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I think on this subject a while ago.so could it be the information and the observer the same one? you to observe required you to know where to look.that means you know whats there before you look at it.

i think everything is neutral originally.it based on your past information sources how you define that what it actually is.anyhow,since nothing came by yourself ever you are a product of all your sources.amazingly everything as "wrong" or "good"it can change in any moment to its opposite.childrens has perception as "everything" is actually normal the way it is and one in itself apply as universal. for example giving leaf to a cow suggest them its the same with everything so they give it to the dog also.definition change contionusly with meaning behind and overwrite the information itself.homeless is not more than a people sitting on the ground but all your perception will be the definition of all previous information of the object in that moment so on its a projection only internal and you basically act upon that image.

absolutley got you. once side note.when it comes to non physical the data has no validity but still validated.anyhow,i believe there is no external at all. Scientist claims before the actual order to take an action after decision the signal measured in the brain 6 seconds before the action take place. it can not represent fast responses towards the enviroment like someone throw a ball to you or running across a road front of a car and many more example.I question free will in physical and I ve got my own theory about this topic that also suggest something else but I dont want to bother anyone about it. data does not validate itself but the observation does it. cheers

my toughts where response to this "The I is in charge of Decisions and takes decisions in relation to the other components (and it self) and in relation with Impartiality( I won’t go into details here about the Impartiality, is enough to say that it can be expressed mathematicaly and Free Will also." self validation means to me.talk about an egg validate the egg as external also you so self validation.(even if its hidden)

i consider that there is a need before any decision and before decision there is a choice and so on becomes a reaction.its so interesting we are built of the system of opposition. also once you say "GOOD" you immedietly represent the "BAD" in within and so on becomes a superpositioning. all what we do i think nothing else than self validation in every moment.being a source and the observer in one creates a loop for infinite need of this process.every tought is a self validation just as every definition we use and so on all meaning behind it.not just validate the self as conscious but also the external as seperate validated as well.its fascinating all happen internal....

i think there is no time nor space if you take your own observation as reference frame.your position is zero dimensional and always the same.that means everything moving but not you....and moving as you observe anything..the deeper you observe the more you get close to what you observe.

thank you Sir.greatly apprechiete your help! regards

thank you Sir.greatly apprechieted.are you expert in to analyze the numbers? thank you

Hi just wanted ask some help to my research could anyone pls suggest me source to the speed of the expanding universe been measured?I ld need data.thanks also may someone who understand the data. thank you

seems i am not alone with this idea.. The Illusion of Time with Dr Bruce H Lipton

great post!

not because they break down at some level but because they always look in more and more depth for the specific existing subject and to its opposite which ll give another direction to counter it.

i took this diagram and gave it a structure with the numbers of 2,4 (2*2),16(4*4)and 256(16*16) i found a detailed information from 1800 -2010 of the population growing.i suggest paralell behaviour in our population as effect of the consciousness growing which can be paralell with the expnading universe. I created this mathematical structure in order to measure both occassion with the exact same measuring structure. its include the very big and small numbers such as 2 to 4 ,4 to 16 ,and 16 to 256.you using the numbers based on this structure then divide back with its own number (root or radical in english?) and you ll get a ratio within this year scale.you can measure anywhere really in any depth as long as you got information of these details. i want to do the same with the expanding universe.we need to measure with this same structure 3 measurement required of its speed to get ratio value this will shows its growing and its effect and ll suggest the time period of its own effect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Population_curve.svg

everything is two dimensional information.you dont see 3 dimension ever because what you do according to our physics only changing your position in the space but the picture did not change only look at from other angle. you cant predict any side you can not see but the brain add aditional image to create sense based on existing information.now if it does then image itself shouldnt exist as well just like you are not moving in space.you always stay in the same state which has no reference just like you said. television is exactly the same its project 3 dimension on 2 dimension platform.also any computer game represent 3 dimension in within the 2. i have no knowledge to measure the expanding universe contacted Oxford and Cambridge university also mailed Mr Stephen Hawking not sure if any one ll concern me but anyhow if any one could help in this measurement that would be great because I am comfident the result of the measurement will be the one i suggested.

