Moontanman

Americium is fissionable and has a critical mass. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americium

No you are correct, i apologize, i am in a very bad mood for reasons having nothing to do with this and I'm the asshole, i did read your post but i missed some key words due to my bad mood, no excuse on my part, again i apologize...

If you are too good to point out that I misread your post then FU....

Do what's best for your own ego....

Hydrogen comes to mind... uh oh this sounds like a science class question....

So when did those two become the only possibilities? There are other schools of thought but one thing to remember, if the answer you give is god did it, then who created god? And who created the being that created god and so on.... Saying god did it just stops all further inquiry, it stops knowledge, at one time the answer to the question of what causes lightning was god and it was a serious answer too, not to mention the only answer unless of course you ask which god...

Battle, science vs religion? Lets be serious here, I'll take scientific knowledge and any one else can take religion, you can pray, call down gods wrath, do anything you want as long as it's religion but with scientific knowledge i can build a gun and kill you easily, (loads of other options but that one just came to me, must be divine inspiration, lol) all the religion in the world will not stop the bullet nor will it keep me from being able to build the gun. I don't see any religion that can call down gods wrath with out the help of technology and technology comes from science, it's a no brainer. Religion offers absolutely no positive knowledge about anything, science on the other hand is responsible for our modern civilization and all the things that go along with that. Take away all that science has delivered in the past 200 years, and people start dying immediately, with in days many millions would be dead, with in a month and billions would be dead, take away religion and people stop dying or at least have one less reason to kill each other. You can have all the belief in the world, you are welcome to it, but science is reality, pray that the electricity comes back, pray the sewage system works, pray for food, I'll take reality over pie in the sky any day.... yeah, so, lets see some support for the idea it's unexplained, Penn and Teller do things i can't explain, doesn't make them miracles. If it's a miracle is should be easy to show it is, just claiming it's a miracle doesn't mean shit.... No, religion doesn't explain anything, it answers no questions, it only says god did it and the realm of god did it is becoming smaller and smaller... There is no evidence for anything supernatural, no reason to explain anything by saying it is supernatural, the supernatural only tries to explain things that the supernatural claims to exist and has no support other than the supernatural...

Hindu milk miracle? Seriously?

I am so very sorry to have posted that, and so very glad it was not true....

I came across this video while looking for something else, I'm not sure if it's real or not but it's quite shocking if it is true...

Appolinaria, i am pretty sure I never said infants or anyone else under age should have sex, I did say we should question the reasons why we think things are true.

In my life time I've seen our society go from one extreme to another. At one time it was thought that black people were inherently inferior to white people, so much so that a black persons access to nearly everything was restricted. Many argued that to allow black people equality would give them something they were not equipped to handle. Now we have a black man for president. At one time cigarettes were claimed by doctors to be good for coughs, a curative of sorts, now we know cigarettes are a very bad threat to public health. I think it's important in a society to understand the why behind the things we do and believe to be real, far too often in the past emotional reasons have been used in place of evidence and evidence that disagreed with what we "knew" to be true was ignored. I'm not sure what the OP's motives were for this thread but I think it's important to know the why and why not of the question and not assume...

Phi for all, this is a difficult topic to discuss, possibly up there with religion and most of us have been so preprogrammed to follow the idea that anyone under the age of 18 is a child (horsefeathers) and that children cannot be sexual beings (a real lie) and the public scorn allows very little room for real debate...

Really? Can you support this? AS i say again, i am not supporting having sex with kids, although i think Genecks has it totally backwards, how ever it is a fascinating to look at the parallel between the infantalization of women generations ago and the opinions on sex with children today, it quite bizarre to compare the attitudes of that era with today. Phi for all, I remember in those books you mentioned that the main character was doing some soul searching about telling people her views on how woman become pregnant. I think the moratorium on having sex with kids is a modern concept that has developed along with our views on individual rights, when women (and people in general) were property having sex with kids was ok, if you owned them or if you captured them in battle, basic human rights were not as we see them now, the only people who really had rights were adult males and then only if you were lucky enough to be free. The fact that we restrict sex with kids is a testament to humans going beyond the incomplete morals of the past to more enlightened moral of the present, following the steps is fascinating...

Thanks John, I concede your point... Those other links had me wondering if you wanted me to hang myself...

I think it shows just how scared people are to question religion and anything to do with religion no matter how batshit crazy it is....

Are the things being portrayed in this video child abuse? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiEfVNvQkIE

