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''The main advantage of an electromagnet over a permanent magnet is that the magnetic field can be rapidly manipulated over a wide range by controlling the amount of electric current. However, a continuous supply of electrical energy is required to maintain the field.'' ''Magnetic separation is a process in which magnetically susceptible material is extracted from a mixture using a magnetic force. This separation technique can be useful in mining iron as it is attracted to a magnet.'' ''In thermodynamics, work performed by a system is the energy transferred by the system to another that is accounted for by changes in the external generalized mechanical constraints on the system. As such, thermodynamic work is a generalization of the concept of mechanical workin physics.'' ''In physics, a force is said to do work when acting on a body there is a displacement of the point of application in the direction of the force. For example, when a ball is held above the ground and then dropped, the work done on the ball as it falls is equal to the weight of the ball (a force) multiplied by the distance to the ground (a displacement).'' I am unsure if this is what you want, but this is where my thought just went, Wiki articles, I tried explain a while back about the Doppler, been a switch in direction, either travelling with waves or opposed to the waves , creating more or less force. Hence longer wavelengths when travelling in conjuction with the waves,and shorter when opposing the waves. The wave having force , energy pressure on the surface. They still repel if i let go until they reach their very own event horizon, an equilibrium of force. But they are still repelling. mass becomes greater than the force of the magnets

Well it is pretty and the effect caused by the two opposing forces, and ok i will try find some references I will try.

cite? use quotes?

If i put my elastic bands and balls in space, there will be no change, the band will stay taught, No evidence, really, so you are now saying that there is no force involved in repelling emr? The evidence is has clear has day. The sun gives off energy waves, trying to travel into a wave is a force. "When one body exerts a force on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction on the first body." The magnetic field v EMR?

The opposite reaction to throwing a ball in a pond, is movement of the pond, and the energy is conserved by the pond. I am not arguing gravity with you, I am saying that it is not just gravity that makes the orbits etc, there is several acting forces.

strength of A and B would only define distant between the two masses. Holding a ball in the air and shouting anti-gravity, only if the ball was magnetically suspended , I am not tying magnets together, I am allowing the force of repel to reach its distance, then adding a slightly tighter elastic band to the structure, the band will always be taught.

Nothing needs to hold the Sun, you are just been silly now and awkward, the Physics in my diagram works, imagine putting two balls inside an elastic band, or magnets, that were repelling each other, both balls want to travel away from each other, but the elastic band contains them, I do not need to hold any of it. the force is still there, Calculate the forces involved, that is what they probably said to Faraday, did it make him any less incorrect because he could not do the maths? I need a Maxwell. Mars has a core, nothing says that Mars is not magnetic in the core, just because there is no external field been created.

Firstly , I am not making things up, my ideas are calculated , not by maths but by logical reasoning, you say magnets do not repel yet I can push a magnet with another magnet and they will not touch. I do experiments if you remember. And you say calculate the relevant strengths, not considering equilibrium needs little F to become offset in a near vacuum. Added - The Earth's magnetic field repels EMR.

I do understand what you are saying, and there is no problem keeping the current maths, it works for humanity. However, the explanation of gravity in my opinion is incorrect, trying to go straight, centrifugal forces, does not compute in my brain has been the truth when there is several other forces involved. You know two magnets of the same polarity can never touch, you know they repel even if a weak force, you also know that gravity attracts matter. The sun and the Earth push and pull each other by different forces not one force been gravity. My diagram above, is it correct in a physical sense? the forces making an equilibrium.

The pond was to represent waves, The Physical process of opposite reaction, all movement creates opposite motion in time and space, A comet will have a comet tail, a ship at sea will have a trail behind it, The suns pattern ,shape of fields and energy will be directional opposite to direction of the suns travel axis. An Ellipse orbit can be only created by forward movement of the sun, The Earths magnetism is made in the core, it expands outwards until it meets an opposing force, i.e the sun F of magnetism. They were both correct assumptions from history A is repelled by B, and B is repelled by A. C is drawn towards D and D is drawn towards C.

I am not tossing words about, thermodynamic increase or decrease of any matter changes its mass, only on a very tiny scale, but in a near vacuum , meaning space, a small increase or decrease could change orbital paths of entire solar systems. very little F is needed to move anything in space.

