Almost perpetual motion machine (friction and other loss sucks)

[musicphysicsmath]

Okay..

So, I lack the means to fabricate this device. It could be any size.

I will try to describe it as best as possible.

 

There is a long, upright "conveyor belt", this could be a wire, chain, etc, held up by some frame.

 

On the right (doesn't matter) side, there is a stack of weights, perhaps like wafers, maybe a hundred or whatever number.

 

They exert downward gravitational force upon a "fork" which is housed in the frame.

 

This fork moves downward because of the weights.

 

There are two forks. The second one had been previously carrying the stack, as the two forks trade duties.

 

So, this first fork has been applying the force to a "transmission", the above fork, that is.

 

The 2nd fork has just retired to release the bottom weight, while the first is doing it's job, transmitting the force.

 

The idea is that this "conveyor belt" has "latches" on it, maybe just one, and is driven by the transmission.

 

So, to again draw this picture, we have a vertical conveyor belt that is oblong and round at top and bottom. On the right is a stack of weights held up by a fork supporting and thereby introducing it's weight and energy downward.

 

The bottom, 2nd fork releases the bottom weight onto a latch on the conveyor belt, to be carried down under, up the left side, up over the top, and deposited on top of the stack, released from the latch, while the next weight up and the stack are selected by the other fork.

 

This is one cycle.

 

The idea is that with a correct ratio in the transmission, as well as vertical width of each weight, many weights could always move one weight back up onto the top of the stack.

 

Put simply, one weight is in succession always being drawn from the bottom of the stack, and being propelled by the same stack it came from, around and on top of the stack, continuously, the stack moving slowly down, the weight being moved quickly back on top. The stack never descends below, only downward, and the forks always taking turns releasing weights / and transmitting the downward force of the stack.

 

Any ideas, ways to implement, criticism, or other ideas that would help this work?

 

Does this sound like a neat idea?

[Klaynos]

To keep it going you need to add weight at the same rate it's reaching the bottom. Therefore your conveyer would need to lift the same amount of weight it's lowering once running. In other words it would stop as the weight of the two sides becomes equal, in reality it'd be a bit before this due to losses.

[J.C.MacSwell]

Okay..

So, I lack the means to fabricate this device. It could be any size.

I will try to describe it as best as possible.

 

There is a long, upright "conveyor belt", this could be a wire, chain, etc, held up by some frame.

 

On the right (doesn't matter) side, there is a stack of weights, perhaps like wafers, maybe a hundred or whatever number.

 

They exert downward gravitational force upon a "fork" which is housed in the frame.

 

This fork moves downward because of the weights.

 

There are two forks. The second one had been previously carrying the stack, as the two forks trade duties.

 

So, this first fork has been applying the force to a "transmission", the above fork, that is.

 

The 2nd fork has just retired to release the bottom weight, while the first is doing it's job, transmitting the force.

 

The idea is that this "conveyor belt" has "latches" on it, maybe just one, and is driven by the transmission.

 

So, to again draw this picture, we have a vertical conveyor belt that is oblong and round at top and bottom. On the right is a stack of weights held up by a fork supporting and thereby introducing it's weight and energy downward.

 

The bottom, 2nd fork releases the bottom weight onto a latch on the conveyor belt, to be carried down under, up the left side, up over the top, and deposited on top of the stack, released from the latch, while the next weight up and the stack are selected by the other fork.

 

This is one cycle.

 

The idea is that with a correct ratio in the transmission, as well as vertical width of each weight, many weights could always move one weight back up onto the top of the stack.

 

Put simply, one weight is in succession always being drawn from the bottom of the stack, and being propelled by the same stack it came from, around and on top of the stack, continuously, the stack moving slowly down, the weight being moved quickly back on top. The stack never descends below, only downward, and the forks always taking turns releasing weights / and transmitting the downward force of the stack.

 

Any ideas, ways to implement, criticism, or other ideas that would help this work?

 

Does this sound like a neat idea?

It would need negative mechanical advantage to do this quickly enough to replenish...ideally breaking even assuming no losses...so you have gained nothing prior to analyzing the losses...and are behind after you do.

[Delta1212]

There are lots of almost perpetual motion machines if you're defining that as anything that would run forever if it had no losses.

[musicphysicsmath]

The idea was the weight was released on top of the stack exactly as one went for the cycle. In any case, thank you all for the input, I'm surely a layman, just always had that idea.

I'll stick to guitar lol

[Klaynos]

The idea was the weight was released on top of the stack exactly as one went for the cycle. In any case, thank you all for the input, I'm surely a layman, just always had that idea.

I'll stick to guitar lol

I think most people have similar panderings. It's good to think about things and ask questions.