Moontanman

It has been reported widely in the news lately that the current jump in gas prices (in the USA anyway) is due to speculation not lack of oil.

I respectfully suggest you re check your math, The Earth is more than twice the diameter of Mars if you double the diameter of a sphere the volume increases by 8, 2 X 2 X 2 = 8 the slight extra accounts for the extra two Mars volumes. I suspect that since you have ignored the overwhelming evidence that refutes your claims that no matter what we say you will not do anything but clinch your fists and say no no no I am right right right

I should have added this link to the first post. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Integral_Trees

John there should have been a at the end of that, I mean this is game thread isn't it? But you cannot really think OBL could or should have been treated like an American Citizen do you? He is not a regular person any more than the Queen of England is or Bonnie and Clyde were. Personally I think it's wrong to question the Navy Seals, they were there, they did what they had to do in a very fluid situation. I think the real question here, if there is one, is did the USA have the right to invade the sovereign soil of another country to take him. But if he had been taken he would have been part of a circus, much like a dangerous caged beast on display, the bullet to his brain was probably the most compassionate way his life could have ended, his capture would have been every bit the equivalent of being dragged in chains and dropped in a pit....

I've read several stories about silicon life, the most believable one had to do with silicon and concentrated sulfuric acid as the liquid and they breathed gaseous sulfur. I can see the cover in my mind but I can't recall the name of the book but I think the author was Hal Clement. Ah this is it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceworld written in 1951 it would probably not hold up to todays science but it is still very "cool" Here is a good resource for writers and just curios people this site can be used to figure out all sorts of interesting stuff http://www.johnbray.org.uk/planetdesigner/

I know some of you like to read science fiction and I had the idea of what is the most outrageous or surprising idea in science fiction for a habitat for life that has ever been portrayed in science fiction but is also entirely possible? My vote goes to the smoke ring in the book "The Integral Trees" by Larry Niven life evolving in a weightless environment inside a gas ring around a neutron star. We know gas rings are possible, Titan forms one, admittedly a tenuous one, around it's primary Saturn, but in this book the gas ring is far denser owing to the neutron stars huge gravity well, an oxygen nitrogen atmosphere, small asteroids and rocks orbiting inside the ring, I think it just may be the most unique idea that is also possible in science fiction. Any others?

What if anything does this have to do with the expanding Earth? You are still talking about an expansion of 10X, ten times lightstorm, ten times the volume of what you claim was thesize of the Earth 300 million years ago, not .5% or 1% but 1000%, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, so far all you give is.... nothing, nothing but weird claims that have no basis in reality, cooling will not cause the earth to expand, there is no mechanism for your "expansion idea" and there is over whelming evidence that everything you claim is just wrong and easily explained other ways that are backed by, dare I say it again, overwhelming evidence...

This one is really good John... Very good points insane and Marat, personally i would have liked to have see him paraded around in chains and chained up at the 9/11 site and left there to rot in a pit of pig guts but that is just me...

Maybe I should have said bull-butter instead, "realitycheck" i was trying to relate how profanity does motivate people especially when you don't generally use it, it does get someone attention when an other wise polite person breaks down into profanity..

Play poke-a-troll! (get your own cattle prod!) No not really, i like to beach comb, surf fish, build aquariums, ride motorcycles, hike, swim, scuba, woodworking, growing cacti... Mostly the things I do for fun... I'm a house husband, I should be folding laundry right now but i am doing this instead....

Of course dinosaurs have existed with men, birds are everywhere, but if you are talking about the creatures we all think of when we say dinosaurs then no, no human has ever seen a living dinosaur. btw, where is your video?

Oh "Brave New World" ? I would think this is probably more natural for humans but who decides what is natural depends on the culture and our culture seems to be lurching about as far away from this ideal as we can in recent years. I do know some polyamorus people, some are in what they term "open" poly relationships and others are in what they call "closed" poly relationships, not sure how this corresponds to polygamy where sex is reserved for the man to have with his women one at a time but in the idea of poly it's everyone having sex with everyone else in the "closed" groups and everyone having sex with anyone they want in the open groups.

I know a man (on another forum ) who says he sees this phenomena regularly, he says it is indeed due to waves in the atmosphere, he lives in New Zealand I believe...

