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Could we all agree that humankind should put aside their differences and join the race for knowledge? As that knowledge grows so will our perception. The hunt for knowledge is the quest for meaning. The quest for everything, not nothing. It is our only chance to survive. How many countless alien civilizations may have already destroyed themselves? Will we do the same, or shall we grow as our knowledge does? In a universe of equilibrium, an intrinsic balancing of positive and negative forces, it is the power of the living to choose to create or destroy. Like a feather falling on one end or the other which may teeter the grand scale of the universe into oblivion or perpetual growth. Humility is admitting we dont know everything, and it is the path to knowledge.

Einstein Cartan theory or ECT adds the torsion of spacetime to the curvature based description of gravity and relates torsion to the density of intrinsic angular momentum. In fact, simple supergravity is equivalent to ECT with a massless, anti-commuting Rarita-Schwinger field as the source, a torsion field, or spin field. Gravity does spiral at all scales, fact. Gravity waves are torsion waves. They oscillate longitudinaly.

People have used the term "God" to explain the unexplainable. In this way God is a coping mechanism for the unknown. An answer to the questions of forever. Even though they did not and still do not have all the answers, people do understand the idea of infinity. If we define God as infinite knowledge, we realize that the more knowledge we discover the more our perception of God grows. It is called spiritual divinity, ones sense of existence, the vastness we perceive when we close our eyes. Knowledge is not magic, it is reality. Science is the religion of God. God is all that has been, all that is, and all there could ever be. God is forever! How much will we know of God before our time is up?

Its not meaningless John, as obviously Einstein understood. Its just above your paygrade.

I realized last night it would take years to try and convey knowledge of fluid dynamics, octaves of light , and magnetic vortices to any who lack vision. John the post in religion is " we are the players". It is obvious by your comments you have no clue of the value of history in the field of science. Swanson, all the Navier Stokes equations for fluid dynamics can be found under that title. As for all the other naysayers I offer this path to enlightenment. Maybe you will come off your imaginary high horses and learn something. You only have to research the following terms: magnetic vortex dynamics, (superfluids) ,magnetic confinement fusion (Tokamaks) Cymatics and octaves of light multiple vortex rings I sincerely hope you take the time to do this as you may find some humility in opening your mind. I can promise one thing, if you do this you WILL learn something. A picture says a billion words. Regards

Give Feynman his due and correct the spelling of his name in your posts.

In response to you John that Kelvin has nothing to do with this topic is just a plain foolish statement. I have shown you that his ideas and several others on the relationship of spectral color to physical properties and the idea of vortex rings are the basis of my investigation. The men I stated earlier in my history lesson are key players in the discovery of many important aspects of physics. You have looked for any opportunity to cast down on what ive said. Are you just holding a grudge because your bubble was burst in the religion forum. Or is it just that you and ACG52 are from the good ole boys school in England and cant take having your feathers ruffled. To that end I say welcome to the USA.

Swanson, you said,"Classically no, I never offered it as a rotating mass?" I said take the earth as an example, is the earth not a rotating mass? Gravitational force does spiral. All matter has intrinsic angular momentum. Wherever there is momentum there is inertia. When a car stops, what is it you feel? You certainly do not have to be in a gravitational field for this to happen. Gravity is simulated in space by rotation. One only has to look at a cloud of hydrogen gas forming a star or a forming spiral galaxy. Matter follows this spiral "path" towards its center until an equalizing orbit is achieved. There is a detailed drawing of exactly how it does spiral in an earlier post of mine on coriolis and centrifugal force. The math for vortex propagation can be found in Helmholtzs predictions for vortex ring propagation using the Navier-Stokes equations for fluid dynamics as I also stated earlier. Gravity waves are a subject of current study, they do exist. From pure logic one can deduce that they must be a wave of purley kinetic energy, no electromagnetism, just ripples in the fabric of spacetime like the ripples on a pond. No one here has offered any ideas of their origin or properties, I have. When current satellite data is deciphered, we will all know more about the subject. So gravity waves are currently being "established" and my hypothesis of the 3rd and 4th components of a transverse wave as inertial by products of oscillation is not that far fetched.

Was my history summary not educational ACG52? Let me guess, you knew all about it, yet it still was meaningless to you. Once again you have no specific inquiries just typical insults lacking any original thought or meaning. Swanson, as a mass rotates doesnt the radial component of gravity become a spiraling component Inducing centrifugal and centripetal forces? If em radiation does propagate as vortex rings , wouldnt these same inertial forces be produced? I am well aware that a magnetic field induces an electric field and vice versa, and the orthoganal relationship to forward motion, just because one gives rise to the other does not remove the inertial component.

I am offering a hypothesis, and you disagree, its a part of the learning process. Youve said its not possible, how are you so sure? I asked you a specific question too, Can you offer any explanation on the origin of gravity waves? What is your specific question John? fact is that no one knows everything about them which is why we have a billion dollar satellite looking for them now. That is why this is theoretical, we are using what foundation we do have and adding our imagination to try to fill in the blanks. What might work and not contradict any law? Do you think it was meaningless when Lord Kelvin postulated that the vortex rings may very well represent atomic structure? Do you realize how wealthy he became from all his electrical gadgets. Where would we be if he had said, "thats impossible." If anything the history demonstrates a meaning and a need for further discovery.

