Function Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Hello everyone I basically get the hang of MRI, but I'm left with one small - not all too important - question: Although protons do not genuinly spin, creating their own cute little magnetic dipole, let's consider they do, for simplicity. Does the right-hand rule apply to protons? Or electrons? As in: consider a proton spinning in the plane of your computer screen, in a counterclockwise sense. Does the magnetic dipole inducted by its spin point out of your screen? Or inwards? Is the contrary true for electrons? (Not important in MRI, but just curious; physics is a great while ago) Thanks. Function Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imatfaal Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 I think - and this is very much guesswork - that quantum spin precession in a magnetic field follows exactly the same shape and direction path as would be expected by a classical spin precession in a magnetic field; thus nomenclature is the same. If you think about it, the direction of angular momentum vector is somewhat arbitrary - ie why we have a rule; it would strike me as strange that intrinsic angular momentum was classified differently. But, and it is a very big But, my answer is assumption rather than knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 (edited) Yes your correct the particle spin does follow the left hand/right rules Edited May 5, 2017 by Mordred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Function Posted May 5, 2017 Author Share Posted May 5, 2017 Yes your correct the particle spin does follow the left hand/right rules So the unity charge of the particle doesn't matter (+ or -), as long as it's charged? It's just for a figure in my thesis; I should know whether a counterclockwise spinning proton would have its magnetic field vector point inwards or outwards ... Conventionally seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 (edited) For a thesis paper you want to apply Pati-Salam. Recall the only difference between a particle/antiparticle pair is charge. The left hand right hand rules are incoroerated into your Pati-Salam symmetry groups. Which follows chirality and helicity as applied to spin. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chirality_(physics) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicity_(particle_physics) Pati-Salam incorporates these two aspects under SO (10). edit ignore chiral theory where its theorized a difference between the left/right hand. For the purpose of this thread its off topic. The general rules and formulas still applies. Your proton spin magnetic dipole moment formulas can be found here. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_magnetic_moment Edited May 5, 2017 by Mordred 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Function Posted May 5, 2017 Author Share Posted May 5, 2017 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Your welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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