Moontanman

If we do go to Mars should we actually land on Mars or land on it's moons first? Does landing on the Martian moons first have any advantages?

Gold wires in electronics come to mind, gold wires in electric motors, gold is a very good conductor of electricity and doesn't corrode...

Gold or to be precise, it's value is inflated by it's use as currency. The addition of many times the gold we currently have would drop the price of gold but the boon to manufacturing where gold would be used if it weren't so expensive would create whole new markets for the metal. The idea of simply holding onto bullion is so Medieval in it's concept sweeping that away and using gold for a manufacturing resource would make sense as does using petroleum as feed stock instead of fuel. The price would drop but the things we could hake from it would make out lives better in the long term...

One thing to remember, if someone suggests that humans didn't evolve on Earth but go one to suggest we interbred with a species, ie Neanderthals, that did evolve here then you can be sure who ever is suggesting this has no idea what they are talking about!

He's come undun He didn't know what he was headed for And when He found what he was headed for It was too late! He's come undun He found a mountain that was far too high And when he found out he couldn't fly It was too late It's too late He's gone too far He's lost the sun He's come undun We wanted truth but all we got was lies Came the time to realize And it was too late He's come undun He didn't know what he was headed for And when we found what he was headed for PUTUS, it was too late It's too late He's gone too far He's lost the sun He's come undun Too many mountains, and not enough stairs to climb Too many churches and not enough truth was found Too many people with enough eyes to see Too many lives to end and not enough time dig It's too late He's gone…

Sorry about the moose berries, that was an oopsie!

Another one in Sacramento!

I was wondering if the cube square law would screw up a full sized version but even as a small drone it is still impressive. Have you seen those coordinated drone shows they put on it china recently? They were beautiful but when you thought of them in a military way they were ominous...

I honestly didn't mean for this to be compared to a UFO, since this is identified, and I know the title said Flying Saucer but this is about as close to a actual flying "Saucer" I have ever seen. The flying ability was what really caught my eye, I've seen lots of round flying machines but they never performed anything close to this! The US Air Force tried to develop a saucer shaped craft and failed miserably. A bit more development and this would a fiercely dangerous flying machine eve if it was a drone. Hard to shoot down something that can move like that. The wind tunnel tests were impressive to me but I didn't really know any better... Now having said that I have noticed it does seem to tend to move like flying saucers have been said to move in a falling leaf like motion when descending. Just a coincidence I am sure but still wild. If a real full size version of this was developed I think it would give modern fighter jets a run for their money... Ohyeah, did you notice the internal rotating part that serves as a gyroscope to stabilize it? I have been told a hundred times that not matter what spin seems to do for a frisbee it wouldn't have that effect on a flaying disc... I'm surprised it didn't have counter rotating parts...

I've read some of his stuff, he is a hack, but the flying frisbee seems to represent a scary possibility... Or even a couple of them...

The engineering that goes into this aircraft is amazing! I've never seen anything fly like this other than a frisbee!

I have had several papers sent to me as evidence of the supernatural and I find myself outclassed by the concepts to a great degree and would like to ask if anyone else can understand what is being claimed and if these are exampled of peer reviewed papers? http://www.esalq.usp.br/lepse/imgs/conteudo_thumb/Consciousness-and-the-double-slit-interference-pattern-Six-experiments.pdf? https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.01891/full?fbclid=IwAR37jC_1Y0NwdtYu2HcLwtHFebdZbbGEWcnWdaC0c7KiW74lje7_vZIACv4 https://journals.aps.org/rmp/abstract/10.1103/RevModPhys.85.471?fbclid=IwAR3xEL1sQc97SBNqFPaHYphZayZ7oMEiNisu53alhgYE2DBpGqGR_PXlfQA https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40509-019-00209-2?fbclid=IwAR0td3PLVpo_cOkBUvaXstwnxy3cghhTitTFTiUaI8OhNBUeUHiOpXaBzw8 I'm not sure if I'm being dazzled by brilliance or baffled by bullshit...

