iNow Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 On 12/17/2017 at 8:00 PM, interested said: Moron is a big improvement on being an idiot. Expand It is also a far cry from how we should be referring to the President of the United States 1
interested Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 On 12/17/2017 at 9:26 PM, iNow said: It is also a far cry from how we should be referring to the President of the United States Expand I am not a shrink, but did note that a number of American shrinks are stating publicly that Donald Trump is not altogether a balanced individual or suitable for office. He appears to have malignant narcissism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malignant_narcissism and a series of other mental issues that are not deemed good in a political leader of any country. I guess he and his supporters may consider being called a moron a complement compared with what some professional shrinks are saying about him.
Ten oz Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/19/2017 at 9:29 PM, interested said: I am not a shrink, but did note that a number of American shrinks are stating publicly that Donald Trump is not altogether a balanced individual or suitable for office. He appears to have malignant narcissism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malignant_narcissism and a series of other mental issues that are not deemed good in a political leader of any country. I guess he and his supporters may consider being called a moron a complement compared with what some professional shrinks are saying about him. Expand Trump supporters are just happy their side won. They don't really care what type of leader Trump is.
Janus Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 10:42 AM, Ten oz said: Trump supporters are just happy their side won. They don't really care what type of leader Trump is. Expand This is a huge problem in the US right now. Too many people treat their political affiliation in the same way as rooting for their favorite sports team. As long as their "team" wins, it doesn't matter how. Ref misses a call against the other team and you were "robbed". Ref misses a call that would have went against your team and its "Hey, that's just the breaks of the game". If something is to their teams advantage, they don't care if it is bad for the sport in general. Even political dialog ends up being more like the "trash talk" in sports. And while some of this happens on both sides, this type of attitude does seem to be more prevalent from the Trump side of the fence.
Ten oz Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 5:53 PM, Janus said: And while some of this happens on both sides, this type of attitude does seem to be more prevalent from the Trump side of the fence. Expand Many people claim both sides do it to come across as fair or more pragmatic. By definition blaming bothsides is neither fair (by rules & standards) or Pragmatic (sensible & realistic). Anyone who has followed politics for more than a few years and is capable of being honest understands that the current state of this divisive political climate is coming for just one side; not both. Sadly it isn't just internal partisanship either. Today our (U.S.) ambassador threaten other sovereign nations at the U.N. ahead of a vote saying that we (USA) will be taking names of those who vote in a manner we disagree with. It is discussing behavior I am deeply saddened and embarrassed by. This isn't the Dunning-Kruger effect either. It is uninhibited selfishness where everyone suffer equally so that a lonesome don't have to be miserable alone.
rangerx Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 There's something seriously brain dead about the leadership of a country that redistributes money to the rich and takes away health care, then throws a party in the White House.
Raider5678 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 5:53 PM, Janus said: This is a huge problem in the US right now. Too many people treat their political affiliation in the same way as rooting for their favorite sports team. As long as their "team" wins, it doesn't matter how. Ref misses a call against the other team and you were "robbed". Ref misses a call that would have went against your team and its "Hey, that's just the breaks of the game". If something is to their teams advantage, they don't care if it is bad for the sport in general. Even political dialog ends up being more like the "trash talk" in sports. And while some of this happens on both sides, this type of attitude does seem to be more prevalent from the Trump side of the fence. Expand Additionally, the political parties would rather see the other political party win then an independent.
Raider5678 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 7:09 PM, rangerx said: There's something seriously brain dead about the leadership of a country that redistributes money to the rich and takes away health care, then throws a party in the White House. Expand There is another thread called "How does Trump annoy you?" I believe replies like this are better suited for that. On 12/20/2017 at 7:11 PM, rangerx said: America has sold out. Expand There is a saying that given enough time, a democracy will sell it's right's to the highest bidder. On 12/20/2017 at 10:42 AM, Ten oz said: Trump supporters are just happy their side won. They don't really care what type of leader Trump is. Expand Actually, many of the people that originally supported Trump no longer support him. Leading me to believe that in all actuality you don't really look into what the other side believes, only that you know they won.
rangerx Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 7:12 PM, Raider5678 said: There is another thread called "How does Trump annoy you?" I believe replies like this are better suited for that. Expand You are not the boss of me.