I'm not sure why this would make it more abusive to have non violent shared sexual pleasure with a child than indoctrinate them into behaviors that would result in harm or to brow beat them with this indoctrination and destroy their sense of self worth in some way. I doubt this, mental abuse can destroy your life and have no sexual over tones what so ever. What does having sexual pleasure as a child with an adult have to do with seeing yourself as sexually unattractive? None the less the idea that sex is bad comes from what you have been taught, not some instinctive behavior. In this thread i find myself seeming to defend something that i do not condone but the parallels with other sexual myths is difficult to ignore, Not many generations ago for a unmarried woman to have sex was fate worth than death and was supposed to result in some sort of horrendous sexual dysfunction, lack of self esteem, and other mental or personality problems in the woman who was seduced and it was indeed true but not because unmarried sex was in of it's self horrible but the reaction of society to this fallen woman was the real cause of any problems. He was often portrayed as an evil man, a seducer of women, who would use some outside leverage to force the woman into cooperation and she would feel shame and self loathing due to this seduction. Woman were considered not to be able to have consensual sex because they were innocent and easily corrupted.. I see some real parallels here, the assumption that a child cannot have any sexual urges or even find any pleasure and they the child is victim lured into something they have no way of knowing the consequences of... Back then it was because they are women and therefore cannot give consent or some sort of totally circular logic that makes no sense as we look back from our vantage point but it's important to note that back then the "seduced fallen women" were portrayed as victims and told long horrible stories about how they had been damaged by a night of debauchery... they were forced to admit how damaged they were and if they admitted to actually enjoying it then is was due to the evil influence of the man who seduced them, there was no chance they could have just enjoyed the sex, it just goes round and round like a snake swallowing it's tail.... makes my head hurt trying to unravel it To be sure i do know women who to this day refuse to give in and say they were victims when they had sex as a child, because they enjoyed it and often sought out sexual encounters... their main complaint was the reaction of adults

Excessive masturbation? (squints real hard to read) I can't see any harm in it (scratches hairy palms), no really, how could it hurt?

AS i read it God, was afraid that if men could do "this" meaning build the tower, they soon would be able to do anything so in fear of this the gods confused their languages... And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. 5 And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. 6 And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. 7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. 8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. 9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

Where do the minerals come from? How could the mass of the Earth have grown out of a ball of water or any other body of water large enough to be round under it's own gravity? I think you are thinking of manganese nodules growing on the bottom of the ocean and drawing a false parallel between that and planet growth...

Where do the minerals come from? How could the mass of the Earth have grown out of a ball of water or any other body of water large enough to be round under it's own gravity? I think you are thinking of manganese nodules growing on the bottom of the ocean and drawing a false parallel between that and planet growth...

Appolinaria, could you stop with all the weird fonts, it makes it almost impossible to quote you The OP is asserting those numbers are inflated by a culture of victim hood, if the OP is reading this I'd like to see some figures on that as well. This assumes that sex below the age of 17 is abusive because they do not have sexual desire before the age of 17 nor can they consent, I doubt the first but tend to agree with the latter. That is the kind of information i was looking for, not some subjective "tons of pedos" White power groups and numbers http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-10-20-hategroups_N.htm I am not arguing for prostitution or child molestation i am trying to uncover facts about the OP question. I'll grant you that statistic but how many teenage prostitutes are there? millions or a few hundred at any one time? You link did not say that they could not experience sexual arousal and other scientific investigations dispute this quite nicely, An extensive study in the 1950's showed exactly the opposite with infant females being able to lubricate and orgasm and infant males being able to get erects and orgasm as well. I know that by age five i could both get an erection and have an orgasm and little girls can indeed have orgasms as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_Reports You would have to look up the entire study to find the parts about children but they are and it was quite controversial in it's time. But having experienced it I know that neither age 17 or puberty is necessary for a person to experience arousal or orgasm. This I have seen studies on this and I pretty much agree but I don't think the impairment is as bad as you would have us believe, but try to restrict the age of sexual concent to 25 and see how long it takes you to be ridding out of town on a rail. I think the natural human condition is to start having sex at puberty, our society frowns on it for some practical reasons and some totally arbitrary reasons but there is no doubt that once you hit puberty normal humans sex drive goes on over load... and 17 is far past puberty for the vast majority of the population. Again, this has been shown to not be true, not even close, even with out my anecdotal data it is it can be shown to be true that children can and do enjoy sexual contact, have erections, lubricate, and have orgasms. Also Appolinaria, the OP is asserting that the abuse numbers are skewed due to our society inflating the numbers to include all sexual contact and not just those that were traumatized, I would like to see some data to back this up but it needs to be addressed. I think this possibility needs to be addressed... I still assert that the issue of sex is indeed treated differently and not because it is some how more traumatic than anything else a parent can do to a child.

A ton of pedos all around us? How many is that per capatia? A ton of people would be about 12 or so, how many tons of non pedos are there all around us? I wouldn't be so sure, white supremacy is quite wide spread. I'd be willing to bet there are more white supremacists than pedos... Another appeal to emotion, this is a science forum, actual evidence should be presented, not an appeal to emotions. Why is sex so much more important to avoid than other forms of possible psychological damage? Why is the fear of this so wide spread in modern society? Again, i am not trying to support the idea of sex with children.... Do you really think that pedophiles are everywhere just waiting for a chance to seduce 12 year old girls? Or could it be another case of media hype?

This wiki article suggest that Jupiter and Saturn have cores of rock and metal surrounded by liquid metallic hydrogen then gasses. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_giant Neptune does indeed have a layer of ices, hi temperature and high pressure ices. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neptune Interior of Europa, more rock than is or water http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_(moon) your words... I know of no bodies in the solar system that are thought to be balls of water,. this idea is not only wrong you use it so come to conclusions that are impossible, these moons are mostly rock and metal, where does the rock and metal come from and where did the water go to leave behind such a large ball of rock and liquid metal with just a covering layer of water and or ice? Your idea requires evidence, imagination without evidence results in fantasy....