Agreed... but changing the environment to suit us and introducing exotic species is kind like what we (humans) do and have been doing for tens of thousands of years. My suggestion was bit tongue in cheek and maybe I should have made that clearer. But it is what we, as a species do... I have given this idea of why the oceans is not more widely covered by seaweed, this conundrum does have a logical solution. Mangroves are an example that can be compared. Mangroves surround the coast in vast areas of the tropics but they do not cover every coast, the reason is similar to why sargassum doesn't cover the entire or most oceans. Mangroves are temperature dependant, they cannot live where it freezes or the temps go below a certain tolerance, I'm not sure what that is, also mangroves grow best where they can catch and hold onto mud or sediment as it flows off the land, nutrients, also wind and waves also limit mangroves, on shores with high wave action is a regular thing mangroves tend not to grow. I can imagine in the future mangroves evolving to float out on the ocean and form huge islands of interlocking roots with the leaves and trunks above the water in warm ocean gyres but this is just fantasy... Sargassum is, as far as I know, kind of unique, it occurs only in one small area of one ocean. While currents do confine it to this area it does escape and is found all long the east coast washed up on shore after storms. I've seen it a couple feet deep in some areas on the beach, it has been used and mulch and fertilizer in past times. It does escape the "sargasso sea" but it either is immediately washed up on share by wave action or taken into cool or cold water where it cannot grow. A very similar if not identical "seaweed" I use that term because seaweeds are not vascular plants and are in fact members of the protist group if I am not mistaken. Be that as it may, a very similar but sessel version of this seaweed grows on rocky shores in the are as well and it is quite possible that the sargasso sea is the result of pieces being torn off that float away and are corralled by ocean currents in the area. I think the question of why it does cover more ocean, and it does get quite thick and widespread in some large areas on the sea surface, is significant. I think it's a unique to the area it's found in and if introduced to other gyres in other warm oceans it might take hold and one has to wonder why something similar hasn't evolved in other oceans and the answer might be that sargasso has evolved relatively recently from a brown seaweed that is normally attached to rocks in the immediate area and is often torn off by storms and some populations of this "plant" has managed to survive in the open ocean when contained in warm water by oceanic currents. The suspect does indeed grow in the surrounding area attached to rocks and has already evolved gas sacks to make it buoyant where it grows on rocks. I'm not sure if the oceanic version is genetically different from the form that grows on rocks but I suspect from personal observations that it is not...

Agreed...

I disagree, clusters of small pipes would do the trick if the walls were supported by the pressure...

I'm pretty sure that at one hundred feet you need about 45 psi... I am an open water scuba diver, pressure increases at the rate of 15 psi per 33 feet..

Off the coast of south america cold water wells up naturally and supports a wide ecosystem from sardines to humboldt squid. A series of solar powered pumps could use thin tubes in clusters to carry the air. The thin tubes are more resistant to pressure than one large tube and the air pressure would support the tube against the water pressure. Over time you could establish a similar ecosystem. Unusual currents have brought the humboldt squids as far north as washington state in recent years temporarily creating a new fishery for the huge squids. Hmmm squid steaks on the grill! Ecosystems can be manipulated and appropriate species will move in...

I've grown sargassum weed in an aquarium, water movement is important as are nutrients. If you really wanted to increase the nutrients you could anchor a bouy in very deep water and pump down air to make a rising current to bring up nutrient rich water. This is easy to do but it changes the local environment and that might not be desirable...

I understand that, I am not thinking of humans, but life in general.

Think of it this way, totally speculation, take the continent of Africa, divide it in half, one half is the peak of modern ecosystem (before people fucked it up) the other half is the cretaceous at it's peak. Would the cretaceous animals wipe out the modern mammals? would the modern mammals wipe out the cretaceous animals or would they merge and form a unique combined ecosystem?

If we could move Venus, adding water should be child's play and that would be the Key. Earth has about as much CO2 as Venus but most of ours is locked up in carbonate rocks. Add a few comets, spin Venus up to a more reasonable day thength and you would, probably in a rather long time,have a habitable planet. Water is the key! Recent research points to Venus having oceans up until as recently as one billion years ago...

Besides the concept of large rocky planets with atmospheres dominated by hydrogen and water oceans there is the possibility of large ice planets with dense hydrogen atmospheres and oceans of methane. Imagine an ice world 20,000 miles in diameter due to being mostly ice it could have a gravity of one gee due to the cold it could hang on to hydrogen. They may be more plentiful than earth like worlds.

The series of novels is quite long, I like to find good stories that play out over several novels and The World War series has at least 6 or more novels in two different but connected series. The best part was there was no star trek fantasy technology, the aliens had pretty much our current 21st century tech and like humans they have some serious character flaws, drug addiction, lust for power, sexual problems, and they introduced their own native animals who began to wreak the ecosystem much like humans did when they traveled the world. The addition of real people places and conflicts added to the realism.

Thank you, I am very proud!

Yet another take on this. https://www.livescience.com/navy-ufo-videos-authentic-classified.html