Manticore Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 To the tune of Lily Marlene: Underneath your asshole, When you do a dump. Stinking up the toilet, Yes, it's Donald Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) The irony, as a Republican, I can confirm this to be about 65% true, and still side with being a Republican. It's not that we're stupid, it's that we fundamentally disagree on what we want. The problem with democracy is, whoever you vote for, you'll always get the government; the trouble is, that's the best case scenario. Edited May 1, 2017 by dimreepr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider5678 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 The problem with democracy is, whoever you vote for you'll always get the government; the trouble is, that's the best case scenario. Democracy is the worst form of government............except for all the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten oz Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Democracy is the worst form of government............except for all the others. Many people don't like to eat their vegetable either. At lot of what managing govt involves is tough choices. In a perfect world numerous things like police, courts, prisons, and etc would not be needed. In a perfect world no industries would put carcinogens in public water. This is a perfect world though. In my opinion Republican rhetoric basically demands to have things free. Conservates want a strong military, border protection, roads, bridges, tunnels, ports, insurance, clean water, and etc but then don't want to pay any tax. Every lone dollar spent of something Republicans don't like makes them blind to the hundred dollars spent of things which are essential. The below is an example of a multi dimensional problem that the govt is trying to resolve that many people view as overreach & freedom limiting or. I use this example because the economic benefits of roads and bridges is too on the nose. This example is meant to be nuanced and a little out of left field for this conversation. I was reading about the National Park Service (NPS) work to save the California Condor in the Grand Canyon recently. In the early 80's Condors were down to 22 individuals. Lead poisoning was killing them. Condors fly around looking for carcasses of dead animals to eat. Most of the carcasses were left by hunters who had uses lead bullets. iN the 90's the NPS caputured and tagged the remaining and then realeased and monitored them. Leaving lead free carcasses near their nests. Numbers rose to a couple of hundred. Then a few years back groups started pushing for limits on lead ammo. The National Rifle Association (NRA), of course, called it an assualt on freedom or whatever. Places like California were successful in forcing some different martials used for bullets. One of Obama's last acts was to ban lead bullets, not hunting, on wildlife refugees. Today Condor numbers are nearing 500. One of Trump's Interior Sec. first act was to repeal the ban calling it an assualt on gun owners. Lead is a heavier material than copper and the other alternatives. Lead bullets travel further and are more accurate. At what cost? There are long term impacts and at the end of the day the overwhelming majority of hunters are just out there for recreation and not for survival. Trump's only dog in this fight is that NRA members voted for him. http://e360.yale.edu/features/will_lead_in_bullets_finally_kill_off_california_condor https://ww2.kqed.org/science/2017/03/02/trump-administration-revokes-lead-bullet-ban-but-californias-may-hold/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordief Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) Is DT's refusal to engage with facts a reworking of the old propaganda line that a lie repeated often enough will be accepted as a truth? If so does he do this consciously ? He also seems to have presidential immunity from blatantly and explicitly refusing to answer a question when it suits him Edited May 2, 2017 by geordief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koti Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Is DT's refusal to engage with facts a reworking of the old propaganda line that a lie repeated often enough will be accepted as a truth? If so does he do this consciously ? He also seems to have presidential immunity from blatantly and explicitly refusing to answer a question when it suits him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFh5F8jUsoY Since day one of the elections I see a resemblance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGUNPMPrxvA&feature=youtu.be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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