tkadm30 Posted January 3, 2017 Posted January 3, 2017 I would like to discuss the implications of neuronal phase coherence in brain activity. Precisely, I would like to know your opinions on neural synchronicity and the role of (synaptic) exocytosis in the neuromodulation of emotionality and saliency. Thanks in advance. tkadm30
CharonY Posted January 3, 2017 Posted January 3, 2017 How about you first outline how you see how the different concepts align with each other? The are huge gaps in each of the elements (both in terms of mechanistic as well as conceptual models) and just mashing them toghether in unordered fashion is generally not helpful.
tkadm30 Posted January 3, 2017 Author Posted January 3, 2017 (edited) Neuronal phase coherence in brain activity: How does interneuronal phase coherence trigger brain-to-brain connectivity? How does synchronicity of neuronal populations affects synaptic quantum tunnelling? Edited January 3, 2017 by tkadm30
iNow Posted January 3, 2017 Posted January 3, 2017 How does interneuronal phase coherence trigger brain-to-brain connectivity?What evidence do you have that it even does? How does synchronicity of neuronal populations affects synaptic quantum tunnelling?What evidence do you have that it even does?
tkadm30 Posted January 3, 2017 Author Posted January 3, 2017 My impressions is that neural synchronicity is poorly understood. I'm looking for opinions to better understand neural synchronicity and phase coherence in terms of quantum electrodynamics.
swansont Posted January 3, 2017 Posted January 3, 2017 My impressions is that neural synchronicity is poorly understood. I'm looking for opinions to better understand neural synchronicity and phase coherence in terms of quantum electrodynamics. Is that really an area of study? I'm aware of a few very basic inquiries of QM and brain activity that one would consider to be legitimate. But most are "quantum consciousness" schlock. 1
tkadm30 Posted January 3, 2017 Author Posted January 3, 2017 Is that really an area of study? I'm aware of a few very basic inquiries of QM and brain activity that one would consider to be legitimate. But most are "quantum consciousness" schlock. The quantum brain dynamics (QBD) theory is a legitimate area of study and emerging neuroscience field. However, is neural synchronicity a legitimate model to study phase-transition-driven systems?
swansont Posted January 4, 2017 Posted January 4, 2017 The quantum brain dynamics (QBD) theory is a legitimate area of study and emerging neuroscience field. However, is neural synchronicity a legitimate model to study phase-transition-driven systems? Your link says hypothesis, not theory (one presumes this means not enough evidence to refer to it as theory), and there's nothing in there about phase coherence and QED.
tkadm30 Posted January 4, 2017 Author Posted January 4, 2017 My apologies. Here's an updated link: An important link between oscillations and cortical computations was the discovery of the role of oscillatory rhythms in the beta/gamma range (20–80 Hz) in establishing precise synchronization of distributed neural responses. Gray and colleagues6,7 showed that action potentials generated by cortical cells align with the oscillatory rhythm in the beta and gamma range, which has the consequence that neurons participating in the same oscillatory rhythm synchronize their discharges with very high precision. Thus, it is a central role of cortical oscillations in the beta/gamma range to enable neuronal synchronization.4,5
Strange Posted January 4, 2017 Posted January 4, 2017 My apologies. Here's an updated link: That says nothing, zero, zilch, nada about QED or anything else related to quantum theory. Every post makes it clearer that you don't have a clue and are just doing searches for a few keywords and posting the resulting random links.
tkadm30 Posted January 4, 2017 Author Posted January 4, 2017 That says nothing, zero, zilch, nada about QED or anything else related to quantum theory. I disagree. My impressions is that neural synchronicity is poorly understood. I'm looking for opinions to better understand neural synchronicity and phase coherence in terms of quantum electrodynamics. ...
Strange Posted January 4, 2017 Posted January 4, 2017 I disagree. Then please quote a specific sentence or paragraph from that paper which mentions quantum effects. Because I couldn't find one. (You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.) 1
DrmDoc Posted January 4, 2017 Posted January 4, 2017 This will be my only comment here. You really haven't clarified your use of terms or provided a cogent foundation for this highly theoretical topic. Perhaps these link will help with the latter: Quantum Mind and Quantum Cognition.
