TimeSpaceLightForce Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 If letters are factors of equations:zero = 0one = 1two = 2three = 3four = 4five = 5six = 6seven = 7eight = 8nine = 9ten = 10twelve = 12fifteen = 15twenty = 20thirty = 30forty = 40sixty = 60hundred = 100thousand = 1000million = 1000000billion = 1000000000 What is the product for unanswered = ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider5678 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 If letters are factors of equations: zero = 0 one = 1 two = 2 three = 3 four = 4 five = 5 six = 6 seven = 7 eight = 8 nine = 9 ten = 10 twelve = 12 fifteen = 15 twenty = 20 thirty = 30 forty = 40 sixty = 60 hundred = 100 thousand = 1000 million = 1000000 billion = 1000000000 What is the product for unanswered = ? By looking at this "impossible" puzzle, I shall answer it to the best of my ability. Z.E.R.O = 0 Therefore those letters are worth zero. O.N.E = 1, since we know that O. and E. = 0, then N = 1. T.W.O = 2 we know that O = 0, so the letters T. and W. > 0 T.H.R.E.E = 3 F.O.U.R = 4 F.I.V.E = 5 S.I.X = 6 S.E.V.E.N = 7 E.I.G.H.T = 8 N.I.N.E = 9 Since we know that E = 0 and that N = 1, we know that I = 7 T.E.N =10 since we know E = 0 and that N = 1, we know that T = 9 Someone else finish it, I ain't got the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sriman Dutta Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 By looking at this "impossible" puzzle, I shall answer it to the best of my ability. Z.E.R.O = 0 Therefore those letters are worth zero. O.N.E = 1, since we know that O. and E. = 0, then N = 1. T.W.O = 2 we know that O = 0, so the letters T. and W. > 0 T.H.R.E.E = 3 F.O.U.R = 4 F.I.V.E = 5 S.I.X = 6 S.E.V.E.N = 7 E.I.G.H.T = 8 N.I.N.E = 9 Since we know that E = 0 and that N = 1, we know that I = 7 T.E.N =10 since we know E = 0 and that N = 1, we know that T = 9 Someone else finish it, I ain't got the time. The OP asks for the product for unanswered....You are adding values....It must be product, I think.......Confusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeSpaceLightForce Posted November 12, 2016 Author Share Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) @Raider- if (z)(e)(r )(o)=0 maybe not "all" of those factors are equal to zero. one= o X n X e Edited November 12, 2016 by TimeSpaceLightForce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider5678 Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 @Raider- if (z)(e)(r )(o)=0 maybe not "all" of those factors are equal to zero. one= o X n X e In the sense it is an impossible puzzle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imatfaal Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Sur If letters are factors of equations:zero = 0one = 1two = 2three = 3four = 4five = 5six = 6seven = 7eight = 8nine = 9ten = 10twelve = 12fifteen = 15twenty = 20thirty = 30forty = 40sixty = 60hundred = 100thousand = 1000million = 1000000billion = 1000000000 What is the product for unanswered = ? Are you sure about this? inter alia one = 1 ten = 10 two = 2 I read this in terms of puzzle as o * n * e = 1 t * e * n =10 and t*w*o =2 If so then (unless so of the letters are fractions - which would be silly) o =1 and n=1 and e=1 - if any of them are not unity then the product would not be one this gives the second line reading t*1*1=10 t=10 which is pretty annoying as ten is not a prime factor (but you didn't say prime factors) but this then gives 10*w*1=2 w cannot be an integer (it is 1/5) You get the same internal contradiction with nine - i must equal 9 but that screws up six Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeSpaceLightForce Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 @imatfaal-why should the factors(letters) be all whole numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imatfaal Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 @imatfaal-why should the factors(letters) be all whole numbers? Because that is the common use of the term http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Factor.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncool Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) There's only two solutions for most of the letters (m, b, and I think l are ambiguous, but unnecessary). Some of these could be negative instead; I haven't checked to see whether that changes the answer, but I doubt it. Use the fact that sixty = 60 = 6*10 = six*10 to deduce that ty = 10. Then use the fact that forty = 40 = 4*10 = four*10, so u = 1. u = 1 w = 1/5 using twenty = 20, ty = 10, ten = 10. t = 10 using ten = 10, two = 2, and one = 1. y = 1 using ty = 10. o = 1 using two = 2. From thirty = 30 = three*10, deduce that i = ee. Then: e = 9 using one = 1, nine = 9, and i = ee. n = 1/9 using one = 1. i = 81 using nine = 9. f = sqrt(1/486) using fifteen = 15. v = 5 sqrt(6)/81 using five = 5. s = 21 sqrt(6)/10 using seven = 7. r = 36 sqrt(6) using four = 4. h = sqrt(6)/58320 using three = 3 d = sqrt(27000) using hundred = 100 a = 32400 sqrt(30)/7 using thousand = 1000 Unanswered = 1*1/9*32400 sqrt(30)/7*1/9*21 sqrt(6)/10 * 1/5 * 9 * 36 sqrt(6) * 9 * sqrt(27000) = 377913600. I've probably made some arithmetic error somewhere, but the order should work. Edited November 15, 2016 by