I am happy to work with others on the same subject. if you think about it Scientist must give a correct solid evidence of their theories works in all circumstances.so if you are totally senseless its should still apply but it doesnt.actually there is nothing no time no space no dimensions and nothing more than self awareness,thats to me exactly the state of superpositioning in quantum physics.but it would point into that there is no reality because its only the process itself and everything into it is the exact same fabric. everything you know is just fraction of informations creates images in different form but still dpend on the depth and direction of the observation.. I found a methematic shematics based on 2,4,16,and 256 to give time a structure even it does not exist but the growth ratio its measurable on two subject.one is the population the other is the expansion of the universe.its including the small and also large points to measure . I did a measurement on the first subject.and altough the largest number were too large to measure I had 3 measurement.I got a ratio which was 1.1-1.2-2.6 in the period of years 1850-2010.based on the structure of 10th years such as 1850,1860,1870... this shematics can measure any time scale in any form regardless its prcision as it can measure 10th of years or single years as long as the structure of the measurement in the same reference frame. i suggest if i could be able to measure the expansion of the universe on 3 occasion with this structure i must get a bigger ratio.that would suggest the very momement of the acceleration. if i would measure this back and trying to find the ratio of 2.6 in my suggestion it has to be before 2010 since the population WAS THE EFFECT ONLY of the growing. any further population measurement will not reliable because as soon the population growth will stop it means its evolving into another life form which has to be non artifical since the biological evolution not able to follow the technical.

i edited my post adding more things and this topic its really tough.thanks for the links i ll take a look at them also thanks for any other oppinions

thanks for reply i really need more idea on this topic by you guys. I think information of the structure of the observation makes actually sense in lots of subject.such us there is no future since is not predictable also support that time is not exist.if there is no time based on Einstein suggestion (time and space the same fabric) it question the existence of space also. since your frame of reference does not move but everything else does it means to me the information is changing by the direction of the actual observation.since the information structure is the effect of its own process you must be the same observer of the very same thing.so there is no specific you or I .only the observation itself and direction also depth of its own procedure. if you taken away every of your sense to create reality image at the end you have nothing but self awareness.thats state has no information value nor reference frame. since we are able to keep see the same information also in other state when its changed by others modification i assume its add aditional value of information into the existing and you actually can percieve it by observing it...?since every process is internal that would mean you havent got any specific position or its the exact same one.like every ion in the universe can be the exact same one.. thanks again for taking your time on this topic

just doing my research and would like to ask if anyone can give me a note on this subject pls thanks you as the part of consciousness has no any existing value apart form information.since everything contain information thats what its own structure.its observing itself as you and me and happen all internal. your actual position in time and space is illusionary since your position always the same within your frame of reference. you to be able to access any existing information while your frame of reference always the same it suggest to me the source of the information is the observer itself.that self reflection does not support any seperation in the observation in other words there is no seperate observer and no any other person as individual exist as reference.its the very same observation access different information from the same information source.so observing itself trough its own loop back to itself.you and me and everyone is the very same consciousness observe itself as an illusion or a possibility. Your position physically has no reference as you always in the same reference frame.in other word the image of yours based on your observation and depends what and how deep you look at it.you cant move IN SPACE because you are always observe from the very same place.you ve never moved.the subjects of the observation moving as you look at it in depth considering that from your reference frame time is always now it suggest me there is now any arrow of the time. ?...

problem is if you take only one part of particle out to observe you ll miss the whole point.you have to see the whole function as one unit. Popcorn Sutton good post,even if i dont understand i do understand haha. time travel is exist and always existed you also experience it many times you just not be able to explain physicaly as your perception can not define.I do work on this subject I am telling you guys all this scientist and math PHD ll be very busy shortly to define new physical forces were never been studied.watch! need some contact to collaborate and do experiments...

