fresh Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 we have to face land pollution, food pollution, water pollution, and air pollution. The last one is unavoidable; it is equal to everyone. how do people who live in heavily polluted areas protect themselves? how does it affect their immune system ? Any chance people affected in long run grow any ability to fight it ? How does their immune system respond to it ? Is it possible their immune system could gradually gain the power against it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 we have to face land pollution, food pollution, water pollution, and air pollution. The last one is unavoidable; it is equal to everyone. Pollution (air pollution, especially, since you've singled it out) is not evenly distributed. Air is generally far more polluted in cities and industrial areas than the countryside, and some cities are more polluted than other ones of comparable size. There is a notion that some small amount of stressors to our immune system is good, in that it keeps the immune system engaged. Too much is bad. The question is finding that level. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormesis https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2248601/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cuthber Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Why assume this is the responsibility of the immune system? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresh Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 Why assume this is the responsibility of the immune system? why not ? pollution compromises our immune system. what else ? Pollution (air pollution, especially, since you've singled it out) is not evenly distributed. Air is generally far more polluted in cities and industrial areas than the countryside, and some cities are more polluted than other ones of comparable size. There is a notion that some small amount of stressors to our immune system is good, in that it keeps the immune system engaged. Too much is bad. The question is finding that level. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormesis https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2248601/ it is not small amount of stressors, instead it is big amount of them..... heavily polluted areas, can we survive without damaging health in long run ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 it is not small amount of stressors, instead it is big amount of them..... You should be able to extrapolate the answer from "small amount may be good, large amount is bad" why not ? pollution compromises our immune system. what else ? The people doing the polluting, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresh Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 for indoor use, which one is better ? air purifiers or plants ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Function Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 This just made my day. As far as I'm aware of, photosynthesis can't purify your air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresh Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 This just made my day. As far as I'm aware of, photosynthesis can't purify your air. how about air purifiers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cuthber Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 why not ? pollution compromises our immune system. what else ? Because the role of detoxification is generally ascribed to the liver + kidneys. The immune system's job is to stop things infecting us- pollution isn't infective. Pollution also compromises the reproductive system; do you think it's responsible for dealing with pollutants? What about the visual system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Function Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 how about air purifiers ? Do air purifiers purify air? Gee ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Do air purifiers purify air? Gee ... Things are obvious when you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Function Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Things are obvious when you know. Small sidenote: I know nothing about air purifiers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Small sidenote: I know nothing about air purifiers Then you've lost me because I thought you were being sarcastic. They either filter and/or use charged ions to take the crap out of the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Function Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) Then you've lost me because I thought you were being sarcastic. They either filter and/or use charged ions to take the crap out of the air. Well it was intended to be ironic, but be my guest if it arrived sarcastically - I found it rather obvious that air purifiers would purify air. But I know, I might've been a bit quick in my conclusions. What's in a name after all, dear String ... Charged ions; learned something new. Thanks Edited January 8, 2017 by Function Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) Well it was intended to be ironic, but be my guest if it arrived sarcastically - I found it rather obvious that air purifiers would purify air. But I know, I might've been a bit quick in my conclusions. What's in a name after all, dear String ... Charged ions; learned something new. Thanks Tey hey can also have charged surfaces that attract the air-borne debris to them, Edited January 8, 2017 by StringJunky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresh Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 nobody gives me the suggestions about how to protect ourselves in heavily polluted areas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Function Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 nobody gives me the suggestions about how to protect ourselves in heavily polluted areas... Is this an incognito bump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 nobody gives me the suggestions about how to protect ourselves in heavily polluted areas... You didn't ask for suggestions. Wear a mask. Stay indoors as much as possible. Lobby the government to strengthen air pollution laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) for indoor use, which one is better ? air purifiers or plants ? I had hoped house plants would work. Unfortunately it appears to be a myth so i will have to find another excuse to convince the mrs. to have some. Edited January 10, 2017 by Prometheus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresh Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 What's kind of air purifiers can successfully remove pollutants in air ? common pollutants include : PM2.5 ; PM10; O3; NO2; SO2; CO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Portable air filter for North China smog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresh Posted January 15, 2017 Author Share Posted January 15, 2017 what is the mechanism of this masklike filter ？ sorry i take it with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cuthber Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 what is the mechanism of this masklike filter ？ sorry i take it with a grain of salt. It seems to be a HEPA filter. They strip particulate matter from air. Is there a reason why you take it with a pinch of salt? What's kind of air purifiers can successfully remove pollutants in air ? ... Anything that didn't remove at least some pollutants from air wouldn't be an air purifier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilGeis Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Where are you, Atom? hat are you ambient conditions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fresh Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 @Is there a reason why you take it with a pinch of salt? https://www.amazon.com/hepa-air-purifiers/b?ie=UTF8&node=510192 HEPA Air Purifiers True HEPA Filter captures 99.97% of dust and allergens as small as .3 microns such as household dust, pet dander, mold spores and plant pollens. Charcoal filter reduces common odors from pets, smoking and cooking. UV-C light technology works with Titanium Dioxide to kill airborne bacteria, viruses, germs and mold spores. it doesn't mention SO2,CO,NO2,O3,PM2.5,PM10, if i am not misunderstand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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