NO IT'S NOT! Wipes egg yolk off shirt...

Well I'm not going to get any points for this answer but Yes, having more than 2 kids per couple or one kid per person is highly unethical. There are far too many people on the planet now, having more kids than it takes to simply replace your self is wrong IMHO... not so sure about being totally childless because of worrying about what might happen to them in the future, we all take that risk, life it's self is a risk, but if you feel that way then go for it or um don't go for it or maybe just use birth control.

Then again maybe he was reaching for the petroleum jelly....

I would think you could store energy by forcing magnets together but it would not create any new energy.

The last couple days, I've spent at least an hour a day trying to get Virgin Mobile to refund money they took out of my bank account mistakenly (I hope) At first they assured me that no extra money would be taken out then the next working day, (this started on Friday, Monday was the first day i called them) they told me, after more than an hour on the phone, that the extra 4 times they had taken money out of my bank account would be back before the end of the working day. Tuesday I called back and asked where was my money they then said I needed to wait 5 working days, I told them it was unacceptable, that they had indeed assured me the money would be back in my account, I asked to speak to a manager, the manager got on the phone (yeah right) but still refused to do what the bank said needed to be done they claimed they had no fax machine and that they had not taken the money out, (actually this was about three managers in, I am quite certain they were just jerking me around by this time) I sad Bullsh*t, the guy told me i continued to use profanity he would hang up on me, i told if he did I would call the Better business bureau and the local TV Station (they love this stuff and do stories a couple days a week), he said no matter what I did they would not fax my bank and that i had to wait 5 days to get my money, i told him bullsh*t, he hung up. I called back and told the person that bullsh*t was not profanity in my culture (in redneck USA it is not, lol) and that they had lied to me over and over and that I was going to call the better business bureau, they said no money would come to me until 5 days, I sad bullsh*t and they hung up, the next day my money was back... not sure what this means except in India evidently bullsh*t is profanity and wearing down the customers resolve is part of their game... but that is bullsh*t... but is it censorship for them to get me worked up over several days then hang up on me when i loose my temper for saying bullsh*t or was my temper loss and use of the word bullsh*t really the reason they gave me back my money? BTW the first two days of calls i was polite to a fault, I generally am when dealing with people on the phone, I realize that the regular people who work the phones are not responsible but a manager is responsible and i did not say anything bad to anyone but a "manager". Is bullsh*t profanity? And when, if ever, is it appropriate to use profanity?

Come on Rigney, Marat is no more full of shit than you are, he has some good points, one thing for sure lopping off a head of state in a war is often a mistake and makes the war bloodier and longer. Personally I'd like to have seen him rot in a dank hand dug pit covered with concrete so he would never seen the sun, feed him nothing but pork and give him leprosy infected armadillos to play with but thats just me. I have say that second guessing these navy seals is just Monday morning quarter backing by people who have no clue how to play the game. They were there, not us, they had to make a life or death decision in hostile territory under fire, can any of us even imagine what that was like? I think not, but if any one "needed killing" it was him but even in the south you can't use that excuse in court any longer....

Naw, you are wrong spyman, the Earth is going to expand and consume the sun and the other planets, don't you read the links???

Yeah, imagine the Earth spinning so fast it cannot accrete from the protoplanetary disk and it flings it's self apart. In another 300 million years the Earth will be the size of Jupiter and will diffuse out into space due the low gravity, I can't wait... Does this mean the moon is getting bigger too ? How about the sun? Exactly what is increasing? Why didn't the crust expand too?

Danger? Could you elaborate on that?

The deeper you delve into this the murkier it becomes, I spent much of my life trying to figure it out but it's just what your local pastor tells you basically. Used to follow a particular pastor as he went from church to church, the point of his sermons depended on what that particular little church believed in, when he went to one that used rattlesnakes i started to wonder just what was really believed.

Believing in Christ and the claims being made about him in this thread do not necessarily follow each other, you are aware of the beliefs of all Christian denominations? there are thousands of them, not hundreds... Even Muslims believe Jesus was real...

Hmm, possibly we should fund an elephant dung catapult? Lots of discoveries have been made while doing other things, pure science should be funded I think but simple exploration has given many rewards as well. .