StringJunky Posted January 4, 2017 Posted January 4, 2017 This will be my only comment here. You really haven't clarified your use of terms or provided a cogent foundation for this highly theoretical topic. Perhaps these link will help with the latter: Quantum Mind and Quantum Cognition. He's just using those words because he likes the sound of them.
tkadm30 Posted January 4, 2017 Author Posted January 4, 2017 This will be my only comment here. You really haven't clarified your use of terms or provided a cogent foundation for this highly theoretical topic. Perhaps these link will help with the latter: Quantum Mind and Quantum Cognition. Thanks for your reply and links. I have not understood yet how neuronal phase coherence correlates to enhanced cortical computations. I suspect that neuronal synchronicity in the gamma band neuromodulate conscious/subconscious processes.
iNow Posted January 4, 2017 Posted January 4, 2017 I have not understood yet how neuronal phase coherence correlates to enhanced cortical computationsWhat is an enhanced cortical computation? Is it any activity in the prefrontal cortex, something in the singulate gyrus, or just words you're throwing around to try sounding smart? Also, when did you show there is a correlation in the first place? One must first demonstrate the existence of that prior to understanding how it functions. He's just using those words because he likes the sound of them.Agree completely
tkadm30 Posted January 5, 2017 Author Posted January 5, 2017 What is an enhanced cortical computation? Is it any activity in the prefrontal cortex, something in the singulate gyrus, or just words you're throwing around to try sounding smart? Also, when did you show there is a correlation in the first place? One must first demonstrate the existence of that prior to understanding how it functions. I suggest you first complete your education to understand the neurocomputational capacity of the brain. I don't claim to have deep knowledge on things below the threshold of my consciousness. Your emotionality reflects well the state of ignorance you are in when replying with such nonsense. -3
swansont Posted January 5, 2017 Posted January 5, 2017 I disagree. ... I second Strange's call for a response here. I couldn't find any mention of QED. By disagreeing, you are claiming that it's mentioned. Where? The only thing resembling QM here is that you seem to be in a superposition claiming knowledge and ignorance at the same time. 3
tkadm30 Posted January 5, 2017 Author Posted January 5, 2017 I second Strange's call for a response here. I couldn't find any mention of QED. By disagreeing, you are claiming that it's mentioned. Where? The only thing resembling QM here is that you seem to be in a superposition claiming knowledge and ignorance at the same time. Haha, thats a good one... enable neural synchronization i think neural synchronicity and synaptic quantum tunnelling are implicated in the neuromodulation of exocytosis, promoting enhanced cortical computation.(Phase coherence and synchronicity are two sides of the same coin.) -1
swansont Posted January 5, 2017 Posted January 5, 2017 Haha, thats a good one... Everyone has noticed that you still haven't answered the question. i think neural synchronicity and synaptic quantum tunnelling are implicated in the neuromodulation of exocytosis, promoting enhanced cortical computation.(Phase coherence and synchronicity are two sides of the same coin.) But what do these terms, like "cortical computation", mean? You're using them, which implies that you should know. So instead of saying "complete your education", how about you answer the question? 1
tkadm30 Posted January 5, 2017 Author Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Everyone has noticed that you still haven't answered the question. But what do these terms, like "cortical computation", mean? You're using them, which implies that you should know. So instead of saying "complete your education", how about you answer the question? Cortical computation is the capacity to the prefrontal cortex to neuromodulate/fine-tune optimal synaptic connectivity. Edited January 5, 2017 by tkadm30
swansont Posted January 5, 2017 Posted January 5, 2017 Great. (That wasn't so hard, was it?). Now you just have to show us where QED is mentioned as being tied in to all of this. 1
Strange Posted January 5, 2017 Posted January 5, 2017 Haha, thats a good one... i think neural synchronicity and synaptic quantum tunnelling are implicated in the neuromodulation of exocytosis, promoting enhanced cortical computation.(Phase coherence and synchronicity are two sides of the same coin.) So you are not able to quote anywhere in the article that discusses quantum effects. That is what I thought. 1
tkadm30 Posted January 5, 2017 Author Posted January 5, 2017 Great. (That wasn't so hard, was it?). Now you just have to show us where QED is mentioned as being tied in to all of this. The enhanced cortical computation by gamma-band synchronicity is a quantum phase transition of interneuronal activity. (known as "synaptic quantum tunnelling") So you are not able to quote anywhere in the article that discusses quantum effects. That is what I thought. I suppose neuronal phase coherence (synchronicity) is a form of quantum computation by phase-transition-driven exocytosis.
Strange Posted January 5, 2017 Posted January 5, 2017 The enhanced cortical computation by gamma-band synchronicity is a quantum phase transition of interneuronal activity. (known as "synaptic quantum tunnelling") Would it surprise you to know that I don't think that this unsupported assertion counts as evidence in support of your previous unsupported assertion. I suppose neuronal phase coherence (synchronicity) is a form of quantum computation by phase-transition-driven exocytosis. You may suppose it. How about providing some evidence for it? 1
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