Moontanman

I can see what you are saying and i readily admit to a pretty extreme bias but in my defense i do live in the middle of the bible belt, i see this stuff every day. i am bombarded everywhere I go by people who when meeting you the first thing they want to know i where you go to church and if you don't they you are fair game to them, you need to hear the great news....

Not significantly in relation to the Earth... It does, I'm not sure why you would think it does not...

You are correct, it is indeed a part of many fundamentalist movements in Islam, Hinduism, Seiks, the list is long and depressing.... But in the US it is a movement with some real power, all you have to do is look at the winners the republicans have trotted out for president... I see it as more of an effort to inject religious fundamentalism into our schools curriculum...

Creationist also commonly assert that Darwin is the Prophet of Evolutionism and that we Evolutionists worship him the same way they claim to worship Jesus... Sometimes they also call us Darwinists... Talk about projection.... it's all used to paint the theory of evolution in a bad light because they just can't believe a dog can give birth to cats or that an ape gave birth to a human which is what they assert Evolutionists claim...

I disagree, words have meaning and the meaning is all about context, in the context of creationism the term evolutionist is demeaning, it is an assertion that evolution is a religion, a belief system that relies on faith. Taken out of context evolutionist is just a word, it could, in the right context be used to describe someone who thinks that the evidence for biological diversity is best explained by the theory of evolution. Creationists use the term Evolutionism to describe all of science from the big bang to stellar processes that create stars and galaxies, the synthesis of heavy atoms, to the origin of life to the complex life we see around us today. Evolutionism, a faith based belief system that has no evidence to back it up what so ever, they describe people who hold this belief to be evolutionists, in this context it is an insult. If someone I know well calls me Indian I understand it can be a term of endearment, and while not entirely accurate it can also just be a descriptive term, only someone who knows me well could possibly know why it can be used on me and the word is not demeaning. But if some one uses it as an insult the word becomes an insult, in the context of racism Indian can be an insult. In the context of the OP evolutionist is indeed an insult....

Not officially but the religious right, the really fundamentalist ones, like a great many of the popular evangelicals do espouse those views some secretly some more openly but the under lying message is very common in fundamentalist churches. This movement is not new, it has been around a very long time in one incarnation or another, the latest group has it's origins in the early to mid 20th century but it has existed in various forms since very early in the history of Christianity. The 700 club is a very good example of how this message is subtly and sometimes not so subtly delivered to people This makes it sound less than sensational http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism But this type of thing is very common and popular. http://www.endtime.com/ The sites that assert this crap on the internet are innumerable, TV and internet it's self has been a big factor in allowing it to gain far more prominence in the society of the religious in the US... If I had a dollar for every church service that has asserted this crap I would be the wealthiest man on the planet. Some members of my family are deeply into this and one of my sons was deeply troubled a long time because his grandmother took him to her church to hear this stuff. It's disturbing and has to be experienced to be believed by most rational people even many Christians deny it is even happening but the movement with this stuff at it's core is what creationism is all about. Most churches only assert this stuff during church services and seldom assert it in the public domain, it is scary and was a big part of why i just can't give religion in general any credence. Even the more main stream churches often refuse to refute this stuff, preferring to ignore it due to embarrassment as though it will go away if they just pretend it is is not real.

The religious fundementalists are on the run, they know they are loosing ground and they..... love it! They have a persecution complex, they want to be persecuted, they think it's what they should expect in the evil end times The feeling of the evil atheist humanists and false religions persecuting them is what the bible teaches them to expect (at least in their interpretation of it) and they believe their fight to oppose it is a holy thing demanded by god and that they alone will escape the horrible end when the rapture gathers them up directly into heaven just as the final conflict between god and the devil takes place. The rest of us get to be killed in horrible ways as the atomic Holocaust is orchestrated by the Devil, in fact the reason they are so supportive of the existence of Israel is intimately connected with the belief that the anti Christ will only come into power after Israel destroys the Muslim mosque that sits on the old Jewish Temple which will bring about the reign of the anti Christ and Armageddon... These people are far more dangerous than most other Christians can conceive of and tolerated because they are after all... you guessed it... Christians Manipulative power hungry politicians like Santorum are using this to take advantage of these people for his own political gains. They are all despicable human beings taking advantage of ignorance instead of trying to do something about it, in fact they rely on the ignorance of these people to survive... All of the republican candidates at least pay lip service to this crock of Horse Feathers, either they are lairs, willfully ignorant or stupid...

I agree but in my case that is not what happened, the DuPont company did not go bust and neither did it's Dacron polyester market, until is started up polyester plants in other countries on the cheap under under different names with the help of our government... At Dupont, it was always far too many chiefs and not enough Indians....

I have to admit some understanding at least of what this guy is talking about, I worked for 25 years for the DuPont corporation, I worked closely with engineers to develop new products new technology and new processes. We were always told to never discuss our work with anyone due to industrial espionage and that we needed to keep our technology secret to protect us from foreign competition. Some fo the stuff I helped develop was so secret the areas were walled off by huge curtains so only certain people had access to them. Once we perfected a great many unique technologies and products that had a high sales potential and wide spread uses DuPont immediately turned around and started up polyester sites in India and China, and sold our plant to a Mexican company. Most people lost their jobs and all of us were left with that greasy anus feeling. Now I commonly see the products i helped develop flooding in from other countries where people work for peanuts and most of the people I worked with spent their lives learning to do things that are no longer needed here but emulated everywhere labor is cheap and ten people can be hired to do the job one of us struggled to do. It ruined my health and left me with that greasy feeling for life... Why did they do it? cheap labor and tax breaks offered by our government.... yeah... that greasy feeling never quite goes away.... and yes, the products i see are often very inferior imitations of what we developed...