Raider5678 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 7:17 PM, rangerx said: You are not the boss of me. Expand I did not order you, nor did I tell you, to go post in another thread. I said I believed posts relating to the topic of simply complaining, without actually offering relevant facts for discussion, are better suited for the thread "How does Trump annoy you?"
rangerx Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 7:20 PM, Raider5678 said: I did not order you, nor did I tell you, to go post in another thread. I said I believed posts relating to the topic of simply complaining, without actually offering relevant facts for discussion, are better suited for the thread "How does Trump annoy you?" Expand I don't care what you believe. This a science forum. Don't expect anyone to follow your belief system as qualification to participate in this thread. -1
Raider5678 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 7:28 PM, rangerx said: I don't care what you believe. This a science forum. Don't expect anyone to follow your belief system as qualification to participate in this thread. Expand Science is based on evidence, not opinions. Please provide evidence that the leadership in our country is brain dead since you insist on it being scientific. As such, I have conflicting evidence including videos of the President of the United States walking around and talking, leading me to believe he is not brain dead. Additionally, several members of Congress have also recently been seen participating in activities ranging from talking, walking, breathing, driving, and, intelligent political debate. -1
rangerx Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 I said your leadership is brain dead. On 12/20/2017 at 7:31 PM, Raider5678 said: As such, I have conflicting evidence including videos of the President of the United States walking around and talking, leading me to believe he is not brain dead. Additionally, several members of Congress have also recently been seen participating in activities ranging from talking, walking, breathing, driving, and, intelligent political debate. Expand
Raider5678 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 7:34 PM, rangerx said: I said your leadership is brain dead. Expand Does the President of the United States, Congress, and the Senate, not count as the leadership of the United States? If not, who does? Once again, I believe complaints lacking in facts, nor relevant to the discussion, are better suited for the thread "How does Trump annoy you?"
rangerx Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 7:41 PM, Raider5678 said: Does the President of the United States, Congress, and the Senate, not count as the leadership of the United States? If not, who does? Once again, I believe complaints lacking in facts, nor relevant to the discussion, are better suited for the thread "How does Trump annoy you?" Expand Leadership is an entity, not a person. Your spin fails. And yet again, you are not the boss of me.
Raider5678 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 7:43 PM, rangerx said: Leadership is an entity, not a person. Your spin fails. And yet again, you are not the boss of me. Expand Alright. You may have your name calling session so you can get all your rage out. -1
rangerx Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 7:45 PM, Raider5678 said: Alright. You may have your name calling session so you can get all your rage out. Expand Yet more spin. Fail.
Raider5678 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 7:50 PM, rangerx said: Yet more spin. Fail. Expand Any relevant discussion? -1
rangerx Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 7:50 PM, Raider5678 said: Any relevant discussion? Expand I stated my opinion, relative to the topic. You have every right to dismiss it, but none to deny me from expressing it. So I will reiterate. Giving the lion's share to the rich, taking away health care then throwing a party to celebrate is brain dead leadership.
Raider5678 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 8:03 PM, rangerx said: Giving the lion's share to the rich, taking away health care then throwing a party to celebrate is brain dead leadership. Expand 1 Proof? Links?
Ten oz Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 7:12 PM, Raider5678 said: Actually, many of the people that originally supported Trump no longer support him. Expand Define "many". His base appears to be holding solid in polling. If you go to Real Clear Politics which average all polls Trump's approval has been 38% +/-2 since the last fall.
rangerx Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 8:04 PM, Raider5678 said: Proof? Links? Expand Pfft. -1
Raider5678 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 8:06 PM, Ten oz said: Define "many". His base appears to be holding solid in polling. If you go to Real Clear Politics which average all polls Trump's approval has been 38% +/-2 since the last fall. Expand Yeah, but those same polls have George Bush at 88%. I mean, maybe I'm wrong but I thought a lot of people disliked George Bush?
Ten oz Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 8:11 PM, Raider5678 said: Yeah, but those same polls have George Bush at 88%. I mean, maybe I'm wrong but I thought a lot of people disliked George Bush? Expand Post 9/11 people rallied around the President. Bush had overwhelming support for about a year.
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