me as well... thanks.

Yes, everything else is coming through, sfn was until yesterday. Yesterday, about 24 hours.

For some reason i am no longer getting notifications of threads i am following in my e-mail, is this a site problem? I have my notifications turned on...

we're on the same page

I've had the opportunity to interact with some really intelligent people in my life, worked closely with one guy who was really out there but we had no problem communicating, it's not like intelligent people don't have interests that lesser minds share... I get the feeling you just want to be insulting...

It was more of a label of how our minds tend to think but i meant as opposed to counter intuitive mathematics ... yeah works for me... yes and when he does the same thing back to his starting point gets out and sees his friends aged 14 years and he has only aged two? He is going to assert that he only traveled 2 ly? once he goes back to his original frame of reference he has to see something is out of kilter... in other words he has a preferred frame of reference even if the universe doesn't

just for shits and giggles... I bet his biological brain... would after traveling the 7 ly at .99 c would still logically think of it as effectively traveling at 7c or forwards in time at at rate of 1/7 everyone else

Ok, now I have it... thanks. i think my main hangup on this was me swamping frames of reference and not realizing it. i thought you were saying one thing and i was saying something else. once i realized the time frame swap it became evident...

whoop te do my iq... I am unimpressed... by your best... if you must so arrogantly, dumb it down for me, i would say... we have little to talk about anyway...

So even though he traveled to a point he knows is 7 ly from his starting point he will only measure the distance he traveled as 1 ly when he gets there? He will look back at his starting point and it will only be 1 ly away when he stops?

I think i understand that part of it and I understand that frames of reference cannot be mixed but I still don't see why it's not effectively ftl for the guy on the ship. BTW I'm not getting notices of threads I'm following today, I checked my preferences and they seem to be ok, is something wrong with the site today?

It's an interesting proposition, I have indeed planned suicide, I know exactly how I would do it. For now far to many people would be hurt terribly if i did it but at some point that might change, possibly i have held off because i have two siblings I have never had sex with...