Moontanman

I am going to have to say no on this one, it is far to unclear, it would take quite a bit more than this to even interest researchers, an blurry blob is not evidence of anything but a blurry blob...

BTW Sam, the Coyne helicopter incident is totally inexplicable unless it was a conspiracy of several people in two different and unrelated groups one group which was comprised of trained military observers who saw the purported UFO from a very close distance. Did you bother to actually read the report? http://www.nuforc.org/Coyne.html

I know this is off topic but I would love to know how this applies to warp travel... The proposed warp bubble effect seems to turn this whole thing upside across...

I use a cheap burner phone that I keep turned off most of the time so it won't annoy me but i do feel the need to join pop culture again, it left me behind years ago... yeah MTV...

Ok, my understanding was that time was distorted by speeds close to the speed of light not the actual distance...

The photo graphic evidence I've seen so far would need to be analyzed quite a bit before i would entertain the idea that it is footage of anything but lens flares... at best it is a blob that showed up on camera for a second or so, not exactly a screaming vindication of aliens intervening in the impact...

The stuff I do ie fish collecting in various places, swamps, rivers, the ocean, growing and hybridizing cacti, aquarium husbandry, would seem to be interesting to a quite small number of people. About a half dozen i know of and none of them tweet... I might look into this, does a twitter account cost money? Can any phone tweet? my knowledge base on this is quite small...

Are you suggesting that the distance of 7 light years is relative and not an actual distance?

I thought Tunguska level events were once in a hundred years but your link would suggest this is not the case. Your link suggests a 1 kilometer crater from the Brazilian event. But the specific wiki page doesn't mention a crater. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Tunguska

I don't understand tweeting, I doubt anything I do is interesting enough for anyone to care about knowing...

While he is moving he experiences one year of time while he covers 7 light years... how is this not experiencing 7xc?

maybe it was a giant pelican... come on Sam, why propose an impossible thing to explain an unknown just because the unknown is uncomfortable? In 1950 such a craft was impossible, the US government came to the conclusion that UFOs were alien space craft but the top guys were afraid to accept the possibility and squashed the report. citing something completely implausible to explain something else implausible accomplishes nothing... and as i said before the odds have nothing to do with it, it's like saying the odds of life developing on the earth from chemicals is so implausible it couldn't have happened, the odds of this are not a trillion trillion trillion to one, the odds of life developing on the earth is 1, it happened, if aliens are visiting us then the odds are 1 stubbornly saying the odds are trillions to one while aliens are flying around is silly... I will admit that a great deal of the UFO "culture" is stupid but ignoring real phenomena is just as stupid. Ummm.... he timed them over a known distance,in 1947 people could do simple math... who knew...

From the point of view of the guy in the space craft he has traveled at 7xC, is this not correct?

On yeah, my two favorites... The list divides all animals into one of 14 categories: Those that belong to the emperor Embalmed ones Those that are trained Suckling pigs Mermaids (or Sirens) Fabulous ones Stray dogs Those that are included in this classification Those that tremble as if they were mad Innumerable ones Those drawn with a very fine camel hair brush Et cetera Those that have just broken the flower vase Those that, at a distance, resemble flies

Is evidence of a new force carrying particle lurking inside the Earth? A new fundamental force is being explored this force the "long-range spin-spin interaction" could explain some of the processes inside our own planet. http://www.livescience.com/27324-earth-mantle-new-unparticle.html

Semjase you have to ask why would a UFO want to shoot down the meteor? Meteors of that size rarely if ever do much in the way of damage, the damage this meteor did do can be explained by it's mass and speed no ufo is necessary and then there is the question of how much energy would it have taken to explode this meteor and what would the effect of that had on the ground. I may not have the maths skills to show it but my instincts tell me that every would have to had gone someplace and such energy would only have made the explosion worse. But logically you would have to ask why the benevolent aliens did simply change the meteors orbit before it got close to the earth so it wouldn't hit at all. We could have detected it before it got close to the earth if we had the infrastructure to do so I would have to assume aliens capable of flying around an incoming meteor (that would be very difficult to do in terms of energy expended if nothing else) would be capable of shooting it "down" well before it entered the earths atmosphere...

yes, i understand that and yet Jesus said we had to follow the old testament rules, why do you keep ignoring that?