The Sun is attracting the ground but repelling the core, the core is attracting the ground but repelling the sun, Magnetic fields opposing other of the same polarity magnetic fields have a force , they try to push each other back, the space between becomes ''pressured'', pulling and pushing at the same time, is what im trying to say . I did a model, explained that model, I do not get it....? Ok, i will give u a test, spin a ball in a pond and the ripples will be circular, spin a ball in a pond and add forward momentum and the ripples will ellipse. Magnetic fields bend out of shape by momentum?

is ,s entropy?

What is attract?, are you serious, a pin is attracted to a magnet, a magnet is attracted to a pin, and now im thinking you use a different word? Correct I have no idea, and know current will work because it was made to fit, but that does not mean that there is not a proper explanation of gravity works, rather than spiraling down a funnel trying to go straight.

yes but that is using current formula, the what we currently use, but in my opinion has a really bad explanation of how gravity works. I appreciate that Einstein , Newton , and others have spent probably decades making maths fit, and the maths you have currently will work because it was made to fit, so can not fail. I am trying to show a model that shows what gravity actually is, there been different forces involved. 1. force is equal to attract 2.force is equal to repel 3.matter , force is equal to distant i.e the crust, the mantle , attracted to the core with been the nearer. 4.the sun repelling the core, the core repelling the sun, same energy magnetic fields. 5.stationary orbits in space , adjusting by thermodynamics intake/outtake 6. Lifters taking on the same electromagnetic frequency to the Earth's core.

I thank you for pointing it out, but how do we define two different forces at work, when the forces are of a different value? My diagram shows the standard, Earth been drawn to the sun by gravity f=mag, is that correct? mass accelerated by gravity. The second calculation shows matter been stopped, repelled by two of the same magnetic fields. The pressure between two fields? I should of put a lower case M on the top equation, and represented it has matter would that make more sense?

OH , sorry, does magnetism have a weight? would i change it to force?

I am sorry I thought I had answered it, that is why I asked what was the science definition of work, then I can see my error in my definition. And just to add, this is why the Cavendish experiment worked in my opinion. Thermodynamic equilibrium

F=force P=pressure mf=magnetic field m=mass

I thank you for the answers and information provided, I did say I did not want to mention my definition of gravity, but has the Moderator pointed out , it was rude of me not to answer the question. I know you require me to make some maths to fit any theory or model etc, so this path I am avoiding now. I will have to agree that my machine may fail, or will result in intervals of energy rather than a consistency. And finally on this thread, what do you mean by ''work''? Thank you sir for the kind answer, and I will keep thinking, and keep trying, and one day , even if by luck , I may stumble across something. I thank you for your patience, and in curiousness ''if'', I could of increased the mass of the northern matter, it would of worked?

internal workings I think I meant, internal, making external forces, external forces that attract, been gravity, and a magnetic field that repels, repelling the suns rays, I do not for one minute believe that the sun is falling and we spiral around a quantum funnel. I believe the Earths core to be the same has the sun in type of energy, I believe the matter of the Earth is attracted to the core, but also the Matter of Earth is attracted to the Sun, but stays hugging the Earth, been the closer. I believe the Sun repels the core and the core repels the Sun, and the outcome is an equilibrium of critical balance. Thermodynamics playing a part. I place a pin by a magnet, but not to close, that the magnetic field takes hold of the pin, over time although there is distance between the pin and magnet, the pin will become slightly magnetized by the thermodynamics involved. Helium is like a lifter, electrical energy making it hover up ,up, and away. The equilibrium of energy making it more positive against the core , repelling it. The Hutchings effect explained , because he changed the equilibrium of matter by frequency of waves transmitted.

Forgive my ignorance , that looks like an alien language to me, but I will take your word for it that the mass change is tiny, and tiny probably not enough difference to make the motion. Maybe I could consider the same concept using a different material than iron, aluminium maybe, or copper. Or would the result be the same?

I would not know where to start with the calculation you suggest. I do know that in critical balancing, there is very little force needed to make an off balance. And the pyramid design , needs little force to fall over if on its tip, it is a natural shape the will always land feet first, the greater volume of mass area , always finding gravity , but I can see that the concept may be flawed, unless I could harness more energy maybe....