there is a possibilty for everything.it means if the needs is there it will turn into a new branch of physics. thanks for your answer anyway i ll keep continue my research

Eugene Morrow, thanks very much to consider my post and reply. I have no any study of qm or qp. I started research connections of the physical and the actual observer vs perception.I think quantum phisics or mechanics pointing towards the direction to reach non physical phenomen even tough there is no device to measure. to me suspicious that every of communication form involved more observer so the combination possibilies increase towrds infinity.also looking back in time in our so called past even trough your life you ll see that past events torugh the physical action-reaction law creates chain reactions.depends on the number of the observer with their own individual definitions of the same thing expand the event in the moment.in my oppinion it must create some blueprint or echo simply because it comes back in a form of action (consider as a force of choiseless awereness) with no limits. (you say something 2 years later someone remember you recieve a honecall do you still got this signed football by XY...etc)it creates new possibilities i consider conscious moments.all that superpositioning must colapse into one reality but I am looking for signs of human behaviour it could lead to seperate an infinite conscious events comine with physical observer and trough that be able to create their own universe in the physical form.just like we build roads computers and basically everything.as i see now its all seeking trough us the highest complexity which actually could back up the force of this conscious infinity.that also would suggest the understanding of the physical body limitations in the term of sensation of this event as its could be calledsubconscious or non recognizeble..?that would be able to answer the nature of our perception of time as flow.(40 conscious event /second =flowing time effect) make me wonder how am i be able to know that within this crucial 6 seconds how much to accelerate to run across the road without the car hit me and all that happen in split second?while it was clearly a moment of the choice which as far as i understand yet it creates the possibility and that could colapse into one reality?if we would be able to go back in time could only explain that me how exact my physical reaction and action was which is theoricly not possibly was the choice of the brain?it would suggest me that the consciousness express itself into one physical dimension our body able to percieve even knowing whats going in the background.consciousness could experience all the possibility and choosing the best of all possibilies but you feeling of the events could be a blueprint on the event horizon or another words a memory of the rest of the possibilies...? that actually would create a paralel connection with religion (I am not religious) in terms of being physically vulnerable =brain percieve and processing informations of the enviroment (regardless of its holographistic or the reflection of its own existence) with choice already made but would not consider anything as creator (known as GOD) with seperating physical and non physical events which i believe we actually experience. being ironic I am actually seeking this direction as my highest excitement trough this communication form and expand the counscious experience with physical expression or form.wherever we turn we the conversation we just actually do the same thing and nothing can stop this happening.isnt this suspicious?any form of information combined with the observer increase the possibilies.also why the world population physical existence increasing ? (lifetime) why is that the nature of the universe is that it changes for it needs?which is a CHOICE?=conscious event? why is the more aware of anything you ll look at it and seeking it?and with the more awareness even tough you got more understaning it doesnt stop its IMPOSSIBLE? why is that we got so many highest excitement?you have defintely at least one which is what you actually doing right now.regardless peoples say they hate to do but there is a belief which attach to the physical action creates that highest excitement?but haha why is that once you becomes "static positioning" (leats say you driving homefrom work)even tough you experience your highest excitement you already looking for another one?why is that the actual highest excitement you just NOT DOING is actually not available for you at all?and most suprisingly if you ld be able to make it and experience you already becomes careless and look for another one??this all to me just way too much coincidence.but most important how is that our perception-belief change our own genes??? sorry for my english cheers again.