Again Sam, odds have nothing to do with this and while I know it's not proof it is obviously not a weather balloon. The picture was taken in 1950 Sam, jet aircraft were relatively rare, the object was 50 to 60 feet across it was not a drone or blimp. If it was the only such photo or sighting it could be seen as an aberration but it is not the only such photo, in fact there were at the time several photos of virtually identical objects taken around thew world. pelicanism: The assertion that something completely impossible can account for something unknown Kenneth Arnold saw several Metallic discs traveling at 1800 mph go past Mt. Rainier in a line. Ornithologists say pelicans often fly in a line and the sun can reflect off them so the objects must have been pelicans... flying at 1800 mph... I cannot prove that UFOs are alien space craft but I can show the phenomena is not explainable by any known means and the analysis the subject gets, like the way you dismiss it, is wrong. Any other unknown phenomena with as much supporting data as UFOs have would be a hot bed of research and study to figure out what was going on. UFO's however are ignored and ridiculed even though they cannot be adequately explained. I do have a falsifiable hypothesis that attempts to explain them but since the odds are so small why bother...

from my own post For instance, the following photograph was made back in the 1950's, there are two photos, the photos and the negatives tested. the best technology we have confirms this is an actual photo of a real object in the range of 50 or 60 feet across. The people who took it made nothing off it and had no motive to fake this in any way and in fact waited until the roll was filled before developing the photos not really understanding what they had taken a photo of. http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/section/topphotos/photo301.htm http://brumac.8k.com/trent2.html

Projection? you infallible book of moral values says you should... It hasn't been that long since they stopped ewmon killing each other over religious differences, a witch was tortured and burned in New Genii (sp?) just a couple weeks ago, a few years ago a 4 yo was beaten to death by the pastor of his church to try and drive out a demon... I bet I could go on for quite a time if I wanted to keep searching but it would be pointless because they don't believe the way you believe... exactly... ewmon, what you experience as christianity is the gelded version, christianity unchained has led to some of the most http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/18/papua-new-guinea-witch-burning_n_2709968.html i don't have a link to the death of the boy but it happened here in my town... i remember it well.... our secular laws prevent Christians from enforcing those uncomfortable to justify rules and moral demands like they used to....so sad to see the pires go away, a good barbecued protestant/catholic/wiccan/native shaman ymmm.... give me a break

Sam, again, none of those things could possibly account for the sightings i quoted, in fact those things are obviously not UFOs since they are identified.... UFO means something int he sky that cannot be explained after all possible causes have been taken into account... simply seeing something you cannot identify is technically not an official UFO until it has been investigated... A civilization that at about the same level as our own could conceivably colonize the entire galaxy in a few million years, an eye blink in cosmic time. Crop circles? Really? Crop circles? I thought you wanted to seriously discuss this Sam...

No Sam, none of the things you mentioned could possibly have applied to the cases i quoted. You are falling victim to pelicanism, where it's so important to show that a UFO is something natural that you will apply the most absurd explanation. My favorite was the "slow meteorite" explanation, i once read where a UFO was attributed to a comet, I'm not requiring that alien space craft be the answer but silly horse feathers isn't either and as i have pointed out the odds are meaningless and assumes quite a bit that is not necessarily true. Like: intelligent life forms only colonize planets FTL is required to colonize the galaxy The Earth is so valuable that any aliens who found it would take it over immediately. There is more but I think you can get my point from that.

please point out even one of those things that could apply in the cases i cited...

Again, please tell me what natural phenomena could account for the sighting I listed and they are not even close to being the best....

Ibiarge, have you read "Rare Earth" by Ward and Brownlee? If not you should... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare_Earth_hypothesis