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Water is used in a bong to purify the smoke that comes out of the flute. water does float in the air it evaporates and becomes tiny particles ? smoke travels through water very well sorry for the diagram it is google pic The carbon dioxide in smoke can absorb more heat than water psi? It is a shame you can not just suck the clouds into a huge cargo plane...........through a carbon filter

I am sorry , I should put word in my diagrams then theres no mistake, I do not know what q,v,e or b even represents, I needed you to know this which ever way I got the message across. ''you have 2 charged massive objects and you're saying the electromagnetic and gravitational forces cancel out?'' You guys know how to do the correct maths and correct tags

Remember when i asked on a keyboard how to do all the respective symbols in place, I could not do it still, it is gravity and lorenz force The equilibrium of force , like the ground pushes back, fn = 0

Yes exactly that, the arrows are in direction of the opposing forces, the arrows are not in their relative positions, the force is isotropic on both accounts.

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Unless I ask questions based on the thermodynamics and let you answer it for yourselves. In this picture it is of smoke in water, how does this compare in thermodynamics to a cloud? With it been a cloud of smoke? Smoke is denser than water so can absorb more heat than the water?

arrr,so thats what that means, so what would it be called? Fn? FnE? elasticity?

I do not understand about ions, but i do understand other thread answers. Yourself answering yes the earth emits electrons, so if we add an electron field to tin foil? and you admitted electrons repel electrons, then the tin foil is surely repelled by the Earth emitting electrons? Does the sun emit electrons? does the earth emit electrons? Is electron repelling electrons a strong force or weak force? Does the sun emit enough electrons strong enough to repel electrons from the earth? I did try to explain this before, but used the words thermodynamics, which was incorrect.

Yes a tin foil lifter, I watched a youtube documentary and they said they do not understand how it gets to thrust from the ground, the only thrust I can see is electron field v electron field of the ground, anti gravity by using the magnetic/electron flow of the earth. It is directional , so any frequency equal to that and it has no choice but to follow the flow, hence up. I tried to explain in another thread that energy has, like the ground Fn, and by direction we can propel using the magnetic field by out weighting mass with electrical field generated. I am unsure about ions, when there is electrons clearly at work? And this was my gravity theory , that the orbit is created by electrostatic propulsion, the sun emits electrons and the earth emits electrons, hence repelling force equal to gravity.

Thank you , and yes I can see what you are saying about the electrons been lost to the atmosphere, and a lot of energy needed to create enough force. Mods can I switch this thread and mention lifters been on the same principle of the idea I said that already exists? I read that no one knows why a lifter lifts, electric propulsion?

Thank you for the link and yes I am resisting to saying what I think, although yes , in some of the information I have already received, I could make several cases for debate.

The two arrows represent the direction of force of the electrons, the vehicle is emitting electrons from its rear, the force of the electrons repelling electrons should make f=ma according to what I have been told on here? I want to push the electrons along, by using electrons v electron for the force? It works with the same polarity of magnets, except we have to push a magnet, where has the electrons will travel un-aided.? A linear motor, learn something new every day, maybe my idea is flawed in the fact that you already have simular have i just invented an already invention, is this how an electric train works?

Ok, complex, but no that complex to understand what is happening. Clouds - they act has a thermodynamic filter? They are grey because of carbon increase and other filtered elements, where as, if there was no carbon they would be transparent like water?

Thank you, yes I understand that the thermodynamics is a part of a random variable system.

You should write Wiki, Thank you that was very simple to understand, So torque is force that is not applied to the center of a mass, forcing angular momentum? If my tracking is not aligned correctly on a car, the torque will try to force my steering in the direction it is off?

Ok so you are saying this diagram but with atmosphere to consider?

Do you mean like the sides of the magnet?

Thank you for the correction I am not surprised I confuse you all with my context at times, I thought any gain was thermodynamics, with been energy related.

Arr i see, but also , I have to ask, if the atmosphere were to be full of energy, am I correct in thinking that then the earth would not emit anything? or as the atmosphere heats, will it slow down how much is released because the exchange rate is slowed by the atmosphere been warm with energy and a slower intake rate as such?

Thank you for confirming the information, I thought this was apart of thermodynamics?

I speculate that in principle , and from forum information received, that the under diagram would work. Try to speculate something simple

Yes I understand bound thank you, I do not yet understand that complex maths sorry.

Ok thank you , can someone please explain in simple terms the meaning of torque?, I looked on wiki and the diagram lost me. i thought it was the force to move something? When a torque wrench reaches its equal force strength it slips its clutch?

I am sorry it is based on electricity , but ok i will leave it out of thread. You mean some electrons in mass stay dormant?