wel here it doesnt say that.and actually it make sense.it suggest me that every choice you make it was a result of these collapse and as on the quantum level the electron was able to repositioning to the observer regardless of the distance suggest to me that all the possibilities existed and been experienced at once.BUT because your physical body arent designed to live multiple dimensions you ll never ever be able to be actually phisically experience.altough the doubt in your choice could be the memory of the other possibilities regardless of the final colapse or reality the memory or the footprint manifest as a feeling of doubt or questioning your decision.it also suggest me that basically consciousness altough no necesserely need the observer but trough the observer the higher complexity reaches faster in multiple form.like create physical and non physical trough your phisical existance.if i look the technical evolution back in history it suggest me some sort of speed in the highest complexity and i bet if we could measure that it would be exactly the same as the expanding universe.anyway if this guy right and conscious moment can happen for in our physical existence 40 times/secod it ld explain to me why time recognized as flow.simply because it becomes continous for our perception.that would also suggest that the 40 times/second is can be the high vibration state what is our normal state but when you on low vibrational state you be able to produce way less conscious moments.that causing unconfidental behaviour as the experiences reduced and it not the natural state of the consciousness as it seeks this highest complexity....? Human behavior can be traced and this behavior pointing towards serving consciousness.protect your life extend the time of the experience itself in the physical dimension and so on be able to create more and more complex things.also forexample today trough social website made it possible to exchange information immedietely and so on force to look the observer to look faster and more intense towrds the highest complexity.any sort of communication form seek the observer and raise the choiceless awereness.does it make any sense to you guys? pls let me know your toughts so i can learn.thanks

Hi guys, What if? (vibration and time) What if .....What if trough the circulating waves and superpositioning we are actually living the life we wanted to? is that possible? your physical reactions and activities carries a form of confident.you just act as its natural and straight forward to you.even if you got questions in the moment you still make the choice its the best for you.even if your physical being consider it as negative... lest look at an example. you want to go across the road you see a car and trying measuring the distance and you made the choice go or not.on the non physical level all the possibilities exist in the same time YOU STILL PICKED THE ONE WAS PERFECT to make it trough how did you know that speed and all circumstances made it possible?? Maybe because you already made it.maybe you did jump back the time trough the circulating vibrational consciousness the events of possibilities...you already made that in another state what is not explainable with your physical brain and you act exactly the way you made it in your called future and jumping back in time and move your physical body.what if our whole life already happened and you act exactly the same way you ve chosen on the quantum level.why fear attach to this event then?could it be your physical perception only the conscious mind perception but with the memory of that you already did jump all the other possibilities too?and the fear attach to it because the memory of the fatal possibility also experienced on the non physical level?could it be you experience all the possibilities jumping back and forward in time as its non physical with no observer only living the possibilities consciously?could be that the whole your life its already happened you just walk trough regardless whats you physical existence experience with those limitations?could it be trough social expectations effect your perciving mind even if your choice already made and it was the best for you but because your physical being effected by these definitions creates confusions of the chosen reality?and now everybody talks spiritually about low and high frequency vibration could it be simply low vibration generate less superpositioning therefore the possibilities reduced for the jumping and altough you did made the jump because you made it trough but the memory of this limited possibilities creates a memory of the non confidental state?so your original vibration state is always high to be able to pick from all the possibilities and because your physical existance limitations and the perception of the world as it is made the jump way not confident..? any tought? cheers J Highest excitement: highest excitement got different meaning for every of us and we actually got them from somewehere we call it Wish? I can say that with confidence we all got more than one highest excitement.actually somehow there is always exist.one of your highest excitement what you actually doing or act as physical.how can you call that highest excitement if you believe you dont like what you doing?simply because you do..otherwise you wouldnt do it.regardless what is the belief you attach that highest excitement the belief makes it what it is even you consider as the worst thing you could do in that very moment.on the other level goes another highest excitement what is actually always something you cant do at the moment.why do we pick always one you cant access to in that moment?why is there a pattern in that when you drive home from work you start wonder on the next highest excitement?maybe because the state you driving is inbetween distances and your physical highest excitement was you to got home but doing it so (you just drive your car)this static state trough the consciousness and the choiceless awereness keep pick a direction for the observer?the choice.the possibilities...all this just as part of creations as the physical percievable sensation.interestingly once you made the choice and the very far excitement actually becomes possible many times we let it go and replace with another highest excitement to keep ourelf wonder of the same choice keep going on and on...