Moontanman

Telepathy, all aliens can do that... Induced hallucination That might do it... Of course it makes sense Mr Anderson... Actually you have a healthy skepticism, I bet most people would settle for the beings in post #9

Dr. Ziplock: Do something, you're the pilot! Blaznee: How about if I eject?

I heard that examine was a bit less than descriptive of what actually happens.... BTW, Spaced invaders is very funny.... "3d and driving don't mix kids"....

Watch "Spaced Invaders" to find out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaced_Invaders "Who died and left you in charge?... Captain Bipto"... Careful, I hear it involves being polled....

That's why the Trinitrotoluene award is so much fun!

I think chilled_fluorine should win the poll and get the coveted Trinitrotoluene award... "here let me light that up so you can get the full effect" Quote from "spaced invaders"

They always say to relax, tell you that it's only natural, that everyone does it, but being polled always hurts...

Very good comparison...

I have read many books about gods and what they are or like or might be but this book and one trilogy are the best IMHO... http://kencyr.wikia.com/wiki/God_Stalk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaea_trilogy

I'm not convinced we would notice... if the true percentage was taken up....

Yeah, that would be pretty convincing but this idea does kind of beg the question of how would you judge a being or group of beings that claimed to be gods...

The code is created by a mind... ours, DNA is only a code because we call it a code, it is really chemicals that direct the actions of other chemicals, if you wanted you could call the way various shapes of shells are sorted out by ocean waves a code that represents the waves themselves but I wouldn't say the waves were created by a mind but the idea it could code for the shapes of the waves is created by a mind... ours...

How many times did he punch you? I've heard this argument for years, some of them actually asserted that when Jesus comes back he will bring back any animals that are nesesarry.... I honestly don't understand that point of view at all. I once actually came to blows with a guy who was fishing on the pier one night and was killing all the baby sharks he was catching, some nights they are caught by the hundreds, he was convinced that sharks were dangerous creatures that lusted for human blood and that he was saving peoples lives...

I have a dream, that one day Americans will vote with their intellect and not their emotions, one day politicians will be judged not by which religious agenda they support but by reality... I have a dream... but lately it's been a nightmare....

I'm not sure what you mean by this...

No that's not what I am saying at all, my fault for the less than accurate title but what I am suggesting is not comparing God to Star Trek, that would be silly. but indeed if it turns out that all planets with life are identical or at least so similar to earth they have the same species of plants and animals to the extent that humans and humanoids from those planets can mate due to their DNA being so similar it would indicate some guiding influence. I just used star trek as an example of what I would show as an example of a intelligently designed universe, or created by a god or gods. I am not trying to replace religion with star trek....

I was thinking more along the lines of the life on other planets being exactly the same even to the species level, in Star Trek Humans can mate with and have children with many of the other humanoids the DNA is so similar. Plants are so similar that even on a planet never explored medicinal plants can be identified due to being the same species as plants on Earth. If life on other planets was the same as life on earth down to the species level, sycamore trees were sycamore trees and oak trees and pine trees, a very boring prospect IMHO, wouldn't it indicate a common creator for them all? Just a random idea from a late night Star Trek marathon...

The water in the new house was full of hydrogen sulfide and devoid of oxygen not to mention containing sulfur dioxide, I was in a hurry to move and simply didn't test the water parameters. They are great fish, but the need a tank with 3' wide by 8' to 12' long foot print, height should be around 2' or more. Shovelnose sturgeon are next on my agenda. If I can find a few fingerlings... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shovelnose_sturgeon

I have often been asked what would it take to make me believe in a God, Gods, or Goddesses and i usually use the flippant answer of make the sun stand still in the sky or move planets around but if you really think about it advanced technology could conceivably do that. Another idea is that if the universe really turns out to be not only life friendly but actually allows for FTL space travel but being life friendly and allowing for FTL space travel is also not proof of the divine. But what if we find out that space travel is easy, FTL is easy, say some unknown zero point type energy allows for it and we find that not only are Earth like planets common but that they are truly Earth like down to the species of plants and animals we see on the Earth or have fossils of on the Earth and humanoid beings most of which are as human as we are dominate all those planets, much like the Star Trek Universe! Now that to me would be, if not proof, then suggestive enough for me to believe there is a divine hand guiding the universe. The Star Trek Universe is a creationist universe!!! What say you?

How do you keep it from catching on fire and burning up?

I have to admit I am a Trekie, I'd rather a janitor on the Star Ship Enterprise than POTUS...

While watching episodes on net flix last night I realized yet another connection between politics and Star Trek. In the old show the Klingons were supposed to be the Soviet Union not so thinly veiled but i was watching Voyager and realized that the Ferengi are a satirized version of the Republican party! Anyone else notice such comparisons between various races in Star Trek and our reality? I have been trying to figure out who the Romulans are but so far no sure ideas. of course there are many.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Trek_races Of the many of course just a few are described in detail. Vulcans Borg Andorians Betaziod Cardassian Orion The list is long but how many are really just parodies of countries or political parties we already have? I know I'm bored...

Actually it's not that difficult but I lost several to bird predators and a couple to equipment failure. Moving took out a couple more, it's difficult to move fish sometimes and the water quality in the new house was horrific. The learning curve on new fish is sometimes quite steep, I had never attempted to keep these fish before and the current wisdom about them proved to be mostly wrong which didn't help much.

Yes, the last paddlefish is doing well, he eats enthusiastically, and will eat smaller fish despite the common knowledge they only eat microscopic creatures. I wonder about the small aquarium, how stable it could be, anyone could put tiny fish in a tiny container for a few hours or days but how does it do long term? I breed fish called mosquito fish, they are less than one inch long as adults and have live young. I have kept them for short periods of times in containers that only held a fluid ounce or so of water. Still it was nice that he had plants in it as well.

This is a very serious charge, while I don't doubt your veracity I do doubt that this is either wide spread or necessary but it is something that could be changed and should be. I would get behind any movement to stop such an atrocity. I grew up on a farm, any animal that was killed was killed as cleanly and quickly as possible. On the other hand I have no problem with killing to eat, we are animals and historically hominids that were vegetarian died out while hominids that included meat in their diets went on to evolve into us, we are omnivores, we evolved to eat meat and certain parts of plants, we cannot for instance eat grass or most leaves from trees. Most vegetation is inedible to us, we are also not apart from or separate from the ecosystem of this planet, we are the top predator, we are evolved in such a way as to require meat in our diets. This only partly true, cows, I don't know why we are just focusing on cows, but cows routinely graze on land unsuitible for farming and eat vegetation humans cannot eat. Again this is only partly true, cattle commonly are grazed on marginal lands, hill sides and flood plains where humans do not normally live. This is a problem, I think the use of antibiotics in this way should be stopped immediately. Humans, when fed a vegetarian diet expel methane on a large scale and for some reason so do old men no matter what they eat. As do I...