Moontanman

Mike, I am having trouble understanding what you are talking about. If this doesn't help then we need to further discuss this for sure. Calcium was part of the solar nebula, a very small part to be sure but once the dust and gasses condensed into our planet calcium was present in the crust as various compounds, Calcium Chloride and Calcium Oxide was probably a large part of it, it's doubtful that pure calcium was present, calcium is a reactive element and would seldom if ever occur as a pure element, these compounds would have been combined into various rocks. Weathering by rain and exposure to CO2 caused huge amounts to dissolve in the oceans ending up as calcium carbonate. Organisms and other natural processes pulled this Calcium carbonate out of the water to be deposited as rock. Is this helpful or did I get your question wrong?

Since we are obviously just dealing with opinions here, I think that sex enhances your life, mental concentration, ups your self esteem and has no harmful side effects. The links I provided would seem to indicate that ejaculation is a trivial event as far as cost to the organism, unless you can show that ejaculation contains some significant amounts of something the body has only in very short supply I see no way your assertion can be shown to true. You have no understanding of science or what evidence means, claims made by people who's philosophy centers around the glorification of seminal fluid as some sort of essence of a man and is in short supply is silly. Most of this idea that ejaculation is somehow bad thing also comes from religious people who have a problem with any sex that doesn't result in a baby. Intuition is meaningless in the absence of evidence... If you want to abstain from sex I say go for it but you have not given us any reason what so ever to think that ejaculation is anything but a trivial event that matters very little if any in the long term health of an individual.

I've looked for some internet info on this idea that semen is some sort of drain on the human body, so far the info is thin but what there is seems to indicate semen is not exactly a huge drain on the testes... http://goaskalice.columbia.edu/nutritional-value-serving-semen This looks a little better... http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_nutritional_content_of_human_semen This content would seem to be a negligible loss. More below... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semen This seems to cover it... http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_the_loss_of_semen_due_to_masturbation_drain_away_vital_energy_causing_weakness_in_the_body_and_penis There is no argument here, you are asserting that masturbation is bad and making unsupported claims about the essence of a man and how semen is somehow a huge drain on the body when in fact the content of semen is negligible. you make an insinuation of somehow any one who masturbates is somehow inferior to those who do not then make a thinly veiled attempt to show that somehow people are promoting masturbation, as though that was something horrible. you say as though that is common knowledge... how about showing us some of them? and I'll stop being a bore...

Really? Masturbation defenders? Are you saying there is a group of miscreants who defend masturbation?

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I've been on both sides of the unionization coin, not an easy choice when dealing with dishonest people on both sides...

and yet I had prostrate cancer... hard to imagine how I could have ejaculated any more often... anecdotal i know... I hope this is relevant, if not it is funny...

And your point would be?

yes and they tend to want to push their horse feathers on everyone else as though it had some meaning in the real world... not cool...

you using the word "food" rather loosely aren't you?

benefits of sexual abstinence... let's see... ummm err ahhh, Hmmm wait i am sure there is one... drawbacks to sexual abstinence.... easy peasy... no sex.... yeah! it's sex for the win! yeah...

Try this book, it is fiction but written by a scientist... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon's_Egg

I'll take a Rubin on pumpernickel please... There are no absolute answers, absolute answers imply the end of investigation, always a bad thing, it stifles progress... What if we had accepted the absolute answer of what lightning is? Divine intervention? Then we can't even conceive of preventing a stroke of lightning much less design devices to protect us from it... That oak tree must have really done something bad for god to have blasted it with that stroke of lightning...

