Over 9000 Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 "Over 9000 has been suspended for 3 days for abusive behavior and thread hijacking, and for refusing requests for clarity. New member hopefully, shaky start, nothing that can't be fixed with a bit more civility and patience." Since I don't want to be banned again I'd like some explanation "thread hijacking", and "refusing requests for clarity". Simply let me know which posts and points are in question. Thanks.
StringJunky Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Stuff like this is better done in private. Pm a mod.
Over 9000 Posted October 31, 2016 Author Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Stuff like this is better done in private. Pm a mod. I don't think so. I mean shouldn't we all know exactly why we are being banned to help people stay within acceptable parameters? Of course if a mod tells me to keep this private I will. Edited October 31, 2016 by Over 9000
Ophiolite Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 I am not a mod, but I have been one here in the past. I read through some of your posts. I didn't spot the thread hijacking or refusals to clarify, but I did note that many of your posts were belligerent and patronising. That is often evidence that the poster is more interested in a fight than a discussion. You might wish to consider that.
Over 9000 Posted October 31, 2016 Author Posted October 31, 2016 I am not a mod, but I have been one here in the past. I read through some of your posts. I didn't spot the thread hijacking or refusals to clarify, but I did note that many of your posts were belligerent and patronising. That is often evidence that the poster is more interested in a fight than a discussion. You might wish to consider that. Well I'm specifically curious about the "thread hijacking or refusals to clarify". I admit that after I defined race by ancestry, and a poster told me I was defining race by skin color, I said their post was stupid. Was that what you were talking about among my extensive discussion?
imatfaal Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 We don't like to discuss individual cases like this in the open forum. Things to bear in mind would be that this is a forum for debate which anyone can apply for membership of - and thus there are many levels of academic learning, many different ages, and many different reasons that people join the discussion. Whilst a moderator may step in to stop a troll bogging down the discussion with repeated and distracting questions most of the time the discussions are left to run their course - however we do not like some behaviour and will ask members to refrain. 1. When an honest question is asked of the OP it is expected that the OP will attempt to answer it (in the Speculations forum it is mandatory) - refusal to do, especially an intentionally denigrating refusal, will lead to moderator action. 2. When a moderator places a modnote in the thread and asks that no response to the modnote be made in the thread we expect this request to be followed; you can report the moderation or pm the moderator if you need clarification. If a member responds to the modnote we deem it to be hijacking the thread away from its original topic; this will also tend to lead to moderator action. 3. This forum attempts to keep all discussion friendly and polite - we accept and expect that sometimes this will not be possible and all members may have minor tantrums and spats from now to then - but when a poster starts with an overly aggressive attitude and within a handful of posts is insulting other posters then staff may step in.
Over 9000 Posted October 31, 2016 Author Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) We don't like to discuss individual cases like this in the open forum. Things to bear in mind would be that this is a forum for debate which anyone can apply for membership of - and thus there are many levels of academic learning, many different ages, and many different reasons that people join the discussion. Whilst a moderator may step in to stop a troll bogging down the discussion with repeated and distracting questions most of the time the discussions are left to run their course - however we do not like some behaviour and will ask members to refrain. 1. When an honest question is asked of the OP it is expected that the OP will attempt to answer it (in the Speculations forum it is mandatory) - refusal to do, especially an intentionally denigrating refusal, will lead to moderator action. 2. When a moderator places a modnote in the thread and asks that no response to the modnote be made in the thread we expect this request to be followed; you can report the moderation or pm the moderator if you need clarification. If a member responds to the modnote we deem it to be hijacking the thread away from its original topic; this will also tend to lead to moderator action. 3. This forum attempts to keep all discussion friendly and polite - we accept and expect that sometimes this will not be possible and all members may have minor tantrums and spats from now to then - but when a poster starts with an overly aggressive attitude and within a handful of posts is insulting other posters then staff may step in. OK. I think I get it. If a mod publically slanders someone they are not allowed to respond or it's "hijacking". Nice. We had Moderator Note Over 9000, if you can't post in this thread without resulting to insults then you will find that you will not be able to post at all. Furthermore, resorting to calling someone asking you to back up your claims stupid is rather disingenuous of you, and a particularly poor way to hold discussion. Such actions are also prohibited on this forum, so I would ask you to refrain from them in the future. Do not reply to this note within the thread. And just to be clear: you will be suspended if your attitude doesn't make a rapid change. He wasn't "asking me to back up my claims". He was asking A) how humans can have subspecies if they are the same same species B) accusing me of defining race by skin color after I'd defined it clearly by ancestry or genomic similarity ie. nonsense and strawman. after my posts had covered this in detail. Is it not fair to dismiss this? So did the mod simply not understand what my claims were? Why can I not respond to this? Isn't taking sides, in such a failed manner, disruptive? Edited October 31, 2016 by Over 9000
imatfaal Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 ! Moderator Note Enough. You have been told what you did wrong - you disagree. If you don't like the rules of the forum feel free to post elsewhere or start a blog. Thread locked. Do not open another thread to moan about past moderation 3
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