Alan McDougall Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 Gays and the corrupt views of hypocritical TV Evangelists To start I make a statement that God views both heterosexual and homosexuals in exactly the same light. Both are capably of altruism towards their fellow humans and both are capably of the most hideous depravity. I am believer in Jesus Christ, not the mad insanity of the thieving depraved lying hypocrite idiots of the likes of the TV evangelist thieves of the likes of Kenneth Copeland Benny Hinn. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LATTER DAY CHURCH CORRUPTION God has reserved a special place for this kind of person, who uses the precious name of his only begotten n Son, for personal gain, power and wealth, by knowingly lying and milking gullible and vulnerable people out of their hard earned cash Turn on your TV AND look no further and you will see the likes of Kennith Copeland and Benny Hinn billionaires, in action on their hypnotic stages hypnotizing and using Satanic tricks (In glee I think), deceiving people into believing any sort of outrageous rubbish and stealing from the hungry mouths of the gullible and disadvantaged. God sent his one and only son, Jesus into this world to save everyone, not a special group restricted to just to heterosexual people God loves gay people as much as he loves heterosexual people. Jesus came to save all of humanity not according to their sexual identity! Depravity and goodness exists both in heterosexual people as it does in gay people There will be gay people in heaven, because if they turned from their sins and asked Jesus to accept them into his everlasting arms the exact same situation faces heterosexual and homosexual, in Gods Holy Judgement By the way I am a man of 76 years of age man, with four beautiful daughters ten great grandchildren and two beautiful baby great grand children What are your thoughts on the matter of my post ? -3
Itoero Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) To start I make a statement that God views both heterosexual and homosexuals in exactly the same light.Why do you think that? Did you discuss it with God? Edited March 18, 2017 by Itoero
John Cuthber Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 Alan, You and I agree that the "televangelists'" religions are self-serving protection rackets. Can you explain how you can be sure that the same isn't true of all religions?
Strange Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 What are your thoughts on the matter of my post ? That I don't want to hear your preaching. Start a church or a blog. I am believer in Jesus Christ, not the mad insanity of the thieving depraved lying hypocrite idiots of the likes of the TV evangelist thieves of the likes of Kenneth Copeland Benny Hinn. This is a stunning level of hypocrisy (but not too surprising) from someone who thinks all Muslims are the same as ISIS. Why shouldn't I assume that you are exactly like the most retarded, literal, fundamentalist bigots. After all, all Christians are the same, aren't they. I hope your daughters are suitably ashamed of you.
Phi for All Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 I think a god(s) would view extremism poorly. I think a believer in Jesus should be more tolerant. I don't think people who profess to be Christians should be threatening violence. It's extremely intolerant, extremely irrational, and extremely hypocritical.
Moontanman Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 Gays and the corrupt views of hypocritical TV Evangelists To start I make a statement that God views both heterosexual and homosexuals in exactly the same light. Both are capably of altruism towards their fellow humans and both are capably of the most hideous depravity. I am believer in Jesus Christ, not the mad insanity of the thieving depraved lying hypocrite idiots of the likes of the TV evangelist thieves of the likes of Kenneth Copeland Benny Hinn. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LATTER DAY CHURCH CORRUPTION God has reserved a special place for this kind of person, who uses the precious name of his only begotten n Son, for personal gain, power and wealth, by knowingly lying and milking gullible and vulnerable people out of their hard earned cash Turn on your TV AND look no further and you will see the likes of Kennith Copeland and Benny Hinn billionaires, in action on their hypnotic stages hypnotizing and using Satanic tricks (In glee I think), deceiving people into believing any sort of outrageous rubbish and stealing from the hungry mouths of the gullible and disadvantaged. God sent his one and only son, Jesus into this world to save everyone, not a special group restricted to just to heterosexual people God loves gay people as much as he loves heterosexual people. Jesus came to save all of humanity not according to their sexual identity! Depravity and goodness exists both in heterosexual people as it does in gay people There will be gay people in heaven, because if they turned from their sins and asked Jesus to accept them into his everlasting arms the exact same situation faces heterosexual and homosexual, in Gods Holy Judgement By the way I am a man of 76 years of age man, with four beautiful daughters ten great grandchildren and two beautiful baby great grand children What are your thoughts on the matter of my post ? How do you tell the difference between false religions, false prophets, hypocritical churches, hypocritical church leaders, and how do you know which parts of a religion should be ignored and or followed? But most importantly, How do you know there are any gods at all? And how did you decide your god is real? Why is it no longer important to have the fringe on your garments a specific way? Who told you that killing gays was no longer a requirement? Can I boil a calf in it's mothers milk? Why do we no longer take the virgin girls of the enemy as sex slaves and kill everyone else? If I can't make my children behave is it ok to stone them to death at the cities gate? If a group of children make fun of my bald head is it cool for god to send she bears to kill them? If I plant more than one crop in the same row is it still an abomination? Why or why not? SHOW YOUR WORK! 1
seriously disabled Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) I think that I'm a reasonably good person (I never abuse or offend or hurt other people for no reason) so if there is a heaven I think that I will get to see it. I'm also a socialist and I believe in altruism and co-operation and that people should help each other when they are in deep economic crisis or need. If God is really good and merciful then why would he prevent me from getting into heaven? Edited March 22, 2017 by seriously disabled
Itoero Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 Jesus died for our sins, so why is there still hell?
