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Early 90's my share options were for $50 a share if I remember correctly, (really don't remember the actual prices from the early 90's), the actual price was $5 over the current option share price, i decided to let it ride, shortly there after it began a fall it never really recovered from and the option ran out before it climbed back up. (btw, i grew up that way too) I agree we need to cut out the socialism roll it back to the late 18 early 1900's I mean almost no one is hungry these days, people need to starve so they will work for nothing, far too many paved roads, who needs em, mud was good enough for our great grand parents, fire department? crap, by a fire extinguisher, police? who needs em, EMT's just socialism, Jackson you wouldn't know socialism if it jumped up and bit your testicles off.... wow no cussing..... and you don't know jack about children or what they need or how to motivate them.... Yeah, keep em hungry and cold, that will stop those new fangeled video games and evil TV's out of the hands of the poor. Well except in Missouri.... Why are reasonable rules agreed on by the majority of the people so frightening to you Jackson? “Never use a big word when a little filthy one will do.” ~Johnny Carson
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They do make a device that used propane from a grill type propane tank to make CO2 for the purpose of forcing plant growth in confined spaces.... I suggest you by a High Times magazine, lots of ads for those "Home Growing" supplies.....
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Proving or disproving that Adam is buried in Iraq
Moontanman replied to Mr Rayon's topic in Religion
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We never had a union, the pay and benefits were so good no union could ever get a foot hold. I honestly never questioned it, my plan was to invest in the company and work till i was 58 and retire with 40 years with the company and a benefit package that would have been unreal but as the say the plans of mice and men.... I honestly didn't think i was capable of doing that my self and I have seen several people who thought they could invest and retire are now walmart greeters or the equivalent, I honestly know of no one who actually did better than they could have by sticking with the company, the stock market is evidently not exactly a sure thing... Rather rule in hell than serve in heaven huh? Good luck with that, as I said I've seen more disasters than good times come out of doing that... I at one time held options on several hundred DuPont shares, the value of these options fell to the point of being worthless and never really recovered...
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I have to agree with you on this, people do tend to micro mange their children more now days, kids never learn how to make decisions, my wife and I both agreed way before we had kids we would not program ours in any one direction and allow them to make as many decisions as possible and allow them to deal with the consequences, (we were both raised by extreme authoritarian fathers who couldn't deal with the idea of a child making any decisions) once you get that going work ethic seemed to follow. One of the things that amazed me when i was raising kids was the number that had no clue as to consequences of their actions, it was almost scary. That's all I am really saying, parents should have the power to make most decisions but they cannot always be trusted to make the best ones and there needs to be some limits, not total limits but limits none the less. I often think of that too. You are correct, this is an emotional argument and I let my emotions get the better of me. (I am a very emotional person, i cry, laugh, get angry, and I let people know when these emotions are coursing through my head) I am lucky in that i worked for the DuPont corporation, generally they treat their employees quite well, especially their retirees but they have made cuts to the benefits i worked for over the years, nothing I can really do about it but it seems less than fair. You do hear about people loosing their pensions at a high enough rate to see why there are so many Walmart greeters who are also geezers I have heard the idea of how the younger generation is being coddled my whole life, i never understood it, saw very little of it anywhere but in kids who's parents were rather well of finacially and substituted money and things for love and encouragment, the real problem is that children are being raised in a way that cripples their ability to make decisions not to mention leaves them clueless as to the consequences of their actions... My thoughts on this are clouded by things that happened in my life as well, i was rather badly abused as a child, i am all about protecting children from this, nothing enrages me faster than to see a child being abused.... it's one of the few things i could easily hurt someone over and yes there are degrees of abuse and not preparing your children for life might be one of the worst forms of abuse in the long run...
