EvanF Posted January 4, 2017 Posted January 4, 2017 So does the body age because *Insert biological reason- DNA deterioration, etc"... Or does the body age because of the 'space-time' of the physical universe?
swansont Posted January 4, 2017 Posted January 4, 2017 False dichotomy and a poorly-phrased inquiry. 2
DrmDoc Posted January 4, 2017 Posted January 4, 2017 I agree, human aging isn't an effect of space-time, it's an effect of human biology. 1
EvanF Posted January 4, 2017 Author Posted January 4, 2017 False dichotomy Let me rephrase the question... Is aging an intrinsic built in property of our biology, or is it caused by the properties of the physical universe?...(since "time" is theoretically a property of space.)
rangerx Posted January 4, 2017 Posted January 4, 2017 Is aging an intrinsic built in property of our biology... Apoptosis (from Ancient Greek ἀπόπτωσις "falling off") is a process of programmed cell death that occurs in multicellular organisms. Biochemical events lead to characteristic cell changes (morphology) and death.
Strange Posted January 4, 2017 Posted January 4, 2017 Let me rephrase the question... Is aging an intrinsic built in property of our biology, or is it caused by the properties of the physical universe?...(since "time" is theoretically a property of space.) Both. The fact that biological things age is because they change over time, as is typical for things in this universe.
swansont Posted January 4, 2017 Posted January 4, 2017 Let me rephrase the question... Is aging an intrinsic built in property of our biology, or is it caused by the properties of the physical universe?...(since "time" is theoretically a property of space.) Still a false dichotomy. Anyway, investigate senescence https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senescence
Lord Antares Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 That's an invalid question. It cannot be just due to biological properties because that depends on how much time has passed. Every prolongued process depends on time. It's similar to asking ''does the earth's rotation around the sun depend on time?''. Of course it does.
DrmDoc Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Empirically, definitively, emphatically, human aging is a result of the metabolic processes associated with human biology. Time is not the origin or creator of those processes, it is merely a means by which we measure the perceived progression of those processes. Cellular division and degradation does not emerge from time anymore than the rain or climate events that erode mountains into hills. Time is not causal, it's a subjective measure we initiate at a causal onset. 1
Lord Antares Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 Yes but it degrades by a certain value in a certain amount of time. In 0 seconds, it does not degrade at all. Raise the time limit linearly and it degrades proportionally to the time increased. So the question doesn't really make sense.
DrmDoc Posted January 6, 2017 Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) I agreed; the question is invalid. However, the values we ascribe to time are subjective perspective dependent, which means that time is an invention that is defined by the perspective and observations of an observer. When we remove the metabolic processes proven to produce human aging, time is invalidated as a cause--because without those processes, there is no aging regardless of the length observable time ascribed. Edited January 6, 2017 by DrmDoc
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