Moontanman

First off, only creationists claim something from nothing, science does not make that claim. The same assertion that something cannot come from nothing can be made about God, where do gods come from? What created gods? I think humans created the concept of god. I want to know, you obviously are getting your information from videos on youtube, I watched yours did you watch mine, remember not to violate the 9th commandment in your answer. I'm getting a bit tired of your assumption that atheists are making these assertions as though all theists agree with you, I ask you directly, give me some evidence of your god, yes your god, why is your god real and all the others not real? You could win a lot of respect by answering that with something other than I just know. Do you have any testable empirical evidence of any god much less your tiny idea of god? You are ignorant of the concept of god, ignorant of the concept of science, ignorant of the writings of your god, where do you get your information from? Have you ever actually researched any of this or do you just swallow after sucking up anything you agree with? Asking what was before the big bang is like asking what is south of the south pole, the most honest answer is we just don't know where the universe came from.. as of now, but the investigation goes on and no God is not the default position.... God of the gaps, as the gaps get smaller god gets smaller, how small will god have to be before you admit you are just wrong? You still haven't addressed the flat disc shaped earth under a crystal dome, how can god have been so wrong?

The various blacktip sharks are rather closely related, hammer heads are very distant from great whites, I wouldn't expect them to hybridize...

I've raced, trust me it is far more exciting that playing a video game.... I get the impression not a lot of experienced bikers here... riding motorcycles is a skill set not everyone can master, they are dangerous but also safer, I sounds like a contradiction but it's very true. If you know how to take advantage of the advantages a motorcycle has it can be safe and fun... till some a-hole pulls out in front of you and you t-bone him.... BTW, motorcycle racing is about as fast as it can get with the technology available to the builders, at this point tire wear seems to be the most limiting factor.... The rear tire on a powerful motorcycle looses traction quite easily and spends a lot of time spinning faster than the front tire. Superbike racing is dismissed? Not by motorcycle fans, it is far more serious racing than the whole NASCAR go fast turn left crap....

WHAT! There is a post of the month contest and I haven't won it yet, it's obviously rigged....

No problem dude, if all theists were like you i would not have any problems with them. Ok, i know that in the Catholic church you can't just decide not to follow the rules of the church, I know lots of Catholics, birth control is a big problem for them. while you are correct that right now, for most of the christian religion but not by a large majority, birth control for married people is not a problem. less than 100 years ago it was illegal for anyone to buy sell or posses a condom, even married people, such unnatural birth control was not only illegal but considered immoral. And i think you better check with your theist friends, committing one sin will indeed send you to hell if you do not ask for forgiveness and never do it again. Honestly if I have to explain that we cannot possibly be on the same channel.... In the US it is preached and in some states illegal to teach any other way of birth control, i was not suggesting you personally preached it. While I agree with you I know enough about human nature to know that would not fly... how about after a divorce, could a woman not have another child? the idea is a five gallon bucket full of worms, worms with dangerous bites... Tell it to the inquisition.... It's quite possible for religious fundamentalism to be on the rise as atheism is on the rise as well. Atheists are still a small percentage of the population in the US, religious people are a much bigger part of the population than atheists and religious fundamentalism is a bigger portion of theists and much larger portion of the population than atheists. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_right http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism

What always amazes me is that the most religious read their holy book the least, the most they do is read cherry picked bits and pieces given to them by their religious leaders and fail to really read the book and what it says, it's a horrifying tail of a psychopathic god that demands murder, genocide, pillage, slavery, child molestation, and yes njaohnt, the bible does indeed say the earth is a flat disc covered by a crystal dome under water. The sun and the moon are just lights under the crystal dome, your ignorance of scripture is sadly not unique and most people do not even know the basics of the bible much less the details and when you try to tell them they stick their fingers in their ears and scream LA LA LA LA LA, willful stupidity is a very sad thing, I have a lot of respect for the many theists we have on this forum, I might disagree but at least we can agree on where our disagreements lie, you sir just don't care to see reality, fairy tales are more important to you and that is why you are not getting any respect on this site,... OH MY GOD, YOU'VE CONVINCED ME, I SEE THE LIGHT HOW COULD I HAVE BEEN SO STUPID JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD... no wait, it was just a mini stroke... Good God man, if you are going to believe something at least know wtf you are believing....