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I am so tired of this Bullshit, i am 56 years old and I have heard all my life about how the young kids are being coddled and given everything by old farts who live in the damn past and have no clue about anything but the past. i remember being 13 and being hired out to clean out an old farmers barn, i shoveled shit and put up hay for three days and the whole time i got a constant spiel about how young kids today were being coddled and how we didn't know the value of work then the bastard stiffed me for half the money he promised and told me it was a learning experience. I raised two boys, they both worked as they grew up from chores to odd jobs for neighbors, i think the oldest got his first job picking up pine cones at around the first grade. They both worked hard worked their way through college and graduated and almost all their friends who were in the same or lower social economic class pretty much did the same thing. most of those kids would do almost anything for money if it was honest work. But yes there were some of the kids who were just lazy, never raised their hand to do anything. Guess where those lazy little bastards came from, yeah, the wealthiest kids in the schools. They drove $40,000 sports cars went to the best schools and had no responsibilities at all. Their parents gave them everything, forbade them form working and the little bastards would then go to the places of work of the other kids and harass them because they worked. Fuck this elitist bullshit, kids are no more coddled now than they were when I was a kid or when you old farts were kids, the rich kids were always coddled and the poor had to work, it's life but the idea that all or even most kids just sit around and pay video games and ask for handouts is so disingenuous it's difficult to deal with emotionally. Should kids be able to do appropriate jobs? Of course they should but there should be limits and parents cannot always be trusted to be the decision makers in this. I say the kids of today are just as industrious as they ever have been, the idea they are not is just old farts bullshitting each other about how hard they had it.... Oh yeah, some of those 55 year olds have no choice but to work at fast food joints, when your pension has been stolen by greedy companies sometimes you have to go back to work....
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Fear and Guilt are why religion exists, fear of death and fear of punishment for things you feel guilty about and of course religion gives you plenty of things to feel guilty about. Religion uses these things to promote it's self, religion says we will never really die, if you believe and do what religion tells you to do you will never die and be rewarded with paradise, if you do not then you will never die but be punished forever in a horrible fashion. Some people just can't deal with non existence, my feelings are that the universe is neatly partitioned into three parts, before i existed, while i exist, and after my existence, I see no reason to fear the last one any more than the first one... When people under stand what an oxymoron life after death is and that death is not the beginning of anything but accept it as simply the end i think religion will totally disappear....
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What would this smell like?
Moontanman replied to Green Xenon's topic in Microbiology and Immunology
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UV light is very energetic, it causes sunburn and can kill you, it burns the back of the eye and destroys the tissue that detects light and send the impulses to your brain, this tissue is very sensitive and does not heal when burned. UV also destroys the tissue of the lens causing it to become cloudy and and blocks out the visible light. Good sun glasses are not necessarily expensive, look for the UV protection rating , it is supposed to be on all sunglasses. No connection between UV and neutrinos in the way you suggest. Your eyes are not capable of detecting UV light, UV light is too damaging to living tissue to be used as a light source (actually the very near UV is visible to some people, UV has it's own spectrum too, it's just shorter than visible light) UV is more penetrating due to it's higher energy compared to visible light. It clouds the lens of the eye because the lens is not as transparent to UV as it is to visible light, it absorbs some of the UV and this absorption of energy is what clouds the eyes lens. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_spectrum
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Light is Electromagnetic radiation, from red to violet, is the EM radiation we can see, longer wave lengths are felt as heat, even longer wave lengths are microwaves, radio and other even longer waves. UV is short wave lengths, then it goes to x-rays then to gamma rays. Short wave length EM radiation is more energetic than long waves and is more harmful to the human body but if it is intense enough even long wave EM radiation can harm you, microwaves are used for cooking is an example. Reflected light from the moon is far too weak to harm you but reflected light from snow is almost as intense as the direct sunlight. This happens because the moon is so far away and snow is right under your feet, also snow reflects far more light than the much darker moon does... Actually, the lens thing is misleading, green plants use basically red and some blue light, plants absorb red and blue light (there are exception in algae and such but green complex plants use mostly those two wave lengths) they reflect the other colors and so appear green. The effects you see caused by the lenses has more to do with hormonal triggers than by the plant actually getting energy from the other wave lengths. Red light tends to cause different growth patterns than blue light and as the season change the amount of each a plant gets changes, day length also plays a big part in plant growth. My answer to the rest of this could probably be answered better by some one else but I'll try. Photons are vibrating, their energy content determines the vibration rate or wave length. I think you have this reverse, A south facing window should receive more light and heat than a north facing window, the photons cause the molecules to vibrate, this is what we feel as heat. The UV light doesn't reflect as well as the visible light so a North facing window should get less UV but more blue since the sky is blue, north light is always shifted toward the blue slightly.
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It is the Ultra Violet light that you cannot see that damages your eyes when you look at the sun and at a welder in action. The actinic (UV) light from a welder will give you what appears to be a sun burn if you are exposed long enough.
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Another thing to keep in mind is that the human eye is a very poor judge of light intensity, look into a light bulb indoors and it might make you squint but take it outside in the direct sun and you can hardly tell the bulb is lit. Your eye adjusts to the ambient light level making dim light appear as bright as possible and bright light dimmer.