What part of "things don't expand as they loose energy" didn't you understand?

Not if your hypothesis is shown to be false, even if you don't get that removing energy from the earth would make it shrink not expand it can be absolutely shown the earth is not expanding, we can measure the size of the earth to very small tolerances and there is no sign of expansion. other testable theories can and do explain the way the continents move and plate tectonics is real and happens, your "idea" cannot be supported by any evidence and is easily shown to be false, in fact as i have pointed out you proceed from an absolutely false notion then build up ever higher piles of false notions to support the original false notion, it's an epic fail....

Rich, you are absolutely wrong, taking energy away from anything makes it shrink not expand your analogy fails from the very start, everything that follows is false as well. Watch this video for clarification or don't and remain ignorant... http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54#p/u/37/epwg6Od49e8

No, in the United States of America we do not have two ceremonies, you can have a civil ceremony if you want but if you wed in a church there is no civil ceremony. Also I would like to point out that some churches do indeed sanction gay marriage, i have been to several and catered two of them, but the state does not recognize them as legal...

This is not true, in fact the USA grow far more food than we need and we export a great deal to other countries, so this statement is false.

Google is your friend... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_exploration_in_the_Arctic

Rich, did you not bother to read the posts people have spent their time posting to answer your questions? Continents are granite, it is lighter than the basalt of the ocean floors, this basalt is not only under the oceans it is under the continents as well. basalt wells up along mid ocean ridges and spread out as this basalt come to a continent is goes under the granite because it is heavier, this tends to move the continents around. What part of this specifically do you not understand? If you look at a map of the ocean floors you can see the mid oceanic rides where the ocean floor spreads out. As was indicated sometimes the ocean floors do subduct under another part of the ocean floor but most subduction occurs at continental margins mostly due to granite floating on the sea of basalt below. It is not a random process, a map of the sea floor shows this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-ocean_ridge see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics

I googled it, all i could come up with is some people experience their penis getting smaller or have erectile dysfunction, no evidence of it causing birth defects. If your wife had taken it then it might have been more likely but try google, the top hits didn't mention anything like you said but such things are often complex and difficult to really pin down the cause.... Did you take any other supplements?

I understand there are exceptions but for the most part my model is a good description of reality... Just like sea ice, a huge ice berg can ride up over sea ice and sea ice can ride up over layers of it's self... In the ocean this process is driven by under water currents on the earth it is driven by moving molten basalt deep in the earth.

The thing to remember is that continental plates are like icebergs floating in the sea... granite bergs floating in a sea of basalt... the molten basalt wells up in the middle of oceans along the mid oceanic ridge, this basalt spreads out and then subducts under the lighter granite continents...

The "middle" of most oceans is where the crust is spreading out from magma being extruded under the ocean. The plates that collide are "floating" on the more dense basalt that underlies the oceans and the tectonic plates... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-oceanic_ridge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=tame-theory-did-bonobos&WT.mc_id=SA_DD_20120125

I understand that but in the book the planets were so close together they were egg shaped with the pointed ends always facing each other and they were so close they shared an atmosphere... they orbited each other in hours...

Is it possible for planets to orbit each other over an extended period of time, i am thinking billions of years, as described by Robert L Forward in his book Roche world? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocheworld

This race to be as extreme as possible seems to have started around the time that the religious right embraced the conservative right, (at best an unholy alliance) at least in my mind it did, i do remember being in public school and being made to stand in a corner because I refused accept Noah's Ark as real. Liberals have stopped the teaching of religion in public schools to a great extent and i think that sort of thing might have pushed the fundamentalist theists into the republican camp. I'm not really sure because I was relatively naive when it came to politics until my mid to late 20's. Fundamentalist theists have the agenda of having their beliefs taught as science or truth but it is only the christian fundamentalists take that is being asserted, no other creation myths are allowed only theirs... Many of them think their religious myths are absolute truth and the myths of other religions are of course false and demonic... More moderate theists are marginalized due to propaganda that counts them as being at best mislead and at worst they are lost souls deceived by the devil and no one wants that label, most moderate theists seem to think that as long as it's Christianity that is being asserted it's ok with them...I remember religion being a very big deal for Reagan's election campaign but it might have been an issue before that era...

I watched the entire video, you start out with a totally false assertion, objects do not contract when you add energy, they expand. A cooling earth would contract not expand. your analogy of a star expanding is also false, a star expands because it begins to fuse helium which cases it to expand because more energy is added not taken away. All else you say fails due to this one fact. It is also a good idea to show that even though the processes of plate tectonics it still making the continents move around the earth and heat energy is still being lost it can be shown the Earth not expanding, we can measure the size of the earth down to minuscule amounts no expansion is shown.