dimreepr Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 How do you tell the difference between false religions, false prophets, hypocritical churches, hypocritical church leaders, and how do you know which parts of a religion should be ignored and or followed? It's rather easy to tell the difference: They value money over contentment. They value revenge over forgiveness. They value fear over acceptance. They value themselves over others. I think that I'm a reasonably good person (I never abuse or offend or hurt other people for no reason) so if there is a heaven I think that I will get to see it. I'm also a socialist and I believe in altruism and co-operation and that people should help each other when they are in deep economic crisis or need. If God is really good and merciful then why would he prevent me from getting into heaven? Whats the point of heaven if we have to die to get there? We don't need 'a god' to find peace (heaven) we just need to understand what inner-peace (heaven) is. Inner-peace is the ability to live without fear or anger or expectation, to be content with now, whatever emotion or situation, accepting that it too will pass and hopefully lead to a better one. In the words of Lewis Black "Christians, stop reading the old testament, it's not your book arsehole."
Moontanman Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 Gays and the corrupt views of hypocritical TV Evangelists To start I make a statement that God views both heterosexual and homosexuals in exactly the same light. Both are capably of altruism towards their fellow humans and both are capably of the most hideous depravity. I am believer in Jesus Christ, not the mad insanity of the thieving depraved lying hypocrite idiots of the likes of the TV evangelist thieves of the likes of Kenneth Copeland Benny Hinn. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LATTER DAY CHURCH CORRUPTION God has reserved a special place for this kind of person, who uses the precious name of his only begotten n Son, for personal gain, power and wealth, by knowingly lying and milking gullible and vulnerable people out of their hard earned cash Turn on your TV AND look no further and you will see the likes of Kennith Copeland and Benny Hinn billionaires, in action on their hypnotic stages hypnotizing and using Satanic tricks (In glee I think), deceiving people into believing any sort of outrageous rubbish and stealing from the hungry mouths of the gullible and disadvantaged. God sent his one and only son, Jesus into this world to save everyone, not a special group restricted to just to heterosexual people God loves gay people as much as he loves heterosexual people. Jesus came to save all of humanity not according to their sexual identity! Depravity and goodness exists both in heterosexual people as it does in gay people There will be gay people in heaven, because if they turned from their sins and asked Jesus to accept them into his everlasting arms the exact same situation faces heterosexual and homosexual, in Gods Holy Judgement By the way I am a man of 76 years of age man, with four beautiful daughters ten great grandchildren and two beautiful baby great grand children What are your thoughts on the matter of my post ? Yes! God ignores everyone equally.. It's rather easy to tell the difference: They value money over contentment. They value revenge over forgiveness. They value fear over acceptance. They value themselves over others. Whats the point of heaven if we have to die to get there? We don't need 'a god' to find peace (heaven) we just need to understand what inner-peace (heaven) is. Inner-peace is the ability to live without fear or anger or expectation, to be content with now, whatever emotion or situation, accepting that it too will pass and hopefully lead to a better one. In the words of Lewis Black "Christians, stop reading the old testament, it's not your book arsehole." You ignored most of my questions and you didn't show your work..
DrKrettin Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 You ignored most of my questions and you didn't show your work.. I think the OP is banned, not that he would bother to answer anyway.
dimreepr Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 You ignored most of my questions I answered all your questions. and you didn't show your work.. Did you? 1
Strange Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 In the words of Lewis Black "Christians, stop reading the old testament, it's not your book arsehole." I thought it was The Word of God?
DrKrettin Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 I thought it was The Word of God? The God of the Jews, not Christians.
Strange Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 The God of the Jews, not Christians. Are they related?
John Cuthber Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 The God of the Jews, not Christians. Which one created the universe? Also, re" In the words of Lewis Black "Christians, stop reading the old testament, it's not your book arsehole.""It seems Christ missed the email telling him that. The Gospel truth is that Christ said that the old (Testament) laws still hold. "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Matthew 5 18
Moontanman Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 I answered all your questions. Did you? No, you didn't answer anything, you simply made bald assertions..