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Not soon enough?
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As usual i couldn't watch the video but I do know enough about magnets to know that why they do certain things like stick to your fridge isn't easy to explain in terms most people really can really get a grip on. But I will tell about an incident that happened where I used to work. (just for fun) Long boring nights working the 12-8 shift when we weren't working like dogs we were bored, spit shine an polish only go so far and eventually you wear out the metal (literally) so some times we would invent games and such. We had an engineer who seemed to really enjoy giving the workers puzzles or tasks that were "interesting" One night he came in with a magnet, it was about a half inch thick and maybe an inch in diameter, he stuck it on an i-beam and bet anyone $10 they couldn't pull it off the metal, no to be fair he did stick it in a location that made it difficult to grip and it's small size also made gripping it difficult. After about 10 people had failed to get the magnet i stepped up and got it off with almost no problem. I didn't pull on it, I slid it off the edge of the I-beam. Again to be fair i was already familiar with the really strong magnets but I love magnets!
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Is speculation in multiverses as immoral as speculation in subprime mortgages? By John Horgan | Jan 28, 2011 05:50 PM I'm becoming a moralistic prig in my dotage. Someone dear to me just proudly told me that her son, a freshly minted Harvard grad, is training to be an investment banker. This privileged young man, I grumbled, should try to make the world a better place rather than playing in a rigged, high-stakes gambling racket. I apologized later—and vowed privately to be less self-righteous in my judgments of others' career choices. After all, I ain't exactly Gandhi. But then I read Brian Greene's new book, The Hidden Reality: Parallel Universes and the Deep Laws of the Cosmos (Knopf, 2011), and my moral hackles got all quivery again. (Weird coincidence alert: In 2006, the publisher RiskDoctor, Inc., released a book titled Options Trading: The Hidden Reality.) A physicist at Columbia University, Greene is an immensely talented science explicator who has brought physics to the masses through his smart, witty bestsellers, The Elegant Universe (turned into a television series narrated by Greene) and The Fabric of the Cosmos. http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=is-speculation-in-multiverses-as-im-2011-01-28&WT.mc_id=SA_SA_20110216
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Rigney, you seem to be saying that if we or one of our loved ones was a victim we would feel differently about crime and that if a few innocents have to suffer then so be it but I wonder if your attitude would be different if you were wrongly convicted. Imagine for a few minutes that long walk to the execution chamber knowing that your death is ok because it means a guilty guy won't have to be coddled in prison his whole life? Ehhhh, i don't know if it's ok with me that me or one of mine are executed wrongly just to make sure no guilty escape. nah! I can do with possibly letting a bad guy go on living in prison, lots easier to take me out of prison down the road than dig me up, i don't think my wife would like having my corpse dug up and sent home....
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Yes, a right that adults have, not children. No, i think it's to protect children from being exploited Minimum wage is set in stone for workers who are of age, it's under age workers that need to be protected. In some places children as young as 6 are working in fields, not on family farms, but as workers just like their parents. No one is saying that anyone should make any more than minumum wage, children under 16 have no business being worked in dangerous jobs they cannot refuse to do for money they never see for people who don't care what happens to them. I agree this is probably not true, but a 16 year old is legal worker now, do you really think children of any age should be required to work in jobs that adults do? Deal with the same dangers adults do? I really don't. I honestly think there should be limits to how old a kid can be when he works most jobs.
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Natural selection stops the evolution of male attractiveness
Moontanman replied to thinker_jeff's topic in Science News
Good example skeptic, there were so many examples that disprove this i didn't know where to start, hard to think of an animal that does not use male attractiveness to attract females.... almost any animal with good eye sight? -
No problem, I have some experience with this. You have obviously never experienced a female Dom.... This is demostratebly false, not only are species of animals with dominant females quite common it can vary from individual to individual with in the species. Again this is not true, you are making some enormous assumptions here, in heterosexuals either partner can be dominant but in most successful relationships the roles are no where near as clear cut as you seem to think and both partners can play either role. Ok i am going to be explicit, if you are adverse to the bare facts of sex then stop reading. Most Humans can and and often do achieve orgasm through anal intercourse, both males and females can orgasm from receiving anal intercourse. The anus has similar nerve centers as the penis or vagina and anal stimulation with a penis or a dildo or even fingers can and often does result in orgasm for both men and women. And yes both partners can take turns being bottom or top... Not all relationships, hetero or homo consist of one Dom and one sub, as a matter of fact many consider the idea of D/s to be a perversion. Most people are a combination of both. I think i already answered this one. No wait, I missed the lesbian part, this too is something I am familiar with, my first wife was bisexual, if you ever get the chance to ever even watch two women make love (not porn) this question too would be moot. From what I've seen women enjoy sex much more than men can enjoy sex, the lesbian sex act can be very loving and sweet in a way that male female sex seldom is but it can also be every bit as "hold me down and do me like the slut i am as any male/female sex act" Homosexual sex is the same as heterosexual sex and the act can be as different as there are people and imaginations. In exactly the same way... I hope I have shed some light on that for you You are entitled to your opinion but the evidence proves you wrong...
