tkadm30 Posted March 12, 2017 Author Posted March 12, 2017 True love is not influenced by our behavior nor our genes you say? What then causes love? Cupido? The source of love is quantum energy independent from biological influence. -1
Bender Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 The source of love is quantum energy independent from biological influence. Not that new-age nonsense again. Have you perhaps watched "What the bleep do we know" or nonsense like that? These guys think their leader is a reincarnation of an Atlantis Warlock, to give you an idea of what kind of people spread such nonsense. Quantum uncertainty in no way explains anything like "consciousness", "free will" or "love". For the sake of how our brain operates, it might as well be completely deterministic, since we have no way to influence how wave functions collapse (if they collapse).
John Cuthber Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 The source of love is quantum energy independent from biological influence. I look forward to you supplying some evidence for why you believe that. In the meantime, it looks like nonsense.
Itoero Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 The source of love is quantum energy independent from biological influence.Independent from biological influence? Seriously? Falling in love is a simple evolutionary trait. Any evidence for the quantum energy?
Strange Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 The source of love is quantum energy independent from biological influence. Citation needed.
tkadm30 Posted March 13, 2017 Author Posted March 13, 2017 Citation needed. Why? We already know the source of true love is independent from our evolutionary/genetic traits. True love is transcending from your mama. It is this relationship in my opinion which is the origin of true love. Learn to sense true love and then you can measure it with objective parameters/variables. -1
Strange Posted March 13, 2017 Posted March 13, 2017 Why? We already know the source of true love is independent from our evolutionary/genetic traits. No we don't. You keep claiming this, but have provided no support. Without that, we can dismiss it, in the same way we can dismiss any assertion made without evidence. We all know the source of love is the farts of invisible pink unicorns.
tkadm30 Posted March 15, 2017 Author Posted March 15, 2017 The source of Love may be regulated by the shared neural activation (resonance) of our limbic system: Limbic resonance is the idea that the capacity for sharing deep emotional states arises from the limbic system of the brain.[1] These states include the dopamine circuit-promoted feelings of empathic harmony, and the norepinephrine circuit-originated emotional states of fear, anxiety and anger.[2] The concept was advanced in the book A General Theory of Love (2000), and is one of three interrelated concepts central to the book's premise: that our brain chemistry and nervous systems are measurably affected by those closest to us (limbic resonance); that our systems synchronize with one another in a way that has profound implications for personality and lifelong emotional health (limbic regulation); and that these set patterns can be modified through therapeutic practice (limbic revision).[3]:170 See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbic_resonance
DrP Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) Even if it is something to do with this limbic system - it is still biological. That quantum garbage is nonsense. QUOTE" We already know...independent from evolutionary traits" - No it isn't - that's what we've been arguing about through the thread. It is rubbish unless you can support it with some evidence - which you can't, because it isn't true.... Just shouting "Oh yes it is!" isn't going to win the argument. Edited March 15, 2017 by DrP
tkadm30 Posted March 15, 2017 Author Posted March 15, 2017 Even if it is something to do with this limbic system - it is still biological. That quantum garbage is nonsense. I believe the so-called "limbic resonance" is correlated with optimal neural synchronicity. Emotional resonance energy (ie: Love/Empathy) is triggered from mirror neurons.
DrP Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 So what? That has nothing to do with quantum physics and it is a mechanical artefact of the evolution of the brain. It is how we work. When we empathise with another, we look at their face, their body language, we see a smile and think 'happy' and feel a slight copy of that emotion - that is empathy. You can say that this is due to mirror neurons, but they fire because of info fed to them from sensory perception from the eyes, ears and nose etc.. . It isn't a mind link between the 2 brains. Frankly to suggest that is just idiotic as we have tested for that stuff for many years and never found a single bit of proof for it. There is nothing that suggests that at all. The only ones that claim mind links, telepathy and the supernatural are these new age morons that like to mix scientific sounding words into their word salads to try to further confuse their mark. Basically - people that pedal such nonsense either know that they are talking crap but just don't care because it makes them money, or they are the fools that believe it and part with their money on so called alternative treatments and books about made up crap. Same with homeopathy peddlers - all of them are either fools or con men. Which camp are you in?
Strange Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 The source of Love may be regulated by the shared neural activation (resonance) of our limbic system: So it IS derived from our genes and evolution. I thought so. I believe the so-called "limbic resonance" is correlated with optimal neural synchronicity. Emotional resonance energy (ie: Love/Empathy) is triggered from mirror neurons. So, biology then. And therefore genes and evolution.
tkadm30 Posted March 15, 2017 Author Posted March 15, 2017 So what? That has nothing to do with quantum physics and it is a mechanical artefact of the evolution of the brain. It is how we work. When we empathise with another, we look at their face, their body language, we see a smile and think 'happy' and feel a slight copy of that emotion - that is empathy. You can say that this is due to mirror neurons, but they fire because of info fed to them from sensory perception from the eyes, ears and nose etc.. . It isn't a mind link between the 2 brains. Frankly to suggest that is just idiotic as we have tested for that stuff for many years and never found a single bit of proof for it. There is nothing that suggests that at all. The only ones that claim mind links, telepathy and the supernatural are these new age morons that like to mix scientific sounding words into their word salads to try to further confuse their mark. Basically - people that pedal such nonsense either know that they are talking crap but just don't care because it makes them money, or they are the fools that believe it and part with their money on so called alternative treatments and books about made up crap. Same with homeopathy peddlers - all of them are either fools or con men. Which camp are you in? I'm not pretending that mirror neurons are the source of Love. The discovery of mirror neurons in human brains is probably critical to quantum biology. You talk like a physicalist who ignores the reality of non-physical mind/matter connections. Quantum biology is a emerging field in quantum mechanics. You better get used to it or quit. You cannot compare QM and Homeopathy. The latter is a pseudoscience while the former is based on General Relativity... Which camp are you in?
Strange Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 The discovery of mirror neurons in human brains is probably critical to quantum biology. Some evidence of that would be nice. You talk like a physicalist who ignores the reality of non-physical mind/matter connections. Some evidence of the non-physical mind would be nice. You cannot compare QM and Homeopathy. The latter is a pseudoscience while the former is based on General Relativity... No one compared them. And QM is not based on general relativity. In fact, one of the big challenges currently is how to combine QM and GR.
tkadm30 Posted March 16, 2017 Author Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) The discovery of mirror neurons in human brains is probably critical to quantum biology. Some evidence of that would be nice. You talk like a physicalist who ignores the reality of non-physical mind/matter connections. Some evidence of the non-physical mind would be nice. 1. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982210003271 2. http://www.manyworldsoflogic.com/mindbody.html Edited March 16, 2017 by tkadm30
swansont Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 I'm not pretending that mirror neurons are the source of Love. The discovery of mirror neurons in human brains is probably critical to quantum biology. You talk like a physicalist who ignores the reality of non-physical mind/matter connections. Quantum biology is a emerging field in quantum mechanics. You better get used to it or quit. You cannot compare QM and Homeopathy. The latter is a pseudoscience while the former is based on General Relativity... Which camp are you in? ! Moderator Note First of all, nothing quantum is based on general relativity, which is a classical theory. Second, and more administratively important, you have been told repeatedly not to post about quantum biology outside of one thread on the subject.
Strange Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 1. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982210003271 Again, as with all your attempts to support this nonsense, that says NOTHING about quantum effects. 2. http://www.manyworldsoflogic.com/mindbody.html That is a discussion of the problem, not EVIDENCE one way or the other.
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