Um, a subset can be a majority, i suggest you look up the meaning of the word subset... They can disagree and be excommunicated too not to mention the whole burn in hell part as well... You cannot be a Catholic and use birth control other than abstinence and... wait they have a word for people who follow it.. I think they are called parents... Nothing that beats it? Was that meant to be funny? Abstinence is about as likely to be a successful form of birth control as holding your breath is successful to get your way, humans are going to have sex, you know it and I know it, preaching abstinence only is just silly. Yes, if you could enforce it, forced abortion is about the only way to enforce that, good luck with that btw. It seems pretty damn important to them, so important they tell third world cultures that condoms spread aids... What I was trying to show is that religions change and evolve due to factors outside the religion, given the freedom to do so religion would be back torturing people for eating meat on Friday pretty quick, only secular laws prevent this. On the other hand the subset of Christians who are fundamentalists is smaller than the subset that is not fundamentalist but the fundamentalist movement is growing in both numbers and political power. That cannot be ignored... I agree, except they are often the same people....

If you fall off a motorcycle at 20mph (32kph) it's likely to hurt you badly, I have been on bikes at over 180mph (290kph), it was a quite thrill the first couple of times but my tolerance to adrenaline is quite high, mostly due to doing crazy stuff on motorcycles for fun. it's very difficult to go fast on a motorcycle in terms of power applied, the faster you go the harder it becomes to accelerate. Motorcycles are not very aerodynamic, it takes a a lot of hp to go 120mph (193kph), about 100hp (73kw)will do it if the bike is relatively light. to go 150mph (241kph) takes about 180hp, 200mph (330kph) would take a lot more than 200hp (146kw). Chrysler made a motorcycle with a V10 engine, the tomahawk, it was estimated to be able to go 300mph+ (480kph), it had over 500hp (372kw), as far as I know no one ever really tried to see how fast it would go, the bike was considered so dangerous it was delivered to it's owner in a non running state and was considered as work of art and could not be licensed to ride on the highway. Of course a fairing changes these estimates quite a bit but most 200hp motorcycles are still incapable of going more than about 185mph (297kph) or so. One commercial motorcycle was said to be able to break the 200mph (330kph) barrier but Suzuki put a governor on them, so they can't go much past 180mph (290kph) or so, far too many people would buy then and die on the way home. I think officially 180mph (290kph) is the limit and most bikes are now limited by governors to less than 180 mph (290kph) or so. Although many bikes top 200hp easily. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-472004366476459286

Not really true, or at least not true in the USA, a subset of Christianity called fundamentalism, often personified by evangelicals but also present in other sects of Christianity do indeed oppose modern science and adhere to a strictly absolute truth interpretation of the bible some even refuse medical treatments. A large percentage are pushing to have "Creation Science" taught in the classroom as reality. On the other hand a great many Christians do indeed go with the idea that the bible is really parables instead of absolute truth. No, actually the idea of birth control not being a sin is quite recent, less than 100 years ago it was illegal and a sin, the Catholic church still says it's a sin. Ummm like what? Abstinence? Oral sex? Get real.... Religion in the US is in a huge battle to restrict even sex education to nothing but abstinence... It's just one more way to control people and their sex lives, i think basic human rights is indeed important... many people are totally unaware that Christianity was gelded by the enlightenment, and religion has been fighting tooth and toenail to get their testicles back and regain absolute control of the people ever since. What we see as the Christian religion today is afar cry from what it was before the enlightenment.

