Moontanman

Not trying to prove anything bascule, I am just speculating on ID. i am not an a supporter of ID (not even close) and i see them trying to use all sorts of things like irreducible complexity to try to prove their point usually what they claim is just plain silly but if indeed the universe turns out to be not only to be user friendly in the extreme ( i mean the Hypothetical Star Trek universe is about as close to user friendly as possible and still resemble the reality we see) but to contain aliens that are basically humans (they can interbreed) wouldn't it give the strong anthropomorphic principle a big boost at the very least? I thought maybe a discussion about this was appropriate in the silly claims forum. Just BS'ing about speculative stuff. Not science. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged Good one Jill Lets assume the STNG universe instead of TOS universe;) at least the budget was bigger To be serious I can't see any possible mechanism that would account for aliens we could interbreed with humans To me that is the flaw in most ideas about aliens, even the ugly grays. is they look to much like humans for me to "believe"

After the intelligent dinosaur thread I think I'll go ahead and completely destroy any credibility i have and ask this question. If indeed at some point (preferably in the near future) we discover a way to travel FTL easily on the scale of the Star Trek Universe and we find the galaxy is full of very humanoid intelligent beings what does it say about the idea of intelligent design? I used to argue with a friend who said that TV shows like Star Trek were Satanic because they led people away from the idea of God. My answer was that they show is quite the opposite because if the real universe would turn out to be similar to the Star Trek universe it would pretty much prove the existence of, if not god, an intelligent designer. Not only would the discovery of such easily controlled power sources and FTL indicate the universe is designed to be user friendly the idea of very human aliens on other planets could not be accounted for by random chance (weak and strong anthropomorphic principle) Any thoughts?

Me me me, let me help too!

GMO's have great potential, they also have great potential problems. Accidentally creating a super bug would be a very bad thing but it seems highly unlikely. Imagine if you will a coconut like fruit that contains meat of some sort, a beef roast, shrimp, abalone, or chicken. Perennial corn with complete proteins, tomatoes that grow in salty water or even better rice that will grow in salty water. The idea of more nutritious foods would seem like a universally good idea. Organizations like Greenpeace tend to be anti corporation but they ignore the reality of need for more food. Small organic heirloom vegetable farmers cannot provide the world with food. The potential is great. i think that with just a little regulation the potential good of GMO's far out weight the problems.

I live in a cave dude, fires don't worry me, cave bears are a problem though.....

Only 40,000 generations? I would have thought it would have been millions over that time span. Interesting results though.

He wants to get to heaven toasty, he has to drag us down to get points with god. "if you want to get to heaven, you have to raise a little hell!">

I do indeed wish my state would allow medical MJ, I am a chronic pain patient but a few years ago i had to stop taking opiates like oxycontin simply because they were not only killing me but i had forgotten almost 10 years of my life. opiates kill, MJ does not!

Daniel, please do not think of this as a disadvantage. IQ tests do not measure your self worth in any way. It may very well be that you are like a great many people and tests just make you nervous. There so very many variables and as Jill pointed out your own drive and determination are the real Xfactor, not some tenuous IQ number. Pursue your dreams, do not allow anyone or anything to tell you what you cannot accomplish.

CDT, males do not breast feed, the male breasts are only there because all fetuses start out as female. The male breasts have nothing to do with breast feeding. Your assertion is nothing but obfuscation to throw the thread off topic.

At the end of the Cretaceous period dinosaurs were tending toward larger brains and grasping hands (some of them) In this thread lets discuss the possibility that a civilization of intelligent dinosaurs may have exacerbated the ecological collapse at the end of the Cretaceous and the proposed impactors might have just delivered the straw that broke the planets ecological back. Some say we are in the middle of a vast extinction caused by human activity, could an civilization of intelligent dinosaurs have had a similar effect? Here is a supporting thread to get the debate started. http://web.ukonline.co.uk/michael.magee/awwls/00/wls143.html

I've often wondered if the Cretaceous Tertiary boundary might have been marked by more than one impact. It always seemed unlikely to me that the Chicxulub impact event could have done in the entire planet but there is evidence on the moon that craters are sometimes caused by multiple impact events in the from of strings of craters and Shoemaker-Levy gave us some evidence of a comet breaking up after a close encounter and coming back to cause a multiple impact event. Such an event, even if it was several small impactors, would be devastating to the planets ecology, far more so than a large single impact event. I know, just me being a smart ass but in the pseudoscience forum it might be cool.

CDT, what do you mean "an aversion to discussing the topic of this thread"? I read it, it was out of date but still good read and it still contains good information about the ideas that stand at the root of modern evolutionary theory. You seem to be intent on arguing if it is still right or something similar. cut to the chase, what do you want to do besides use straw man arguments to support creationism? If you want to support creationism start your own thread and go for it, rest assured that dog won't hunt unless you have a completely new dog. The old dog is dead and fossilized.

Today it was overcast with a high pressure of 121170 millibars. The high was 495c with a light mist of sulfuric acid throughout most of the day. Winds were out of the West at 3 to 4mph..... Oh you mean in 2009! Well that was way before global warming went out of control......

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Why-Do-Women-Have-Breasts-46783.shtml http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_do_women_have_breasts Secondary sexual characteristics seem to be part of the answer and breastfeeding helpless infants seem to be the two most accepted answers. CDT what if anything does either of your links have to do with the OP?

Jill, the idea that birds did not evolve from tyrannosaurs is a totally straw man argument, both birds and tyrannosaurs evolved from a dinosaur much smaller and quite different from both birds and tyrannosaurs, this guy is just trolling for converts.

What if the earth was struck by a relativistic neutron star? Would it just trash the Earth (similar the pic i posted) or would it vaporise the earth? I once read a story about aliens destroying the earth. (some sort of interstellar war of whack a mole) but they used basket ball sized chucks of neutronium, one was anti-matter and one was was matter neutronium, they dropped them into the Earth and they orbited inside the earth until they finally came together at the center of the earth and "wump there it is" or was! The point is the neutronium didn't do much damage when it hit the earth, it acted like the earth wasn't even there. So if a black hole would just go straight through would a neutron star a few miles in diameter do the same thing?

While it would be foolish to say absolutely not, it would seem that if what we currently understand about the universe is true then an anti-matter black hole would be improbable to say the least.

I'm thinking about it. A coin will not spin when you are undergoing centrifugal force. NO No

Spin a coin, a spinning coin will not act properly if you spin it inside an object rotating for the effect of gravity. A spinning coin will not stand up on it's axis in side a space craft spinning for gravity.

Arthur C Clark used to idea of a black hole as a propulsion in his later space Odyssey books. I don't think he took into account hawking radiation.

The evaporation is so slow in a large black hole it takes many billions of years for it to evaporate. A tiny black evaporates much faster than large one and a tiny black hole would give off huge amounts of gamma rays and like a continuous nuclear explosion and finally as it evaporated down to less than enough mass to maintain it's event horizon it would explode in a huge explosion of energy, much like a multi-million megaton nuclear explosion. The photon is it's own anti-particle.