uncool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeSpaceLightForce Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 @imatfaal- thanks for clarifying that factors are Integers..I took the wrong term and it should be " If letters are values to multiply in equations:" so on.. @Raider5678-I see now why you think it is impossible. Because factors are not fractions. There's only two solutions for most of the letters (m, b, and I think l are ambiguous, but unnecessary). Some of these could be negative instead; I haven't checked to see whether that changes the answer, but I doubt it. Use the fact that sixty = 60 = 6*10 = six*10 to deduce that ty = 10. Then use the fact that forty = 40 = 4*10 = four*10, so u = 1. u = 1 w = 1/5 using twenty = 20, ty = 10, ten = 10. t = 10 using ten = 10, two = 2, and one = 1. y = 1 using ty = 10. o = 1 using two = 2. From thirty = 30 = three*10, deduce that i = ee. Then: e = 9 using one = 1, nine = 9, and i = ee. n = 1/9 using one = 1. i = 81 using nine = 9. f = sqrt(1/486) using fifteen = 15. v = 5 sqrt(6)/81 using five = 5. s = 21 sqrt(6)/10 using seven = 7. r = 36 sqrt(6) using four = 4. h = sqrt(6)/58320 using three = 3 d = sqrt(27000) using hundred = 100 a = 32400 sqrt(30)/7 using thousand = 1000 Unanswered = 1*1/9*32400 sqrt(30)/7*1/9*21 sqrt(6)/10 * 1/5 * 9 * 36 sqrt(6) * 9 * sqrt(27000) = 377913600. I've probably made some arithmetic error somewhere, but the order should work. All the letter values are correct! You'll just get it answered.. (the error is somewhere in the multiplication for the product) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imatfaal Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Nice one uncool. I was attempting to do it without any recourse to numbers whatsoever - I got close but then time constraints stopped me To explain - If I want UNANSWERED then I can build it from other words ie SIX/SIXTY = 1/TY SIX/SIXTY * FORTY = FOR SIX/SIXTY*FORTY/FOUR = 1/U etc THOUSAND * TWENTY * SIX/SIXTY = THOUSANDTWEN THOUSANDTWEN/TEN = THOUSANDW = UNA_SW___D THO UNA_SW___D THO / TWO = UNA_SW___D / W UNA_SW___D / W * THREE = UNA_SWERED.TH/W UNA_SWERED.TH/W * TEN/TWENTY * SIXTY/SIX = UNA_SWERED.TH ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncool Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) imatfaal: it's possible to do exactly that as a linear algebra problem. Each letter gives a component of a vector; a word is then a vector in the space of letter-products. Multiplying two words is adding two vectors. We're then looking for the vector 1u + 2n + 1a + 1s + 1w + 2e + 1r + 1d in terms of the rest. I think in the end, there's a coefficient of 1/2, which is why there will be sign ambiguity. Edit: it turns out there isn't any; all the "halves" do cancel out, so there is no ambiguity in the answer. Some work towards your method: Start by identifying letters that only appear in a few places. Here, 'a' only appears in 'thousand, so to get unanswered, you need thousand. Using 'a': unanswered = thousand*unanswered/thousand = 1000*nwere/tho Using 'h', and keeping bookkeeping neat with 'two': nwere/tho = 1/twothree * nweretwothree/tho = 1/6 * nwerewtree Rearranging: nwweeeerrt Using 'r': nwweeeerrt = fortyforty*nwweeeerrt/fortyforty = 1600*nwweeeet/fotyfoty Using 'f': nwweeeet/fotyfoty = 1/fifteen*nwweeeetfifteen/fotyfoty = 1/15 * nnwweeeeeei/ooyy The problem is harder from here on out. building up to "unanswered": w = twenty six/ten sixty to = two ten sixty/twenty six oo = two sixty one/twenty six nene = twenty six one/two sixty neene = nine three sixty/thirty six e = two three nine sixty sixty/one six six twenty thirty i = two two three nine nine sixty sixty sixty/one one six six six twenty twenty thirty tt = tenten/nene = ten ten two sixty/twenty six one yy = tyty/tt = sixty twenty one/six ten ten two nnwweeeeeei/ooyy = nine*wweeeee/ooyy = two^5 three^5 nine^6 sixty^6/one^7 six^6 twenty^3 thirty^5 Using earlier calculations: unanswered = two^4 three^4 nine^6 forty^2 sixty^6 thousand/one^7 six^6 fifteen twenty^3 thirty^5 Which gets my answer, 37791360. TimeSpaceLightForce, maybe you want to check if your answer is correct? Also, how did you come up with this problem? Edited November 16, 2016 by uncool 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeSpaceLightForce Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 @uncool- I thought it was 340122240 which is I just remembered is the product computed for "answered" . Since un=1/9 , 37791360 really answers this problem. Note that I have posted this in this section 4 years ago but it was unanswered (no reply). -It started with the anagram "one+twelve=two+eleven" ..as I could remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handy andy Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 If letters are factors of equations: zero = 0 one = 1 two = 2 three = 3 four = 4 five = 5 six = 6 seven = 7 eight = 8 nine = 9 ten = 10 twelve = 12 fifteen = 15 twenty = 20 thirty = 30 forty = 40 sixty = 60 hundred = 100 thousand = 1000 million = 1000000 billion = 1000000000 What is the product for unanswered = ? The product of anything multiplied by zero is zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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