You can believe in what ever you want, belief does not equal knowledge by any stretch of the imagination. Did you bother to watch the videos I suggested? I watched yours. Noah's ark is not true, it is easily shown not to be true, as I said echinoderms, cephalopods and amphibians easily show it to be false. The bible describes the Earth as a flat disc covered by a crystal dome which is under water, the sun and moon travel across this crystal dome, this is easy shown not to be true. The water for the flood came in through the windows of heaven? Where are they? Where did all the water go after the flood was over, give this stuff some thought, it is just silly. I knew it was silly when I was 8 years old. Echinoderms, starfish, sea urchins, cannot live in diluted sea water neither can salamanders nor can a great many fish and other sea and freshwater creatures, corals come to mind as well. The idea of Noah's ark is just silly, it cannot be supported by the evidence. Animals can survive for 40 days without food? Damn man you don't even know your own holy book, the flood lasted far longer than 40 days and the idea of mammals surviving with no food for 40 days is a silly argument, what did they eat after the flood waters had gone where ever that volume of water, many times the current volume of the sea, go? Do you even have an idea of how big the Earth really is and how diverse the plants and animals are? I can name lots of trees and plants that would not have survived such a flood, even from seeds or spores. Use the brain you have to actually think... The Bible is full of murder, rape, pillage, child molestation, genocide, committed by humans at the demand of god and your holy book is not the only one, there are many, some older than yours and the adherents are just as sure your beliefs are false, don't be willfully ignorant, the knowledge is out there and google is your friend, stop listening to the misrepresentations, lies and out right fabrications of religious apologetics, use your brain, God did not write the bible, men did and not even superior men, just men who wrote about the myths and legends of the bronze age cultures around them and used them for their own purposes, usually that meant tales of killing and other things we consider crimes today. Believe if you want but if you claim it's true on this forum you will be shown it's fallacies every time.... Another video for you to ignore in your love of ignorance.... http://www.youtube.com/user/brettppalmer?feature=watch#p/c/99354F7586D7BCCD/0/_sD_7rxYoZY

The answer is that the first plants did not come from seeds but originated as algal films. Those flims over many millions of years developed into things like marine macro algae then on to liver worts, mosses, then ferns, cycads, and so on, so the first plants did not have seeds. The first plants probably reproduced when pieces of them were moved by water or wind, spores developed from sexual reproduction then on to bigger spores which eventually developed into plants with seeds. There are extinct plants called seed ferns that are some place in between spore plants like ferns and seed plants like cycads. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pteridospermatophyta

Noah's Ark is trivially falsified, the existence of echinoderms, cephalopods, and salamanders falsify Noah's Ark completely, the list of other animals that could not possibly have survived such a flood is vast (not to mention plants), the actual number of creatures that the ark would have had to contain just to allow land animals to survive would take a vessel many times bigger than a modern nuclear attack carrier. sit down and give it some real thought, thousands of species of ants bees, not to mention many thousands of insects, millions of species of animals all told, then there is the food supply for those animals both before and after the flood, it's nothing but a silly fairy tale. Then you have the problem of a genetic bottle neck, it is easily proven that all animals (not to mention people) on the earth did not originate 4000 years ago... dude you are embarrassing your self... stop worshiping a book written by bronze age savages about myths of gods.... you do not have to worship that book to be a Christian, Science does not equal atheist, you can choose to believe gods work in naturalistic ways but one thing is for sure, the bible is fiction, cover to cover... Oh yeah, if you want to play dueling videos I'm armed and ready.... Try this series by Potholer54, then get back to me. http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54#p/c/DB23537556D7AADB/0/wg1fs6vp9Ok

Religious holidays effect me no more than grazing beside a river bothers a horse who isn't thirsty, it's only when someone drags me into the water and tries to hold my head under til I drink does it really start to piss me off. I like Christmas, I like the bright lights, decorated conifers, getting and giving gifts, feasting, and all the other pagan traditions associated with the holiday. The best part is the virgin birth of a god, a great but often repeated pagan tradition as well. Yup, gotta love them pagans, great traditions connected with the movements of the sun and moon, quite useful to run a agrarian culture way back when, and very good for our modern capitalist society as well....

