WissenschaftMann

New here. Sorry about having put it in the wrong thread and for not having elaborated how this is testable enough. How it is testable: All they'd have to do is run psychological tests on people having them guess what's on each other's minds or for example guess who is more or less likely to come into a room a person is in and tests on their gut bacteria in controlled settings over a period of time and repeat the studies. Perhaps you'd see similar gut bacteria means higher rates of accurate guessing. Or perhaps not. Either way I'd be interested in seeing the results and even wonder if perhaps studies like this have been conducted. If they have then clearly they came out either negative or inconclusive (or else we would've all heard about this), which would still be great to know. If not someone should get to work on that. I'll grant even if the results showed a correlation gut flora influence on personality characteristics would still be a viable explanation so then we'd need to conduct yet more research. We could have tests on the precise behaviors of these bacterias both with their own species and others and how they react when exposed to various chemicals found in the human body, as well as to test how each set of molecules and chemicals (including the microbes themselves) interact with one another based on what you'd expect to find in the human body as well as the air that people breathe. Run some calculations and they should be able to say whether this is at least a possibility and ultimately yes prove or disprove the theory. If the mathematics of a microbial populations' interactions with themselves and their environment happened to coincide with the way that humans interact (or exhibit even higher levels of complexity) with each other and their environment there would be no reason to say they aren't conscious and indeed intelligent. If the material interactions look exactly the same physically when analyzed from every angle then it is exactly the same and can be characterized as being conscious and possessing humanlike intelligence. Of course if the mathematics were to show they don't line up at all then the theory would be falsified. Monosigna in particular. There's got to be more information on that other than that their communication patterns are more complex than humans. I'd love to see the full mathematics of it so I could begin parsing out how they interact and whether there are any major parallels with how the matter and energy we call "humans" interacts with each other. But everytime I try looking for more information on that subject I can't find anything. If anybody could direct me towards any relevant information on Monosigna that would be great. It's next to impossible for me to find through regular search engines. Maybe I'd find something completely different, still worth the search. Edit: It's Monosiga Brevicollis not Monosigna. I can't locate the original article that claims their communication is more complex than humans but I did find an article that says their tyrosine kinase signaling network is more complex than any other protist. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18621719 Disregard what I said about it being more complex than humans, granted that would be amazing if it were and it's likely it would require a great deal more tests and analysis (such as what I described could be done above) to figure that out. Or we already know in which case the helpful people here can point me to the specific pieces of information to either confirm or deny and either way it's always good to learn more information.

If you want to strictly define ESP as being immediate then OK then I'll grant you the definition, but wouldn't it still be amazing even if not technically ESP if it turned out that psychological effects are sometimes mediated between people through microorganisms and their interactions with each other and with the environment? That could explain the appearance of ESP and that would still be something amazing. And that doesn't detract from the question how do we know there are no humanlike microbe populations (humanlike in relation to the environments they are living in)? Monosigna is said to have even more complex communication between each other than humans have between each other which makes me curious about whether it is similarly amazing in other aspects.

http://www.realitysandwich.com/does_telepathy_conflict_science Reading this article about how if it was any other phenomenon ESP would've been confirmed scientific fact by 1950. It seems the only reason it gets rejected is in the words of one scientist "it doesn't make sense". Afterall how could it work if there's no physical connection. No one bothered to stop and think but microbes pass between people everyday. And studies show the importance of the gut to how people think. Scientists are calling the gut where most microbes hang out as being the second brain. And there are more non-human cells in our bodies than there are human DNA cells. It's not a stretch that information could go from one person's brain through microbes, into another person either through the microbes physically moving there or through communication networks between them and to another person. I can't find the article but I read scientists have found Monosigna has more complex communication between each other than humans and spans the globe. How does it behave in its daily life? How do Monosigna relate to each other? It also got me thinking if a microorganism could be shown to manipulate the environment around itself including for the purposes of storing information on how to manipulate its environment, make continuous advances in doing this, and communicated with each other and did this in a similar manner to the way that we do it that microbe population would essentially be very tiny people. Has this been ruled out? If so how? And at a certain level of advance they would even be able to possibly communicate even in subtle ways with beings in the larger world. Perhaps relating to us as Universes or clusters in the Universe and possibly coming to know we are ourselves aware and thinking when they have advanced to a certain level of knowledge and understanding. Any studies on this? Has there been research to try and relate psychic ability with microorganisms or to evaluate microbial intelligence to see if any are humanlike in relation to their environments?