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The Creation speaketh a universal language, independently of human speech or human language, multiplied and various as they may be. It is an ever-existing original, which every man can read. It cannot be forged; it cannot be counterfeited; it cannot be lost; it cannot be altered; it cannot be suppressed. It does not depend upon the will of man whether it shall be published or not; it publishes itself from one end of the earth to the other. It preaches to all nations and to all worlds; and this word of God reveals to man all that is necessary for man to know of God." - Thomas Paine

No pain, No gain. If people want to change whats happening to them they should be prepared to fight to the death. "they may take our lives, but they will never take our FREEDOM!"

centrifugal force is reacting to centripetal force which is causing the curved path of the satellite. the net can be pos, neg or zero resulting in the barycenter

Specific orbital energy can equal zero and does when the body's kinetic energy is exactly equal to its potential energy. This is the balancing act. Positive, zero or negative net energy affects the shape of the orbit.

It was a compliment on your constructive input rather than making ridiculous comparisons and irrelevant statements. Your right about some people, others just dont give a hoot or lack the capacity to. I believe science is the only way to answer the questions of creation. Our goal is to unlock those secrets. I have faith that humankind will do so before we destroy ourselves.

We are responsible for the effects of our own choices. Unfortunately, the choices of others affect us. In that case they are responsible. This is liability. Sometimes it is simply mother nature. We must learn from our mistakes and be more prepared and informed so to avoid or invite the effects of others choices.

The fact is Krash that what i have presented here is my definition of God as I am unsatisfied with the refutable traditions and beliefs of mainstream orthodox followers. I believe that God is the master of infinite complex energy and the source of the energy of our creation.

intelligent response preceeds you Swansont. People need answers in order to cope with the unknown. People seek answers in order to attain enlightenment. In order to find the right answers we must ask the right questions. For instance, what determined the scale of the natural constants of the universe? Will we have the complete handbook for our universe when we have mastered the laws of physics? These questions certainly give us something to work towards.

There is no special case to the concept of infinity, nor does my logic require a special circumstance, the concept of infinity is common knowledge, I am making a an association between infinity and the concept of God.

krash, your going to have to make complete sentences if you want a response. Creation didnt occur from nothing it occurred from a singularity in which the fundamental forces were united and the total energy of our universe was contained within it. I believe the source of that complex energy is God. We are all shimmering forms of that single energy. Therefore I believe we are all a part of God. God manifests in all that exists.

good question, of course infinity has no beginning and no end, when we grasp infinity, we begin to grasp the concept of God

I told you the fact that physical constants rule nature and those constants have scale, intensity, amplitude, symmetry, harmony, etc. is what necessitates a rule maker. I showed you an example of the energy density constant but you were oblivious to its existence. Natural law has a cause just like any effect does. The origin of that cause is what we disagree on. I say it is the supreme lawmaker, your position is not to have one other than to deny a master.

Way to state the obvious, except in my example the driver is at fault because of his poor choice to text while driving. The point was every effect has a specific cause. The choice I speak of is the choice of ones actions. You have no point other than to dodge the point. This is the typical arguement of those who are used to dealing with main stream religious ideas. You must know how one defines God before chiming in. My advise is read all the posts before commenting. In answer to your question, God has created our realm, set the rules, and allowed us to choose our path.

I obviously have pondered the idea because i made the statement, "words are the meager attempt of man to describe what already exists." Those are my words! You misinterpreted "lawful harmony of the world", doesnt matter who said it. You referred to a quote not made by me but by monday assignment die. You dont even know whom your responding to. It is clear who needs to "comprehend" whats being said.

What im saying is that no matter how many different perceptions (religions) of God there are, they do not change the nature of God. Words are meager attempts to describe something which already exists. Laws that govern cause and effect are self evident in nature. God is the same for everyone, the origin of one complex energy, in which everything is a constituent. You quoted Spinoza "lawful harmony of the world" and miss-interpreted him, "referring to humanity". In answer to your question, God manifests in everything that exists because everything is a part of one complex energy. Your question has been answered many times already but you have failed to understand. The words of man do not change the nature of what already exists, they are only attempts to describe it. The only thing ive said that comes from a book are the quotes I offered.

Your interpretation of Spinoza was completely inaccurate. I gave you the accurate interpretation but you still havent grasped the concept. You continue to disregard everything Ive said as if you havent even read it.

Do we blame the car maker for the crash? The car was intended for transportation. The driver chooses to text while he drives and he crashes. It is the drivers fault not the car maker. Crashing is the result of negative choice just as suffering is, whether it is self inflicted, inflicted by others, or an act of nature. Choice is the important factor and is the privilege of the living.

He is not referring to humanity. The lawful harmony of the world he refers to is the physical laws of nature and the complex association by which they are governed. Simply put, and my main point, laws of such harmony and predetermination reflect a supreme lawmaker. That is what all Deists believe. Nature is self evident of God.

Heres a good quote from a well-known religious expert. "The laws of Nature are changeless, unchangeable, and there are no miracles in the sense of infringement or interruption of Nature's laws." "God is that indefinable something which we all feel but do not know ." Mohandas Gandhi

My appeal is for you to recognize that some very intelligent people are not satisfied with the default position, and that scientific experts like Einstein also recognized that the complex essence of nature implies a deity. As far as the sexual brutalization comment you and dumbloke can have your own conversation

I will offer this quote on topic "Whatever there is of God and goodness in the universe, it must work itself out and express itself through us. We cannot stand aside and let God do it" Albert Einstein

I will offer this quote from someone most scientist respect, "science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind" Albert Einstein

Poor choice of words on my part, my apologies Moontanman. I am certainly not trying to convert non believers. I have given my opinion on thread topic, I have defined my responses and have analyzed the thoughts of others.

I have told you that the very essence of nature is governed by predetermined laws. Is it such a stretch to envision a lawmaker? What one names something does not change its nature. A name is merely a label. God is the best we have come up with.