markosheehan Posted December 9, 2016 Posted December 9, 2016 a train accelerates uniformly from rest to a speed v m/s with uniform acceleration a m/s^2 it then decelerates uniformly to rest with uniform retardation 3a m/s^2. the total distance travelled is s metres. if the average speed for the whole journey is square root (s/2) find the value of a. does anyone know how to work this out using uvast equations.
Country Boy Posted December 9, 2016 Posted December 9, 2016 If an object moves with constant acceleration, a, then its speed at time t is [math]v= at+ v_0[/math] where [math]v_0[/math] is its speed at t= 0. The distance it covered in that time is [math]d= (a/2)t^2+ v_0t[/math]. Those are what you are referring to as the "uvast" equations. Here, the train starts from rest (so [math]v_0= 0[/math]) then moves at acceleration a for some unspecified time [math]t_1[/math]. At the end of that time it will have speed at and will have gone a distance [math](a/2)t^2[/math]. It then decelerates at -3a for some unspecified time [math]t_2[/math]. At the end of that time t will have speed [math]-3at_2+ (at_1)= a(t_1- 3t_2)= 0[/math] (since it decelerates to rest). Unless a is 0 (in which case the train does not move at all) we must have [math]t_1= 3t_2[/math]. The train will have traveled an additional distance [math](1/2)at_2^2+ at_1t_2[/math]. The total distance it will have traveled is [math]s= (a/2)t_1^2+ (a/2)t_2^2+ at_1t_2= (a/2)(t_1^2+ t_2^2)+ at_1t_2[/math]. Since [math]t_1= 3t_2[/math], we can write that as [math]s= 2at_2^2+ 3at_2^2= 5at_2^2[/math]. The total time taken is [math]t_1+ t_2= 3t_2+ t_2= 4t_2[/math] so the average speed is [math]\frac{s}{t_1+ t_2}= \frac{5at_2^2}{4t_2}= \frac{5}{4}at_2= \frac{5}{2}at_2^2[/math]. Solve that for [math]t_2[/math] then use one of the previous equations to find a.
swansont Posted December 9, 2016 Posted December 9, 2016 ! Moderator Note The point in HW help is not to do the problem for anyone, but to get them in a position to do it. Please refrain from just posting the answer.(spoiler tab added)
markosheehan Posted December 9, 2016 Author Posted December 9, 2016 (edited) how can you change 2.5at^2 into sqaure root s/2 where s stands for the distance . i am very very confused , thanks for your help though Edited December 9, 2016 by markosheehan
swansont Posted December 9, 2016 Posted December 9, 2016 You have an equation that relates distance, speed and acceleration. You need to apply that twice, since you have a total length traveled, so you have this for each leg of travel) vf2-v02 = 2a(dot)s You know the total distance traveled, so you can find the length of each leg of travel. From that information, you should be able to apply the equation HallsofIvy posted to get the total time of travel, and from that, the average speed.
Sriman Dutta Posted December 10, 2016 Posted December 10, 2016 It will be nice if you plot a velocity-time graph for the problem.
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