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In mathematics, it is. But the point was not that it will always be true (which it will be) but that there is no time involved in the statement.

And your point is? Take the black hole away, and the solar system will continue undisturbed.

Indeed. Yes, it is what we do that adds the time element, it is not inherent in the mathematics. So once the proof exists, it does not have a time element; it is a number of statements of equivalence (to simplify) that connect one thing to another in a "timeless" way.

That was because you asked about "always". It has nothing to do with the point. Yes. Our methods for calculating it are. No. No. It is just describing a relationship.

So you think numbers only exist when we are reading or writing them? That is an interesting point of view. It also raises the problem that you can never write down all of pi, and yet it has a well-defined value. No. But if x2 = 4, then x = 2. There is no time associated with that equivalence. (22 always equals 4)

But such a sequence of steps, like the digits of pi, only have a temporal component because you write them down or read them. The derivation exists as a whole (like pi) with no implication of time. If you say that x2 = 4, you don't have to wait for the derivation to happen and x to become 2. It is implicit.

I think that what you are describing comes under the field of psychology. Which is a science. Job done.

The question doesn't make much sense. What does "the universe is 1 m in length" mean?

You could, for example, calculate the gravitational effect of the black hole compared to all the other stars at the same distance. Or even the effect compared to, say, Jupiter. Or Pluto. Or a grain of dust. Or the mass of the black hole as a percentage of the galaxy as a whole. Or ... up to you.

Let's see the evidence then

I take that to mean you have given up pretending that the black hole has any effect on the Earth?

! Moderator Note I hardly think that asking you to present your ideas in writing (a technology that has been around for thousands of years) is "nonsensical". Trying to present technical information via a video is pretty nonsensical. It is a terrible medium for the task. ! Moderator Note OK. But I can't see that anyone is losing anything. Do not start another thread on this subject.

Please show us your calculations to demonstrate that the black hole has any measurable effect on the Earth. (I am focusing on this because the rest of your post is just irredeemable nonsense.)

! Moderator Note Gosh, yes. How on earth did anyone communicate science and technology before the invention of video!? Just try writing. You know, words. With some diagrams, if necessary. If you want to reference other peoples work, then find published "words" and "pictures". It really isn't that hard. (If you can only find videos, then that means that there is no good, reliable information available.) If you don't want to follow the rules of the forum, we can close the thread.

! Moderator Note Similar threads merged. I would recommend a library or bookshop (online or physical)

That black hole has absolutely no effect on life on Earth. But perhaps the same could be said about traditional gods.

People have been saying this ever since the invention of writing (and presumably before then, as well). It doesn't seem to have happened yet

! Moderator Note OK. This started badly and has gone badly downhill. Try immatureschoolboysforum.com instead.

Why don't you include your siblings children (and they and their siblings' children) in this? That brings the probability closer to 1 (over sensible timescales, although perhaps not a 1 billion years). It may be helpful to look at it from the other end. How many people alive today are descendants of some notable figure in the past? Let's say Charlemagne. Well he had some children, and some of them had some children, and so on. By your math, his bloodline should have pretty much died out by now, right? But actually, pretty much everyone of European descent alive today is descended from Charlemagne: https://www.theguardian.com/science/commentisfree/2015/may/24/business-genetic-ancestry-charlemagne-adam-rutherford

! Moderator Note Provide the mathematics and the evidence supporting it in your very next post, otherwise this thread will be closed.

You are not even going to attempt to answer my questions? No surprises there.

Playing the Nazi Card in the Third Reich

Today I learned that Nazi was originally a diminutive of the name Ignatz, which was used to describe someone who was a bit stupid do clumsy. So it became an obvious nickname for the National Socialists: https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/13551/is-nazi-a-diminutive-of-ignatius

😄😆 😄😆🤣😀 😄😆🤣😀 🤣😀 Takes a deep breath... 😄😆🤣😀 😄😆🤣😀 😄😆🤣😀 😄😆🤣😀 😄😆🤣😀 😄😆🤣😀 😄😆🤣😀 😄😆🤣😀 😄😆🤣😀 That is the Big Bang model. What is this "energy lost by the universe" ? What is the evidence for this ? Time is a vacuum? That's a new one. What is the "fourth dimension of space"? What is evidence is there for the "fourth dimension of space"? "Vixra" 🙄 Aren't you even slightly embarrassed by posting all this?

Well, there is gravitational time dilation. But it would be more accurate to say that both gravity and the time dilation are the consequences of the presence of mass-energy. In a gravitational field or an expanding universe, yes.