Some do yes... No, not true, a human bite is one of the worst, a rat bite is not necessarily any worse than any other non venomous animal bite. Again, not true, some insect bites can be dangerous due to pathogens they carry, malaria comes to mind.... a fish bite could be serious as well if the fish has teeth capable of breaking your skin...

Insects do indeed eat those things.... I would venture insects eat things a rat would gag at... Yes, some insects and arachnids can indeed bite and kill you, but ants sting, spiders bite, mosquitoes bite, it really depends on the species as to the danger to humans if any. House flies neither sting nor bite but they still spread disease and thus can kill you. No, absolutely makes no sense in this context. Rats have evolved to eat the things they do, we have not. The further apart, in terms of evolution, a life form is from another the less likely they are to share disease organisms. Disease organisms generally co evolve along with their hosts. Many generations of close contact can allow disease organisms to cross the species barrier like influenza has in birds, swine and humans but we are responsible for that because we allowed those animals to live in close contact with us. At one time during the winter farm animals lived in the same house and room as their human care takers did. many generations of living in confined spaces together resulted in diseases like small pox, influenza, and other diseases making the jump to humans from other animals. I would suggest that insects do indeed suffer from as many if not more diseases than humans or mammals but it's really not important that to us that insects die from disease other than to use those diseases against them.

I have to say that the evidence I've observed much of my life confirms this, areas that are poverty "stricken" tend toward more, in numbers, and more influential churches. Interestingly enough crime is also high in these areas as well even though the churches maintain a high profile and do a lot of community out reach to help their members. I would draw the conclusion that poverty breeds both crime and religiosity...

Steamed or roasted oysters are noting like sauteed or fried, i mean really not even close. Shrimp are crunchy? That doesn't sound good to me either.

The main way is to steam them until they just barely open and then dip them in various sauces (I like butter, hot vinegar or wasabbi grated up and sprinkled over them) or just eat em right out of the shell, I like em raw too but they are difficult to get into raw. I collect my own clams and a species of mussel that lives in the sand, pen oysters are good, cockles, conch, I love crayfish, crabs and shrimp. How have you eaten shrimp? Fried or boiled big difference in taste. As for fish, I like flounder, grouper, spots, croakers, cobia, shark, Spanish mackerel and pompano. If I can cook them on the beach when I catch them bluefish are good as well. Mmmmmm two dozen hot eggnog biscuits..... now for that home made dewberry jam....

I'm on a see food diet, i see food and i eat it. Actually i do eat a lot of seafood, I live on the coast and i can get fresh seafood everyday and I love fish, shrimp, crab, oysters, clams and several other odd things i can catch myself. I also go for local produce and freeze it in season so i can have it out of season. Oysters are in season now and I've eaten a boat load so far this season. New years even will be oyster night for sure. I just baked a batch of eggnog biscuits, they are really great but eggnog is out of season so this will be the last batch.

This has already happened, in Pennsylvania, a Judge was disbarred, but i don't think convicted, for being in collusion with a local privatized prison for juveniles. It turned out he was sentencing juveniles to this prison for just about anything, spitting on the streets is not too much of an exaggeration for the trivial things this judge was sending kids to prison for and the judge was getting kickbacks from the owners of the prison for sending them juvenile offenders...

If not treated a few days after that you will experience death...

Actually they use the three domain system now, the six kingdoms is not considered accurate now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-domain_system

Ok, here is my hobby horse idea... The expansion of space time occurred in two different time directions, anti matter went backwards in time from our perspective and matter went forward but to the anti matter universe their time goes forward and we go backward.... in my idea there is no Multiverse unless there is another time axis we are unaware of....

What is soul? I can't explain it but I gots it! I'm a soul maaaann..... sorry i couldn't help myself.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7nFe0hxB6I