Moontanman

Ewmon Religion, particularly the Christian religion, fails morally in an absolute way that makes the idea that Christians are moral or derive morals from something other than the culture around them as just plain wrong. The idea of one punishment for all crimes is in of it's self immoral. The idea that anyone can be held accountable for crimes committed by their ancestors fails miserably morally. The idea that simply repenting wipes away all crimes no matter how horrific is amoral at best as well.... Ewmon, it may be easy for you to side step these issues but they are real and your religion fails to address them and in fact require you believe they are moral. This is beside the point of the gospels being disconnected from the life of Jesus by centuries and his teachings themselves being contradictory and immoral as well...

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Underwater "landscaping depends quite a bit on what you are keeping, for reefs lighting and water flow are two biggies, great water quality is wasted with out the lighting and flow being right. Coral cannot shed it's self of waste products without a good water flow and if the flow is always in one direction only it will cause the coral to grow misshapen and tend to die off down current. Coral requires very intense light of a color close to sun light at depth.

Working now for me as well... thanks.

Yes, everything else is coming through, sfn was until yesterday. Yesterday, about 24 hours.

For some reason i am no longer getting notifications of threads i am following in my e-mail, is this a site problem? I have my notifications turned on...

we're on the same page

I've had the opportunity to interact with some really intelligent people in my life, worked closely with one guy who was really out there but we had no problem communicating, it's not like intelligent people don't have interests that lesser minds share... I get the feeling you just want to be insulting...

It was more of a label of how our minds tend to think but i meant as opposed to counter intuitive mathematics ... yeah works for me... yes and when he does the same thing back to his starting point gets out and sees his friends aged 14 years and he has only aged two? He is going to assert that he only traveled 2 ly? once he goes back to his original frame of reference he has to see something is out of kilter... in other words he has a preferred frame of reference even if the universe doesn't

just for shits and giggles... I bet his biological brain... would after traveling the 7 ly at .99 c would still logically think of it as effectively traveling at 7c or forwards in time at at rate of 1/7 everyone else

Ok, now I have it... thanks. i think my main hangup on this was me swamping frames of reference and not realizing it. i thought you were saying one thing and i was saying something else. once i realized the time frame swap it became evident...

whoop te do my iq... I am unimpressed... by your best... if you must so arrogantly, dumb it down for me, i would say... we have little to talk about anyway...

So even though he traveled to a point he knows is 7 ly from his starting point he will only measure the distance he traveled as 1 ly when he gets there? He will look back at his starting point and it will only be 1 ly away when he stops?

I think i understand that part of it and I understand that frames of reference cannot be mixed but I still don't see why it's not effectively ftl for the guy on the ship. BTW I'm not getting notices of threads I'm following today, I checked my preferences and they seem to be ok, is something wrong with the site today?

It's an interesting proposition, I have indeed planned suicide, I know exactly how I would do it. For now far to many people would be hurt terribly if i did it but at some point that might change, possibly i have held off because i have two siblings I have never had sex with...

Normally I take your assertions quite seriously but this seems to be nit picking, the man will have traveled 7 ly in one year of his perceived time. This can be obfuscated any way you want but the facts of his travel is quite clear... If he traveled to a star 7 ly years away at .99 c he would experience 1 year of travel time, from his point of view effectively traveling at 7xc... stationary observers would of course disagree with him but his time frame is effectively ftl from his point of view... possibly i am not getting this but to say he would say he had traveled 1 ly due to his experienced time of one year would disagree with both stationary observers and his own observations once he got there...

You might have a point but I really don'y see why modern pathogens would be any worse than ancient ones...

As far as i know the soft tissue does not contain retrievable DNA and may not be the original soft tissue any more than the fossil bone is the original bone. A zoo like environment is probably closest to how it would be kept depending on how well it would socialize to humans.

just looking at the video and the coral growth suggests everything from sun light to tidal flow is replicated in that tank. i built a 3000 gallon aquarium years ago, it was freshwater but I managed to replicate tidal flow in it much the same way as the video but the video represents a tank in the 10s of thousands of gallons. Just the tidal flow would be very energy consuming... It's more or less circular shape would make it a little easier to do tidal flow but the lighting represents a significant energy debt as well. The water filtration probably takes place in a remote location. I would love to see the filter, i wonder if it's biological or chemical or natural. I like natural as much as possible but it takes up a tremendous amount of space. If the SPS corals are real, and they do appear to be real, then the planning behind this tank is ingenious... It would have to be set up for several years and be in near perfect balance for those several years.. Octopus used to be my main focus, they are not hard to keep with the proper equipment but they do represent a significantly higher bio load than a fish of similar mass...

you gave a link to a paper that suggested the ecosphere of the earth could be thought of as a living organism, not the entire earth or the entire universe... Oh and I cannot prove there are no invisible dragons either, doesn't make it any more probably they exist...

No, I am not suggesting he physically traveled faster than a photon in any time frame but from his point of view he has made a 7 ly journey in less than one year. This reminds me of a novel where society develops two branches, one of which travels back and forth between stars at very high fractions of c and they are separated out as different because the home worlds all experience time much faster than the constant travelers and so both evolve into different societies and it is hinted they speciate as well due to this...

I've been trying to follow this and I think i understand to some extent but I have to say that from the frame of the guy on the space ship he has traveled 7 ly in one year of his life... correct? Isn't this from his stand point faster than light? I may be confused i admit..

I'm not sure the soft tissue is relevant to this but lets allow it. I would approve of such a clone being created, I would have to say some strict guide lines would have to be followed but I personally would have no problem with it. A group of them would be more to my liking but even an individual erectus could teach some amazing things i am sure..

No, the universe is not a highly regulated environment. No, planets are not alive in any sense of the word any more than sand grains on a beach are alive. And yet life is not just random chemical and physical chnages... As far as we know the universe is expanding but it is not adding mass but your analogy fails even more basically than that, adding mass doesn't make something alive... Something external to the universe is nonsensical... And just as meaningless... And yet has no evidence to back it up, I think it's more reasonable that a brobdingnagian beast that feeds on dark matter and excretes universes is how universes are born... you can define life anyway you want to get the results you want but that doesn't make your definition evidently true... Fire fulfills most of your criteria as well but fire is not alive be the standard definition...

Where would you get the DNA?