No one is asking for absolute evidence, empirical evidence is what is asked for and you have none... you make outrageous claims, easily refuted btw, as though they mean more than the reality around us. Science has lot of evidence, evidence is what science is based on, theism however has nothing but the claims of charlatans, snake oil, horse feathers, bull butter but no evidence at all. Science does have evidence but lets get real, we are not really talking about science, evidence or even reality, we are talking about hopes, dreams, feelings, and fear of death. We are talking about the methods used by primitive humans to control each other, tribesmen in a one up man ship game of I am better than you because my god is better but no wait my god is better, no mine are, "neener neener neener" childish drivel taken to the nth degree... used so many times to justify the dehumanizing of the other people and you dare to suggest that science is doing the same thing by providing real answers to questions that were long answered by "my god did it" Science isn't not absolute but it is based in a real world we can measure, touch, and see... not a fairy tale for adults... I beg your pardon? Please clarify how my language is indecent? I can give you few indecent remarks if you like that would be even more accurate in describing your position... as far as restraint.... we have been past that point for some time now don't you think?

I don't feel bad for him at all, he wants to devote his life to a fairy tale made up by primitive humans in the absolute absence of any evidence and thinks this fairy tale is more important than reality he deserves what he gets for his efforts... NADA

I am more than a bit insulted by that, I worship stone because i don't agree with your opinion? I do not worship anything, I think the very concept of worship is degrading, I do not believe in the supernatural, I see no evidence to support your stance, you have given none what so ever.

I understand your point, but if God was just messing with minds here then the miracle didn't actually involve anything but illusion then did it? Sounds a bit closer to Satanic than God. But that is irrelevant, this is a science site and even in the religion section you have to back up assertions with evidence and that was just someones opinion of what happened. A more reasonable assessment is that a large groups of people observed a sun dog or some similar atmospheric phenomena (I've seen Venus dance in the sky due to inversion layers) and mistook it for a sign from god during a very traumatic time in their lives. I have looked into the Fatama thing many years ago ( I used to be a UFO buff... still am I guess) and there is no empirical evidence anything happened there that was super natural but that a natural event was mistaken for the supernatural. (no UFOs either... ) still just an opinion of course... You were not rude, but if you read the rules you would see why you needed to at least admit it was your belief that Fatama represented a supernatural event, not that it was, but you would need more evidence to sway most here that direction.

Quite the contrary, the sun did not dance at Fatama, the sun cannot dance, if it did the entire planet would have been able to see it not just one small place... Take the time to think it through, if god made the sun stand still or dance or what ever everyone would have seen it, it would have been recorded be every astronomer on the planet... major failure your link is just more hogwash backed up by horse feathers... it's called apologetics, twisting the truth to make it appear to mean what you want it to mean so you can support something unsupportable... if god can't be any less obtuse than that then he is sorely lacking in communication skills...

This is demonstrably not so, chop off your arm, your "I" remains undiminished, take out an equally massive amount of your brain and your "I" vanishes while your body continues... Your "I" is how your brain makes sense of it's sensory input, it has no independent existence...

How is this any different than the poor babies who think they should succeed from the Union because they can't get the vote to force all their control issues onto others? Play the game my way or I take my ball and go home... It would be the beginning of crazy, young people would tend to opt out, old people would scream to included once they got old and realized what a mistake had been made. Do you let citizens die because they were foolish enough to opt out (many would you know due to it being cheaper) turn them away from medical needs? I remember being young and thinking I didn't need insurance of any kind, fortunately i was working for someone who provided those things for free as part of my wages, later on after I saw how much money I was saving by having insurance I keep it going long after i was paying for most of it. it seems to me that both conservative and liberal ideals mostly orbit around what they should require people to do, it's a lot more complex than that in the real world but the basics of it are in there. Freedom and responsibility don't really figure into it except on a ideal non real world model...

Cthulhu lives! I would say the current domination of nature by humans seems to negate your basic premise that humans are helpless. We are not helpless and become less so as time goes forward... Bite your tongue ACG52...

awesome swansonT, i love listening to that guy...

If all babies were indeed perfect or in some way made any different than alley cat kittens or baby rats you might have a point but human biology is no different than any other animal and natural processes account for all of nature and the variation with in. God really doesn't figure into it much less be the only way such things could come into being.