Moontanman

We are not talking about the average of the entire batch of distillate only the first gallon or so. Take a big swig of it, I know the moonshiners wouldn't, if they won't it's pretty good bet you wouldn't want to either. Thanks but I think I'll get my tequila at the liquor store, quite a bit cheaper and tastes better than anything I would be likely distill. I have considered making cherry moonshine... but lack of money for good distillation equipment keeps me from it.

How can you tell which ones were invented and which ones are real?

It is evidence that humans created god in their own image.

Lacking evidence the logical choice is to withhold belief until such evidence is produced.

Because god always seems to forbid the very things the person who worships it thinks should be forbidden.

I can't find a conversion to allow me to see how 27mg of methanol compares in volume or weight to 30ml of ethanol. Or how much methanol is contained in the first run off of moonshine made from corn compared to ethanol in the same run. https://toxedfoundation.org/methanol-toxicity/ I'm not a chemist John, neither was my grandfather, I did get some high school chemistry but my grandfather only got the 6th grade. He was lucky considering the state of the WV school system in the 1910,s. But considering your cavalier attitude to methanol I think I'd rather drink my grandfather's shine than any you would make.

I only know what I was told while helping out the moonshiners. Where do you get that methanol shouldn't be there?

So the fear that Ukraine might defend itself by counter attacking Russia via conventional missiles fired at, oh say Moscow, to give the oppressors a taste of their own medicine cannot be done because Russia is too powerful allows Russia to pretty much invade any country they want? Hey if Biden launched an attack against cuba it would be wrong to say the USA did it? If i remember correctly the missiles to reach Moscow are being sent by Iran. I think that allowing Russia to be immune from attacks on their territory only emboldens them to attack other small countries. This precedent would increase the danger of nuclear war IMHO!

All I know is that when the first run starts methanol is the first liquid to come off and the moon shinners know how to tell the difference. It was shown to me as a difference in the way the fluid looks when you shake it up. I was a kid and I have no idea if what I was being told was true but it certainly looked that way. I watched them collect the fluid and shake it up to see how much methanol there was compared to the ethanol, the methanol laced fluid was poured out on the ground. What you say makes a lot of sense but having been there done that something is wonky, methanol is claimed to be removed in the first few quarts of distillate. Moonshiners say they can tell methanol from ethanol by observing the liquid while shaking it up. I was under that impression that ethanol was the antidote for antifreeze specifically ethylene glycol https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324807#what-is-antifreeze https://diydistilling.com/how-to-avoid-methanol-when-distilling/ I may very well be mistaken on the shaking up thing, in fact I am almost certain I am, it has been more than 50 years for me but now that I have given this some serious thought I think the shaking up thing is part of testing for the level of ethanol to water. Not really sure, I spent a lot of time around stills but never really ran them. I did use my dirt bike to ferry supplies to the still occasionally... um what is the statute of limitations on this?

So... Russia invades Ukraine, destroys population centers and Ukraine is supposed to just confine the war to their territory? Russia knows any use of nuclear weapons will bring down hellfire on their own cities so they use this threat to stop Ukraine from defending itself?

As any good moonshiner knows the first quart or so is methanol but after that it's ethanol. You can see the methanol in the first quart or so by the density differences in the two liquids. I have been there done that.

Has the possibility of Ukraine firing missiles into Moscow been discussed in this thread?

The first quart or so of the first run is poured out because It can contain methanol after that it is almost pure ethanol.

There are ways around that. Here is the law as i could find it, interestingly only New Zealand and Russia allow for home distilling for personal use and some US states have laws set up that would legalize distilling for personal use if it became legal Federally but here is the law in my state NC. https://www.distillate.org/laws/North Carolina#:~:text=It is illegal to distill,and not for personal use.

Hmmm, are you sure about that? I checked, you are correct but permits can be obtained to produce distilled spirits, not sure how much they cost. I was skeptical because I know several people who do it or have done it small scale. I know a guy who makes some great rye whisky!

I can hear them as well... or at least i have, it's been quite a few years since i saw a bolidide but you never know.

My grandfather was a moonshiner!

You insult us all by suggesting all we need is god and a good talk with a priest, you also suggest we do not know the origins of belief in a god or gods. My wife and I volunteered at a church as cooks, we cooked every sunday for the homeless, actually my wife was the cook, I was just her sioux chief, but we had a great time attending that church. Great people, I particularly liked the Pastor, we cooked up some really fantastic meals for the homeless until the city shut us down. My point being is that Atheists are part of this world, we, quite often, are atheists due to our understanding of the origins of belief in god or gods and your remark is insulting. Now... your near death experience is indeed yours, no one else's and until you can actually show your experience to someone else your personal experience is just that... personal. Personal experience is not evidence of anything. For me it is sad you were so easy to sucked back into religion... to me that would indicate your understanding of religion is flawed but your mileage might vary.

I regret the change to plastic packaging! Glass bottles and metal tins were the best!

There is the problem of radioactive isotopes being released into the flue glasses. I have read that over time a coal fired plant releases significant amounts of uranium and thorium into the air. If you are flowing flue gas through a greenhouse would it not result radioactive contamination over time?

Best car commercial ever! Why we really never went back to the moon!

Put your computer in a metal trash can and ground the can to the earth. Actually modern military equipment is hardened against EMP.