Is it really all meaningless nonsense, ACG52? arent we past that. Doesnt the history have some value for you or help you in any way to see where im coming from? Im not here to stroke my ego Im trying to get feedback on my thoughts and maybe learn something from it. Isnt it obvious that Im not the fool you mistook me for? If anything is meaningless here it is your comments. How about some common courtesy. Do you agree that its possible for gravity to act as the 3rd and 4th components of a transverse wave as inertial reactions to oscillation? Can anyone else enlighten me on the origin of gravity waves? Can you tell me how they are produced? Take away the 1st and 2cnd components of the transverse wave, the em component, and you have a wave of pure kinetic energy, the gravity wave

For every action there is an equal but opposite reaction. Consider a transverse wave in 3d space. As each wave oscillates from peak to trough at 90 degrees to each other a 3rd and 4th component must exist to counter act each one. Imagine when the electric component peaks, at the same time, on the same plane, but on the opposite side of the axis an inertial reaction also peaks. Likewise for the magnetic component. Gravity is not a compression force here but an inertial reaction. The "path" of the energy flow highlights the structure. A sphere is the platform. Think of planet earth and the electromagnetic field, it is a torus. Now overlap it with the flow of gravity spiraling in from all directions towards the center. If the forces are all constituents of a complex energy then they all must work in unison. My gut tells me that the strong nuclear force has as much to do with gravity as it does with quarks and gluons. As far as the Quantum vacuum goes we know it has a specific energy density and inherent constants. Im proposing a spectral framework which is revealed as light travels through it.

I am simply trying to show the dynamics of light production from the source to the observer as one intrinsically connected system in which gravity is always present. As far as the spectral platform, I am trying to demonstrate a geometric model of the relationship between gravity and photons from source to observer. The key point is that at any scale gravity is always present. This leads to the postulation that gravity has some inherent geometric structure represented by the way energy flows through it. Keplar, Bohr,Rene Descartes, IssacNewton, Voltaire all envisioned a relationship of spectral colour and musical tone to physical properties. Thomson, better known as Lord Kelvin mapped the relationship of spectral colour to temperature with the Kelvin scale. Thomson and Tait did experiments testing Helmholtz's predictions of the behavior of vortex rings, a torus, better known as the donut or smoke ring. The Navier-Stokes equations for fluid dynamics used in Helmholtz's predictions on vortex rings were verified by Thomson and Tait. What it showed was a vortex ring has an inherent tendency towards stability and a curious leapfrogging behavior where the front vortex grows as the rear approaches and the rear is pulled through its center when two or more rings are present. In a vortex ring the circular axis is the electric component(electron) and the magnetic component(positron) coils around it like a spring. The idea here is that em radiation propagates as vortex rings through a series of 7 spectral colour hyperboloids induced by the inertial gravitational effects. An inertial gravitational feild. A torus degenerates to a sphere as its circular axis shrinks. I propose this as a geometric model for the dynamics of light flow through the aetherial quantum vacuum. I propose that in every transverse wave their are two gravitational waves inertially opposing the electric and magnetic waves opposite of each peak and trough. Notice how wavelength and temperature relate to the angle of the spectral colours when they are divided this way. It is no coincidence that the colours and music notes divide equally within a sphere. As far as testing or measuring, scale centimeters to nanometers and break out your ruler. I invite intelligent comments as thats why I am posting here. This subject fascinates me and believe there is much to be gained.

Was the universe not present before the words of mankind labeled it? Words are mans attempt to describe something that already exists. The only diffference is the words used to describe it, and those words are a product of environment and tradition.

I realized it the whole time. In nature, gravity is essential for bringing atoms close enough for the short range of the strong nuclear force to prevail. Of course astronomical collisions and high energy explosions can also do this. Gravity is still an essential step. So in this way gravity is a natural initiator of photon production. Since gravity obeys the inverse square law, at planck scales it is easy to see the association of gravity and the strong nuclear force. Now that we have reviewed science 101, how about something constructive on the dynamics of photon propagation and the inertial effects of a transverse wave.

Is it weird? Or is it obvious. Energy and mass are different forms of the same thing. Are we not all concentrated forms of shimmering energy? We are all constituents of a universal one.

I agree, the creator can be who or what. It is human error to personify God, for God is the sum of all that exists.

Gravity forces the atoms close together so that the electrostatic repulsion can be overcome by the attractive strong nuclear force. Does that spell it out? Or is this merely a game of word salad bandits? In high energy experiments, gravity is substituted by powerful magnetic fields which accelerate the particles to necessary collision velocity. All of this is widely know and a mood point.

We control the game, that is choice. We do not make the rules. The rules are physics. Like I said, science reveals the method of creation. The "rules". It is not a game of amusement, it is a journey of enlightenment.

are you implying that it is not gravity that is the driving force of nuclear reactions? Are you serious! how do you think hydrogen gases coalesce to form stars in the first place?

Are we not born with the power to choose? Shall we create or destroy? Who created this realm if not the creator? These ideas are at at the root of religious debate and I intend to do just that.

"no it doesnt" ??? What do you think is happening at the center of our sun? gravity is compressing hydrogen into helium and the resulting energy is released in the form of photons. Is this science 101 or attack of the word salad bandits?

God created the realm and the rules. We are the players. The game is choice. Science does not disprove God. It investigates truth and reveals the methods of creation. Those who seek knowledge, seek God. Infinite potential has existed since the beginning.

Gravity compresses matter at the source and expands light in the form of photons. Does Gravity dissappear on the way to the observer? No, it is an inertial counteraction to the photons oscillation and a propelling and resisting factor to its forward momentum. I invite anyone to produce another model or even a shred of constructive review.

It is a model for inertial gravitational effects on a photon, and the intrinsic relationship of spectral color to wavelength, temperature, frequency, and the natural music tones. The EM spectrum is not a flat line extending to infinity in both directions, It is a sphere. That sphere is the platform where gravity and light interact. I agree it would make a very colorful word salad, tasty too. For those who lack vision I offer this quote. "It is the weakness of the orthodox follower of any received system to impute insanity to the solitary dissident." Augustus De Morgan, "A Budget of Paradoxers," 1872