Moontanman

Relativistic effects do not happen inside a "warp bubble". It is true that the amount of energy required was originally thought to be equivalent to Jupiter's mass now, at least in theory, it's just the entire energy output of the US for one year. There are other problems, anything inside the warp bubble would be exposed to a tremendous amount of EM radiation if they went past light speed and there is that little niggling problem with generating negative energy and mass... At slower than light speed such a drive would not expose the crew to unacceptable amounts of EM and it would put the entire solar system within easy reach of humans and the nearest stars with a reasonable transit time... there is a problem with hitting grains of dust at near light speed, a very bad thing...

How about some evidence to support what you have "heard"?

Please elaborate on what you mean by force field...

I suggested possibilities, you asserted speculation as forgone conclusions, big difference...

Not pursuing new technology is a mistake, such research takes up only a tiny fraction of what we spend as a nation. You are operating on a mistaken assumption that space travel research is enormously expensive and compared to what you or i make it is but compared to what the government spends it's a drop in the ocean....

I really don't see how you can assert that either, in fact i would suggest that intelligence would be selected for in the face of such ravenous predators... IMHO bipedality sets the stage for technological intelligence, troodons and oviraptors would seem to be pre-evolved for intelligence and we know from the fossil record that intelligence develops rapidly once bidepality, lack of natural weapons, the ability to manipulate objects evolves.

Rigney, are you aware of just how little money is being spent on the space program compared to the GNP? Compared to the military budget? BTW, this is what made your statement nonsensical "Instantaneous Transcendental Teleportation" what does transcendental mean?

Seriously, you think you can say how or what dinosaurs were capable or not of thinking? How can you assert they could not have been capable of language? Not capable of socialization? And I thought my position was indefensible...

I think you are making a critical error in your question, owning a gun does not equate to loving guns...

I think it would be more accurate to say that people who want to commit suicide gravitate toward guns as a method of suicide. If I decided it was time to check out hot having a gun would not prevent me from doing so. Sadly you do have a point about people who have guns using them irresponsibly but I can say most of the gun owners i know take guns very seriously but I do know a few that shouldn't be allowed to have a sharp stick. That needs to be addressed and it is not being done. I think it is too easy to get a gun but I don't think guns should be outlawed completely...

This is a more serious take on the idea than i expected, i am not the only person to make this connection, science, opinion, and fantasy... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur_intelligence This really isn't evidence but I think i might have to get this book... http://askwhy.co.uk/books/wholiessleeping.htm

Are you seriously suggesting that statistics can be applied to individuals?

I am well aware I am arguing from a virtually indefensible position, but I have gathered together enough information to say it is possible a species of dinosaur could have developed the intelligence to have some semblance of technology and it's entirely possible we have missed it in the fossil record so far. I've laid my cards on the table, it's a weak hand but not necessarily a losing hand, at one time not that long ago it would have been crazy to have suggested such a thing, now it's just unlikely. At one time the idea of continental drift was crazy, sadly the man who asserted it didn't live to see his ideas vindicated... I do not suggest i am of that caliber but i think I put together as good an argument as is possible at this time...

What has that to do with the idea of intelligent dinosaurs? In fact i think the idea that troodonts were so outclassed by the other predators of the time it supports my case, humans of today would lose in a struggle with hominids of 2 millions years ago as well... I don't think you can support any of these notions much less the part I bolded...

Considering how much monetary return there has been on the space program and how big a part of our modern society is based in waste of time and money called rocketry I can see your point...

these is something else similar to a sauna that doesn't use steam, i can't think of the name of it now but it uses dry heat...

That has got to have been a sauna...

No... I did not say that, you are putting words in my mouth, I said "troodonts did not leave any direct ancestors" No, while troodonts were indeed dinosaurs not all dinosaurs had the teeth and claws you mention, in fact troodonts were remarkably less well armed in that fashion than most other predatory dinosaurs... You are attempting to standardize a remarkably diverse group of animals and animals with virtually no brains have much better sense of smell than mammals or dinosaurs... I never said it was true for all dinosaurs troodonts in particular were not particularly specialized and some hominids were not weak or defenseless either...

My point is that no one could have predicted our extensive technological advances from the mineral magnetite. We put men on the moon with nothing more than the epiphany of "that odd stone picks up iron, I wonder why". Sometimes even tiny things can turn out to be vastly important, you indicated this avenue of inquiry was worthless, you cannot know that...

And birds are dinosaurs and theropod dinosaurs do have limbs free to manipulate objects, hominids didn't have much more of an advantage than this to begin with...

I don't think we can really say either way, the most honest answer is "we don't know" Again we cannot say that but recent discoveries do point to the possibility, before we figured out that bird brains are significantly different than mammal brains we could be quite sure that dinosaurs were almost too stupid to live but now we know that mammalian EQ is not an indicator of other animals EQ. Our bias toward mammalian brains and intelligence led us to believe that only brains of similar size, structure and complexity could be intelligent, this is now demonstrably false. In fact i would suggest that the humble octopus shows that in spades. The octopus lives only for a couple years, most live less than one year yet they can learn a task by watching another octopus perform that task. This was once thought to be something that only higher vertebrates could do. While I cannot assert that dinosaurs were intelligent as hominids I can assert it was within the realm of reality as we know it. The most important thing that can be taken away from this is that We have been chauvinistic toward mammals being more intelligent than other animals by default and we now know this is evidently not true... Nor is brain size an evident indicator of intelligence as well...

You miss my point completely and what is ITT?

Hmmm, what if electricity had been thought of that way, nothing will ever come of it, it takes far too much energy for it be useful... your link doesn't work btw...

Polar Bears cannot be endangered if hunts are allowed, a species of concern possibly but what does this have to do with the subject at hand? BTW i don't give two shits about polar bears, they are dangerous animals that will prey on humans if given the opportunity and Alaska is... different... they do crazy shit like trying to succeed from the union and hunting wolves from helicopters they are an aberration compared to the rest of the US...

You can't plan for stupid...