Moontanman

Malevolent Moronic Misleading Mormon Myths

But where do you draw the line? While the example you give is ludicrous there are far more who do the very same thing but in a far more subtle manner who are rallying their "troops" to fight for control of our government, our culture, our lives. This i can understand but you do seem to have one fact wrong, I'd like to see some support for the bold above. I do understand the sirens call of religion and it's promise of life after death. hell if you want a really good life after death religion join the "Mormons" if you are male you get lots of perks, unlimited brides in this world... well only for the fundamentalists, but you get your own planet to make in your image and people it with as many of the kids all your wives can have.... lots of sex evidently.... I understand this as well, the effects we have on the universe will last for a long period of time, most will merge with the rest of the world and be muddied out beyond any possible recognition but they will still be there. If all who believe were reasonable humans with no need to control and change reality to suit them and their broken ideals and goals I could see why you would think this way TAR2

Ass/u/me immortal, I always hated that bullshit way of showing how to assume is not a good way to accurately know what is going on around you or in other peoples heads but it's still relevant... Actually there are creation myths associated with various beings, faeries, elves, etc, and demi gods and even other less well specified beings. At one time nearly all had extensive writings to back them up in some way but other religions came along burned the writings and suppressed the old religions until all we remember now is the silliness of them and we forget how serious they were taken at one time. We know that doesn't work immortal, it has been tried, most obviously was when exploration of the understanding of the natural world was tried the supernatural never worked. Even though at the beginning it was assumed that the supernatural defined reality but the closer we looked the less and less there was room for the supernatural until finally the concept of the supernatural had been driven into the tiny gaps that science hadn't managed to fill yet and those spaces keep getting smaller and more and more difficult to find but people never seem to tire of stuffing the concept of god into smaller and smaller spaces while continuing to conflate the power of god beyond any reasoning. The first concepts of god were quite small and fractured but we have combined all the old gods and other supernatural being into one uber galactic super being we cram into infinitesimally small places... What about those who are actively pushing to change laws to allow them to control and cause harm to other people and society at large? Do we just ignore them and allow them to control the rest of us through guilt, shame, and fear biblical law?

A large number of them think they are going to be the exception. Raptured strait to heaven, I see bumper stickers all day long that say "car will be unmanned in case of Rapture" They think they get saved, everyone else dies in a spasm of evil run a muck while they get to watch from the best seats in the house.... it's really an odd point of view....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jadvt7CbH1o

Don't worry boogie boy, we're all Devo....

So it's "heads i win, tails you lose?

This paper is interesting http://www.genetics.org/content/156/1/297.full It would appear that there is on average 175 mutations per person in each generation. I've read lower and higher estimates, most quote a rate of about 130 per generation if i remember it correctly.

Of what creature? Any rate you get would be an estimate... you'll have to post the link but I'll have a look and see what i can get from it.

I know some groups aren't so secrete about paving the way for the end of the world, some religious fundamentalists are actively promoting bringing about the end of the world they consistently warn us about...

You do realize this is not unique to humans and has been seen in other animals?

A Christian communist? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism

sammy7 I see no reason to give you more links to ignore...

I'd like for you to elaborate on how this paper in anyway supports your position? well you know what opinions are like...

That has to be the most faulty reasoning i have heard in quite some time, they can't believe the past because they weren't there? They weren't there when Darwin was alive, they deny the facts about something because we didn't see it but then they double down and go for justifying it by citing something from the past that they weren't there for either... and why does everything look so old, check out to be so old via multiple methods? did god misrepresent it on purpose? yes that 9th commandment again, pesky thing that...

sammy7, you've been given actual literature in the other thread, you chose to ignore it and keep on making dishonest assertions and quote mining, your videos are the worst sort of quote mining. Your creationist premise is dishonest, I have pointed it out to you many times already, you are not the least bit interested in anything but asserting your dishonest world view... At the 11:30 the guy with Dawkins in the last tells a lie and then doubles down and lies about the evidence for it and continues to spout that lie... classic dishonest creationist...

TAR2 are you really asserting you knew that deer's thoughts? You exchanged a look, you were driving a car, it's doubtful the deer was even aware a human was behind the wheel. I honestly understand the feeling you had, it was in fact a feeling, something that originated in your brain and no place else, but to assert it as objective truth is really stretching a point...

No one says it started and stopped in the past sammy7, in fact it is true that evolution is going on all around us all the time, you have been given many examples of this which you choose to ignore instead of addressing them. Again you make a claim which is not only not true but it is an intentional falsehood, I guess you didn't watch the foundational falsehoods of creationism video series i suggested....

I watched it too sammy, did you watch the video posted by asinine cretin? it shows just how dishonest that creatard video was. Seriously sammy7 when are you going to learn that creationism is nothing but lies propped up by more lies? Believe what you want, even if it's lies but asserting it as the truth is yet another lie as well...

Well considering that so far your level of dishonesty seems to be limited only by typical creationist lies and so far you have failed to make even one point by honest debate or discussion and you have shown no honest evidence i suggest you continue on sammy7, continue to break every rule on the site, continue to be dishonest, i love it when a creationist violates the 9th commandment, I'm sure god gets kick out of it...

Thanks, i am familiar with the video, i was trying to get sammy7 to show his dishonesty one more time. Dawkins wasn't stumped he was pissed off and I don't blame him... Creationist dishonesty knows no bounds...

No, if you want me to watch a video put a link on here, so everyone else can see it. It's bad enough you ignore all the evidence presented to you and you spread outright lies about the subject we are discussing, i will not do the work for you, and i doubt others will either, I and everyone else provide links to information we want to present, you do the same...

What video above?