dimreepr Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 Which one created the universe? Also, re" In the words of Lewis Black "Christians, stop reading the old testament, it's not your book arsehole.""It seems Christ missed the email telling him that. The Gospel truth is that Christ said that the old (Testament) laws still hold. "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Matthew 5 18 How do you tell the difference between false religions, false prophets, hypocritical churches, hypocritical church leaders, and how do you know which parts of a religion should be ignored and or followed? But most importantly, How do you know there are any gods at all? And how did you decide your god is real? Why is it no longer important to have the fringe on your garments a specific way? Who told you that killing gays was no longer a requirement? Can I boil a calf in it's mothers milk? Why do we no longer take the virgin girls of the enemy as sex slaves and kill everyone else? If I can't make my children behave is it ok to stone them to death at the cities gate? If a group of children make fun of my bald head is it cool for god to send she bears to kill them? If I plant more than one crop in the same row is it still an abomination? Why or why not? SHOW YOUR WORK! And round we go again . I DON'T believe there's a god; I DO believe the bible to contains wisdom that seems to elude secularism. So god wrote nothing, ordered nothing, changed nothing, answered nothing etc... people did, which means the bible, was never intended to be taken literally, it's a collection of stories and parables designed to teach other people how to be content; heaven/hell god/devil karma etc are all just teaching aids and incentives to help people relax and just enjoy life for what it is, right now, not then. Is that really so hard to understand?
John Cuthber Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 I DO believe the bible to contains wisdom that seems to elude secularism. ... the bible, was never intended to be taken literally,... ...it's a collection of stories and parables designed to teach other people how to be content; heaven/hell god/devil karma etc are all just teaching aids and incentives to help people relax and just enjoy life for what it is... Really, Since I'm pretty solidly secular in my beliefs that implies that there's wisdom in the Bible which is lost on me. Please provide an example. Re "was never intended to be taken literally" Says who? ".it's a collection of stories and parables designed to teach other people how to be content" Specifically, it does this by telling you where to get your slaves and to kill children for disobedience. Have you read it?
dimreepr Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 Really, Since I'm pretty solidly secular in my beliefs that implies that there's wisdom in the Bible which is lost on me. Please provide an example. You seem to have provided that for me: Re "was never intended to be taken literally" Says who? ".it's a collection of stories and parables designed to teach other people how to be content" Specifically, it does this by telling you where to get your slaves and to kill children for disobedience. Ye the OT god was kind of an arsehole (nasty piece of shit), he got better when he had his kid (kind, loving, forgiving and peaceful). Have you read it? Yep, did you? Re "was never intended to be taken literally" Says who? Clearly not god... -2
John Cuthber Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 You seem to have provided that for me: Would you like to try again with less self-serving dross?
dimreepr Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 Would you like to try again with less self-serving dross? What makes you think you're wise?
John Cuthber Posted March 23, 2017 Posted March 23, 2017 What makes you think you're wise? I never said I was. I asked you for a specific example of things that the Bible might teach me. Thus far you have evaded any sensible answer. Is it because I have pointed out that you are wrong in your belief viz "I DO believe the bible to contains wisdom that seems to elude secularism."?
Raider5678 Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 Gays and the corrupt views of hypocritical TV Evangelists To start I make a statement that God views both heterosexual and homosexuals in exactly the same light. Both are capably of altruism towards their fellow humans and both are capably of the most hideous depravity. I am believer in Jesus Christ, not the mad insanity of the thieving depraved lying hypocrite idiots of the likes of the TV evangelist thieves of the likes of Kenneth Copeland Benny Hinn. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LATTER DAY CHURCH CORRUPTION God has reserved a special place for this kind of person, who uses the precious name of his only begotten n Son, for personal gain, power and wealth, by knowingly lying and milking gullible and vulnerable people out of their hard earned cash Turn on your TV AND look no further and you will see the likes of Kennith Copeland and Benny Hinn billionaires, in action on their hypnotic stages hypnotizing and using Satanic tricks (In glee I think), deceiving people into believing any sort of outrageous rubbish and stealing from the hungry mouths of the gullible and disadvantaged. God sent his one and only son, Jesus into this world to save everyone, not a special group restricted to just to heterosexual people God loves gay people as much as he loves heterosexual people. Jesus came to save all of humanity not according to their sexual identity! Depravity and goodness exists both in heterosexual people as it does in gay people There will be gay people in heaven, because if they turned from their sins and asked Jesus to accept them into his everlasting arms the exact same situation faces heterosexual and homosexual, in Gods Holy Judgement By the way I am a man of 76 years of age man, with four beautiful daughters ten great grandchildren and two beautiful baby great grand children What are your thoughts on the matter of my post ? But since homosexuality is a sin, how can they repent and still practice it without still being in sin?
dimreepr Posted March 24, 2017 Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) I never said I was. I asked you for a specific example of things that the Bible might teach me. Thus far you have evaded any sensible answer. Is it because I have pointed out that you are wrong in your belief viz "I DO believe the bible to contains wisdom that seems to elude secularism."? No, it's because I had one too many pint's of scrumpy . It's also because I've already answered your question, in post #18; the bible is designed to teach contentment, the sermon on the mount is a synopsis of the NT (if not contentment, then what?). it's a collection of stories and parables designed to teach other people how to be content; heaven/hell god/devil karma etc are all just teaching aids and incentives to help people relax and just enjoy life for what it is, right now, not then. Edited March 24, 2017 by dimreepr
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