lepidoptera Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 Okay, think about it. Atoms cannot really be spherical, can they? I mean, what, after all, is a curved line, but a series of straight lines. You cannot create a curved line without first creating a square. So atoms either are squares, or made up of squares. I'm going to go with that they are made up of squares. So, what are these squares that create the atom? Take away a square and what happens? I don't know, I've just been thinking about that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 ignoring the "are they squares" part, if you took part of an atom away, depending on which part, you`de ether make another chemical element or an Isotope of it`s current element, unless it was Hydrogen of course (there`s not a hell of alot to take away then). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 what, after all, is a curved line, but a series of straight lines. You cannot create a curved line without first creating a square. no, a curve is an infinite amount of zero dimensional points. oddly enough, atoms are supposed to be made of zero dimensional points. quarks(particles that make up protons and neutrons) and electrons are point particles and they make up the atoms. So atoms either are squares, or made up of squares. I'm going to go with that they are made up of squares. So, what are these squares that create the atom? Take away a square and what happens? I don't know, I've just been thinking about that... if you take a proton away, you get a different element. if you take a neutron, you get an isotope of the element which you started with. take away an electron and you get an ion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 You cannot create a curved line without first creating a square.Validate this for me, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommio Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 yeah, i don't know where that came from. I know you can create a 'curved' line using to perpendicular lines ( number x axis 0 - n and the y axis n - 0, then just join the corrospond numbers with a straight line, do enough and you get a curve - sort of) Anyway, the protons and neutrons of an atom are not evenly distributed, therefore neither are the quarks and altermatly neither are the forces these exert. How ever if a quarks does not have a dimension therefore the force they exert comes from a piont, and in a 3d world a piont force will be the centre of the 1/r^2 rule, therfore any electron that 'orbits' the point force will travel in a circurlar motion, if unaffected by external forces. However if the neutrons/protons do have a size and therefore the forces are ununiform then the motion would be eliptical, but still in a strange spherical based shape. As for a square template - it would have to be a cube, with no mass and no observed affect. I don't think it could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctc7752 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Look around you. Everything is round or an adaptation of something being round. So atoms are round! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarisse Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Look around you. Everything is round or an adaptation of something being round. So atoms are round! hmm how empirical... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pastadude Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 interestiong choice of words. how do you take away a square 2-d)? furthermore how can you determine the shape of an object that you can't look at through an optical microscope or one that has a constant motion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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