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Good thing we did outlaw slavery, at some point slaves always seem to rebel and that would nave been a very bad thing but children are defenseless and are unlikely to rise up against their oppressors. Agreed I don't think it should be outlawed but it needs to be monitored very closely by someone who's finger is not in the pie so to speak. While I have a giant mistrust of the government in many if not most things i don't think anyone else has the capacity to do this successfully, whether they do it right or not is problematic and subject to how closely we as citizens hold the gov responsible. I worked my whole life, it never hurt me but it was generally tailored to fit around my school work, if i remember correctly there was a limited number hours i could work, not sure if it was a law or just the employer being socially responsible (it can happen) but the pay issue is where the abuse begins i think, if a child has to be paid the same minimum wage as an adult fewer children will be working and the ones that do will be paid a reasonable wage. I think 16 is as young as a child should be officially employed but even then hours should be limited. My boys mowed lawns and did odd jobs around the neighborhood from around 10 or so but they did it as they needed money it was not required, requiring a kid to do something is the best way to keep them from doing it, lol There are ways to raise children that don't involve cattle prods or sugar cubes...
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Is this caused by inferior spirulina?
Moontanman replied to fett_arsch's topic in Microbiology and Immunology
My first thought (well actually my second) is that you might not have actually received Spirulina, Chlorella powder would be difficult to differentiate from spirulina by appearance but it is good for you as well, I would have to assume any powdered green algae would be difficult to identify by appearance. I use powdered algae in raising organisms from time to time, I like use a black powder that is a combo of several different algae and algae products, I don't have a can of it right now and I can't remember the exact name but it is not for human consumption... there are several different algae that are farmed for various reasons and people on ebay often repackage them and have no real idea what they are doing, it is also possible the algae was processed in some way that either interfered with it's absorption (maybe the first time) or processed in some way that allowed it to be digested better (the second time). -
I think it's mostly becasue children have no vioce when it comes to explotation, as i said before I could take a cattle prod and sugar cubes and teach a child to do anything, an adult might take the cattle prod and stick it up my ass. However I agree that everyone really needs to be protected to some extent from other people who are just out to exploit others, (just being a soulless bastard who doesn't give a crap about anyone but himself shouldn't be the best way to success) adults have the capacity to make decisions, they might be wrong but at some point you have to allow people to take responsibility for themselves, our society for better or worse seems to have decided that responsibility for your actions comes with an arbitrary age instead of the older you are the more responsible you are. If you provide no protection for anyone from the exploitation of others you will end up with psychopaths in charge (maybe that has already happened?) Many people seem to think that they have the right to teach their children anything they want and some seem to think that using them to make money is ok as well but we as a society put limits on what adults can do with children, even their parents, personally i don't think the restrictions are strict enough, but it's not for me to say but the precedence of protecting children from adults is already on the books, now it's just a matter of how far we want to take those restrictions... Great post BTW Captainpanic!
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Actually no, it's more like a separate "Genesis" so to speak of the long legless body form, so many creatures have exploited this form it's hard to remember them all, at least two completely different groups of lizards have evolved "leglessness", actually there might be more, but it would be more like if merkats evolved into humanoids than the relationship between apes and humans. There are many completely different families of fish with this shape, I think there is at least one long snake shaped shark, many amphibians (I can think of three completely different "genesis" of that body shape just in amphibians), lizards, and of course real snakes. Of the vertebrates only mammals (ferrets come pretty damn close, lol) and birds seem to have missed out on the snake shape as a evolutionary solution to the environment...
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SENC South Eastern North Carolina, sorry for forgetting many of us are from the rest of the real world. This place is reptile heaven (amphibians too) compared to the mountains where I grew up.